‘Nobody in this country’s undecided about Donald Trump’: Where the campaigns go post-debate

>>> KRISTEN WELKER IN WASHINGTON. >>> THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER DEBATE AFTER A HISTORIC FACE OFF THAT LEFT JUMP ALLIES UNDERWHELMED AND HARRIS. THE PRESIDENT AND THE VICE PRESIDENT. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS APPEARED TO ACCOMPLISH HER GOAL OF GETTING UNDER HER RIVALS SKIN EARLY AND OFTEN. >> WHAT YOU WILL ALSO NOTICE IS THAT PEOPLE START LEAVING HIS RALLIES EARLY AND OFTEN. PEOPLE GET BORED. >> PEOPLE THAT DO GO, SHE IS PAYING THEM TO BE THERE. >> HAS NO PLAN FOR YOU BECAUSE HE IS MORE INTERESTED IN DEFENDING HIMSELF THAN HE IS LOOKING OUT FOR YOU. >> I WENT TO THE WHARTON SCHOOL OF FINANCE. MANY OF THE TOP PROFESSORS THINK THAT MY PLAN IS A BRILLIANT PLAN. WE HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HE'S ALIVE. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMIND THE EX-PRESIDENT THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AGAINST ME. CLEARLY HE IS HAVING A VERY DIFFICULT TIME PROCESSING THAT. >> HE DELIVERED STRONG MOMENTS. THE POSTDEBATE REACTION FROM HIS ALLIES AND THE CANDIDATES DECISION TO APPEAR IN THE SPIN ROOM MADE IT CLEAR HE STRUGGLED BECAUSE HE REPEATED A NUMBER OF CONSPIRACIES. HE KEPT TURNING HIS ANSWERS TO EMIGRATION. HIS FOCUS WAS OVERSHADOWED BY RACIST CLAIMS OF IMMIGRANTS IN OHIO. >> THEY ARE EATING THE DOGS. THEY ARE EATING THE CATS. THEY ARE EATING THE PATS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR COUNTRY. PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT MY DOG WAS TAKEN AND USED FOR FOOD. >> I'M NOT TAKING THIS FROM TELEVISION. I AM TAKING IT FROM THE CITY MANAGER. HE SAYS THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, I WILL LET YOU RESPOND. >> TALK ABOUT EXTREME. >> MR. TRUMP DOUBLE DOWN ON FALSE CLAIMS THAT HE WON THE 2020 ELECTION. HE DID NOT. >> ARE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU LOST IN 2020? >> I SAID THAT SARCASTICALLY. THERE IS SO MUCH FRUIT. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT IT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE SENT IT BACK TO THE LEGISLATOR FOR APPROVAL. THE MOST VOTES IN A SITTING PRESIDENT HAS EVER GOT. PEOPLE SHOULD NEVER THINK ABOUT AN ELECTION AS FRAUDULENT. >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, WHILE DODGING KEY QUESTIONS ABOUT POLICY AND TIES TO BIDEN, FOCUSED ON ONE OF HER STRONGEST ISSUES, ABORTION. BACK AND FORTH, THE FORMER PRESIDENT CONTRADICT THE WHAT HIS RUNNING MATE SAID A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT HE WOULD VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN. >> DONALD TRUMP CERTAINLY SHOULD NOT TELL A WOMAN WHAT TO DO WITH HER BODY. YOU WANT TO TALK -- THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WANTED? PREGNANT WOMEN WHO WANT TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM, SUFFERING FROM A MISCARRIAGE. BEING DENIED CARE IN AN EMERGENCY ROOM BECAUSE HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS ARE AFRAID THEY MIGHT GO TO JAIL. SHE'S BLEEDING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT. SHE DID NOT WANT THAT. HER HUSBAND DID NOT WANT THAT. A 12 OR 13-YEAR-OLD SURVIVOR OF INCEST BEING FORCED TO CARRY A PREGNANCY TO TERM? THEY DON'T WANT THAT. >> I DID SOMETHING THAT NOBODY THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE. THE STATES ARE NOW VOTING. WHAT SHE SAYS IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE. AS FAR AS THE ABORTION BAN, NO, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE ISSUE HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE STATES. >> WOULD YOU VETO A NATIONAL ABORTION BAN? >> I DON'T HAVE TO BE >> JD VANCE SAID THAT YOU WOULD IF IT CAME TO YOUR DESK. >> I DID NOT DISCUSS THAT WITH HIM IN ALL FAIRNESS. >>> THE FORMER PRESIDENT CLAIMED VICTORY, CRITICIZED THE MODERATORS AND WAFFLED ON A SECOND DEBATE. THE VICE PRESIDENT SAID SHE STILL SEES HERSELF AS THE UNDERDOG. THE CAMPAIGN MADE IT CLEAR SHE WANTS A SECOND DEBATE. SHE ALSO RECEIVED A POSTDEBATE BOOST IN THE FORM OF A SURPRISE ENDORSEMENT FROM TAYLOR SWIFT. JOINING ME NOW ON SET, GARRETT HAAKE. THANKS TO YOU FOR STARTING US OFF. GARRETT, LET ME START WITH YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING YOUR SOURCES. WHAT DID THEY SAY? TRUMP IS SAYING THIS WAS HIS BEST DEBATE EVER. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> PEOPLE ON HIS PAYROLL. THERE WERE MORE OPPORTUNITIES HE HAS HAD THAT HE WAS PREP FOR, TRYING TO TIE HARRIS TO BIDEN. HE DID NOT DO SO. INSTEAD HE CHASED SOME RABBITS ON CROWD SIZE OR PETS IN OHIO. WITH THAT SAID, A LOT OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT THINK IT MATTERS THAT MUCH AT THE MARGINS. THE ONUS WAS ON HARRIS TO INTRODUCE HERSELF. NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IS UNDECIDED ON DONALD TRUMP. THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST THEY COULD SAY. >> YOU ARE IN THE SPIN ROOM WHEN HE SURPRISE EVERYONE. IT FELT VERY 2016. WHAT WERE YOUR TAKEAWAYS? YOU ASKED HIM OFF THE BAT, IF YOU THOUGHT YOU DID SO WELL, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? >> RICK PERRY IN 2012, HE FORGOT THE THIRD AGENCY HE WANTED TO GET RID OF, HE KNEW HE NEEDED TO COME TO THE SPIN ROOM TO CLEAN UP THAT MESS. THAT IS WHY THEY COME TO THE SPIN ROOM. THAT'S THE FRAMEWORK THAT I LOOKED AT DONALD TRUMP'S APPEARANCE. HE FELT LIKE HE DIDN'T GET HIS MESSAGE ACROSS. IF YOU ARE DONALD TRUMP, THE SOLUTION TO ANY PROBLEM IS MORE DONALD TRUMP. HE THOUGHT HE COULD BE A BETTER SPINNER ON ANYBODY. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT A POTENTIAL SECOND DEBATE? HE NOW IS INDICATING THAT MAYBE HE WILL? >> LAST NIGHT, NO. THIS MORNING, NO. THIS AFTERNOON, MAYBE. HE'S TALKING ABOUT BEING OPEN TO A DEBATE ON FOX NEWS. IF THERE IS A DEBATE AND HE'S BEING CALLED OUT FOR NOT ATTENDING -- IF HARRIS CAME OUT AND SAID THAT I AGREED TO DO A DEBATE ON ANY DAY, HE WOULD BE THERE. IT WOULD BE HARD TO KEEP HIM OFF THE STAGE IF IT IS SET. >> THAT IS A GREAT WAY. DO THEY REALLY WANT TO LET THE FINAL WORD BE LEFT WITH THE RUNNING MATE? WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN? SHE FEELS LIKE SHE HAD A VERY STRONG NIGHT. AT THE SAME TIME, SHE DIDN'T ANSWER KEY QUESTIONS ABOUT HER RECORD AND SOME OF HER SHIFTS OF POLICY AND HOW THE HARRIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT FROM BIDEN'S. >> Reporter: THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN IS THRILLED BY HER PERFORMANCE LAST NIGHT. HER POST EARLIER ON SOCIAL MEDIA WAS THE DEBATE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WATCH THIS. THEY FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT IT. THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT REMAIN UNANSWERED IF YOU WANT TO DIG DOWN. SHE NEVER ANSWERS SPECIFICALLY WHETHER AMERICANS WERE BETTER OFF NOW THAN