Billie Eilish on Growing Up with Her Fans & Exclusive Clip: Making Birds of a Feather with FINNEAS

our first guest tonight is a 22-year-old singer and songwriter who in her Spare Time collects Grammy and Academy Awards this is her latest album is called Hit me hard and soft and the Hit me hard and soft World Tour starts September 29th in Quebec please welcome Billy ish [Applause] well thanks for being here it's good to see you me too how's it how was your summer how did you did you do anything fun this summer I just did Summer stuff all summer summer stuff at home or summer stuff out on the road on at home at home yeah because you're going out on the road yeah and why would you for a long time right yes well I have it's in chunk so I have like few weeks on few weeks off oh that's nice that's nice keep myself you know sane cuz it's a yearlong tour and I think people because I talked to a lot of musicians a lot of bands about like being away from home for a long time and some of them are just like I just some I need to open the mail I know well that's the thing I I really don't the thing is I don't ever want to not enjoy it and I love tour so much and the mail or the tour the mail the mail yeah but so I I I just don't want to ever resent it and I feel like if you go for too long long you start hating yourself how' you get so smart at 22 years old I mean I really feel like you had it figured out the first time I met you all the talk shows in the is that what it is it helps you think it through being was I really stupid the first time the first time no you weren't you were never stupid at all I was a like no there was one thing but it was not stupid it's just you're young you're young it was more that I was kind of playing up though like I'm little stupid little kid oh you were little interesting and now you got glass and now you're really yeah they yeah your new album uh went platinum today did you know that yeah I was holding it last night and suddenly it felt much heavier now in the olden times we would um they what they would do was they they'd spray paint the album Platinum and they put it in a plaque and then they they put it up on the wall and you'd have a platinum album on the wall did they do that anymore I don't know we should do it well if you don't have one then they don't do it I don't think I don't I I I think that sounds more fun to me call the record company and demand it in fact I'm sure they're working on it right now okay and also this album and another thing that I just notice actually is it used to be two sides to the album now it's just this is the album this is the whole deal right here right that was a choice CU I wanted to it's a it's short it's pretty short like it's not too many songs the songs themselves are pretty long but it's only 10 songs if there was we actually specifically had to be under like 44 minutes total um you did why yeah because I wanted it to be done as fast as possible so if it was under 44 minutes it could be one side and then it could be done in three months what's on the other side nothing there's no other side so wait is bald on the other side no when there's two sides it's all glued together you don't even know this when there's two sides it's two vinyls Jimmy no when it's yeah yeah yeah come on I was a dish jockey for a long time the vinal has two sides but it's just those songs okay oh so you still have two sides there's two sides but usually it's too vinyl I think they tricked you is what happened try to get the album shoter I do like though that you still make albums because I think a lot of artists are like I'm just going to release single after single as I make them right is that important to you to have albums very important I'm there's nothing wrong with any of that stuff but I've always been such an album lover and I really love when something feels like one piece and is cohesive and is thought through and you know like specifically with this album A lot of it it's so th thought through like even the you know the set list and all the songs and the Order of them and where they sit is like extreme we really worked hard on it and do you when you are arranging the set list how do you approach that exactly it really it's like a long process I'll write down all the names and then I'll like tear them up and then I'll move them and then move them and then change them around and then take some out and put them back in to make sure that it feels right and then I'll listen to them back to back and then sometimes they'll sound wrong and I'll move them it's all about like Dynamics and like the flow the flow of it and also then once we choose it it's making all of the songs kind of go into themselves so they all flow like you know the White Album by The Beatles is one of my favorites in the world and something I love so much about it is it's cohesive it's like right e it's like every song goes into the next song and that there's just not much of that anymore I feel like it's like single single single single single you're right and I like that you think about that do you go on like Spotify or whatever the platform is and see how many listens each song has and then Wonder like which one is your favorite of the songs on this album my favorite um you got skinny you got lunch got blind so I can't see chiro birds of a feather Wildflower the greatest Lam more Dei the diner Bittersweet and blue um did I pronounce poorly well you know somebody asked me if they're if it's like all like a they're all in a horse race and one of them like they're like trying to get to first place in my head and it's it's it's almost as if it was like a horse race but all the horses