there are some topics within the book that I found absolutely fascinating and especially when you were talking about Dr asger um which is something that I know that Jordan and I would really love to touch on um so if you could for our listeners that maybe haven't read the book would you be able to paint a picture of the man because from my understanding of looking at him there is a lot of misconception and misunderstanding as to who he was and what his motives with understanding autistic people were well sure um you know that's probably the the naughtiest question that we could begin with but I will I I'll go right to it um Hans asper worked at a clinic uh in uh in Vienna uh before World War II that was a very Progressive and inclusive uh place for nerd Divergent people it was basically a place of Last Resort