THEY WERE FOUR YEARS AGO. SHE DIDN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT SHE WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ON IMMIGRATION. SHE DIDN'T ANSWER WHETHER THE BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION BEARS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE U.S. CHAOTIC WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN THAT LEFT 13 AMERICAN SERVICEMEMBERS DEAD. THE BOTTOM LINE, THIS WAS AN INCUMBENT AGAINST THE CHALLENGER. THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN FEELS VERY SATISFIED THAT IN MANY WAYS SHE MADE IT A REFERENDUM ON DONALD TRUMP. TURNING THE PAGE WOULD BE TURNING THE PAGE ON HIM, NOT THE BIDEN/HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. THAT IS THE MESSAGE THEY HOPE RESONATES WITH AMERICANS. NOT EVERY AMERICAN VIEWS IT THIS WAY BUT SHE'S TRYING TO CAST HERSELF AS THE OUTSIDER. THE CHANGE AGENT IN THIS RACE. >> SHE IS. SOME EXTRAORDINARY OBJECTS TODAY. THE NATION MARKS THE 9/11 ANNIVERSARY. VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, CAME FACE-TO- FACE AGAIN. IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS THERE, AS WELL. THE OPTICS WERE INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAD HARRIS SHAKING DONALD TRUMP'S HAND FOR THE SECOND TIME IN AS MANY DAYS. ALSO, THIS REMINDER THAT SHE HAS SERVED WITH PRESIDENT BIDEN. YET, AS YOU POINTED OUT, TRYING TO DISTANCE HERSELF SO SHE CAN MAKE THAT CASE THAT SHE IS THE CHANGE CANADA. HOW CHALLENGING IS THAT? >> Reporter: THE HANDSHAKE TODAY, YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY MET. THEY ONLY WAITED A MATTER OF HOURS TO SAY HELLO AGAIN. TODAY HE DESCRIBED AS POLITE. SHE'S TRYING TO SEPARATE HERSELF FROM JOE BIDEN, THAT REMAINS A CHALLENGE NO MATTER HOW SHE TRIES TO CAST IT. SHE SAID YOU ARE NOT RUNNING AGAINST JOE BIDEN, YOU ARE RUNNING AGAINST ME. SHE STILL IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. RIGHT NOW. SHE IS TRYING TO MAKE THIS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP AS IT IS ABOUT THE BIDEN/HARRIS RECORD. NOTABLY, BIDEN HAS NOT BEEN PUBLIC OTHER THAN ONE EVENT. SHE'S EFFECTIVELY CAMPAIGNING ON HER OWN THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE CAMPAIGN. SHE WILL BE IN NORTH CAROLINA TOMORROW. THEY WANT HER TO STAND ON HER OWN LEGS TO DEFINE TO AMERICANS WHAT A HARRIS PRESIDENCY WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM A BIDEN PROTESTANT C -- PRESIDENCY? SHE HAS BEEN LESS PROGRESSIVE THAN HIM. SHE MOVED FURTHER TO THE MIDDLE THEN JOE BIDEN. THERE ARE SOME SHE'S TRYING TO LOCKSTEP LIKE FRACKING. >> ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS, WILL SHE DO -- GIVE A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION FROM HOW SHE GOT FROM POINT A TO POINT B? WHAT IS THE STRATEGY FOR HER MOVING FORWARD? >> Reporter: WE WILL SEE HER ON THE ROAD. SHE WILL BE IN NORTH CAROLINA TOMORROW. BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I AM HAVING WITH ANALYSTS WHO WERE OBSERVERS OF POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS DATING DECADES, SHE GAVE HERSELF A STRONG FOUNDATION TO BUILD GOING FORWARD AS IT RELATES TO THIS CAMPAIGN. SHE DID NOT ANSWER EVERYTHING, CHIPS ACT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SUCCESS OF THE HAYDN HARRIS ADMINISTRATION. BOTTOM LINE, THEY FEEL LIKE SHE SUCCEEDED TO COMMUNICATE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE COMPETENCY AND A VISION FOR THE