were really happy to be running and also there was and none of them cared about being first you know what these do sound like horse race horse games they totally do but I just mean that like I love them all so much I mean this is the my favorite thing I've ever made and I feel so proud of it and like yeah I have you know the greatest is something I I love so much Shiro I love but again even when I say the the songs that I like a lot like I love them all so much and I'm not trying to you I love them all so much I listen I believe you why wouldn't you love them why you probably wouldn't have put them on the album if you didn't right I mean it's got to be weird AR it's like yeah I'm going to I love eight of them and then the other seven are garbage yeah um you also seem to love your fans in fact we have a video that one of your fans posted I know it sounds silly to say you love your fans because everybody claims they love their fans but most artists don't like their fans at all yeah and um but here's a video from when you left our show last time [Music] how are [Applause] you so good oh my God wait how you doing I'm good how are you I'm good it's been a minute December December DEC I just went to London for you when I was at mom was like so you recognize these women now and like know them yeah you do yeah well what's been so cool is that like all of these fans all of my my little family um have been like we've been growing up at the same time and so you know so many kids espe especially in La just cuz I'm from here and I'm around and stuff like when I was first starting out there would be like certain kids that I would see at everything I would do and we were all the same age and so they would come to stuff and I would see them like multiple times a year and then not for a couple years and then I'd see them again and like over the years I've seen the same faces multiple times and like there's some in here there's some outside like I recognize them obviously they I'm like person with eyes and it's so special like it feels like seeing you know my old friend again this is what happens when I leave the the show let me see oh my God we love you Jimmy oh this is why I'm not beloved Billy ish is here we'll be right back back with Billy ish The Hit me hard and soft World Tour starts uh in Quebec why Quebec um on September 29th why there cuz it's awesome there okay it is awesome there it's like an underrated spot yeah yeah I have no choice in where the tour starts but oh but I love I love Canada you love Canada all right well yeah Canada's good you um you brought us a clip of your brother Phineas and who's your songwriting partner and brothers well obviously working on this is can you want to explain what we're about to see because no one's seen this before yeah um so this is a video that I took on my phone in um the back of the SUV in Brazil um on the way to doing a show in Brazil a year and a half ago and this is a thing I mean this is like a very Norm Al thing for me and fine is that we we're always finding ourselves working in the most kind of random places I mean we talked about it all the time but like you know not no time to die for James Bond was like we recorded that in the tour bus in the bunk in the dark like we're always and you know we've recorded in like little hotels in El Paso it's nothing like that cool but it's fun cuz it's so casual and normal and we were just in the back of this car and it's phineas's laptop and like yeah well let's take a [Music] look so you just leaving [Music] like so there's an and that's like missing so it's annoying it's even [Applause] better then I think maybe on that the computer dies maybe just me oh [Music] no power failure so that's lost yeah so that was birds of a feather which we worked on I mean we obviously worked on the whole album for a long period of time and but that song just never felt right and we kept working on it and adding things to it and taking things away and there's so many different versions and what's funny or not funny but interesting and kind of special about that video to me is that it's such a old version of the song that I don't really even remember and it sounds so different and it's just really amazing to see how far the song's come do you ever go back and listen to an old version and go oh I like the old version better it's almost always horribly terrible it is yeah yeah I I have the old version of birds of feather it's absolute poo so no is the answer then huh yeah yeah no yeah well that's good you don't want to live like that for sure no I don't yeah all right well and you I know do you do you draw I've seen videos of you online drawing yeah do you design your do you have any hand in designing what your like set looks like on on tour on a tour like this um I haven't I don't draw stuff for it but I should start um but I work with a company called moment Factory that I've been working with since I was like 16 or so 17 I'm not sure and they are amazing they pitch you ideas it's like a whole thing it's like it's almost like making an album in a way it's like feels like I'm making an album with them and we're making a stage and visuals and it's a super collaborative process and I'm ridiculously involved in a way that I wish that I could just not be but I'm I love it though so when you guys are in like the back seat working on the album they're in the seat behind you working on what it might yeah yeah pretty much yeah well it's great to have you here thanks for coming uh the world tour starts September 29th The Hit me hard and soft tour and this is the album hit me hard and soft Billy is everybody we'll be back with Adam kinger [Applause]