TOUR Championship | Fantasy Golf Preview & Picks, Sleepers, Data - DFS Golf & DraftKings

Intro what's up guys Rick here with your preview for this week's TOUR Championship the final event of the PGA Tour season but have no fear the offseason is very short there is only one week off on the PGA tour before they start up the fall portion of the schedule and in that time we're still going to have European tour events uh live golf events corn fairy Tour event like all that fun stuff so we're going to continue to roll on here does not matter that this is the end of the season because we're starting up the next one basically immediately a couple of notes out of the gate first and foremost uh our listener League this week the link is in the description if you want to head over to Splash and get your spot right now that would be great this is the largest guarantee we've had this year and i' i' I'd love to be able to fill this so that we can keep the momentum going into the fall the Tour Championship is one of my favorite events there's a lot of data and strategy so I'm going to show you a lot of different things this week in including yes I've brought back the Matrix again in 2024 the link for that and anything else that you might need will be in the description of this video or the podcast if you are listening to the audio version of the show firstly we Course Preview must talk about the venue so this is East Lake a golf course that has been on the schedule as the Tour Championship for decades and it historically has very sticky course history not only do you get a similar number of players who are playing it every year but you get them playing it at the same time of year it is four guaranteed rounds you get a lot of good data and a lot of information on East Lake I will show you the coar horses but we're going to have to walk this back in just one second if you look at rickun good.com my website giant database and tools for fantasy and golf betting the best player at East Lake in this field in a minimum of eight rounds is shley is gaining about 2.5 2.05 Strokes gain per round it is significantly the best rate of anybody else Rory mroy played more rounds and he's been very good as well 1.35 Justin Thomas 1.33 you can read here below but uh Victor hin and Russell Henley round out the guys who are gaining at least a stroke per round at East Lake with a minimum of eight rounds here's the problem they have done uh a significant amount of work on this golf course in the last year in fact they ripped it down to the bones and there are no no better way to show that than to show you the satellite imagery because you can see it look at this they've got it completely shaved they are uh they are recontouring bunkers they're they added bunkers there is there is just a lot going on here so what happened um again they they took this down to the bones okay so it is it has been completely resurfaced new grasses uh basically throughout the golf course but definitely on the fairways and greens the fairways and greens have been recontoured uh you know just different undulations and and things of that nature um it is actually playing as a par 71 this year instead of a par 70 they added about 150 yards to this golf course so so what do we do here right what do we do well I think the good news is that uh it still is the same bones right it is still the same golf course in terms of um whole directions dog leg lefts are still dog leg lefts lengths of holes are still generally the same um shot shapes are still going to be rewarded uh in a in a in a similar manner however the experience that you might have earned over the years and understanding the way green Contour work green complexes work you can see here they actually moved to Green so look at this this is actually a really great example so the software that I'm using is actually um satelliting into the old green or where the old green was here on number six it looks like they moved it uh what is that about 10 yards to the right oh 40 yards to the well that's kind of middle middle okay so it's called 40 yards middle to Middle to the right which is pretty significant right makes makes that that that angle a little bit different so um the experience that golfers might have earned over the last couple of decades gets a little dialed down right because someone like a lud VI oberg who's playing this golf course blind for the first time well now a lot of guys are going to feel like they're playing it blind for the first time so so as much as I still like putting an emphasis on the course history because it has been so sticky it will not be as emphatic as it has been in previous years and now obviously when we start getting the uh pressers and the interviews and guys talking about the golf course when they get into town and playing nine holes on it I'll I'll hopefully have more information about how they feel that it's playing uh but that will be available kind of more Wednesday on the on the live chat Rick run good YouTube channel for that so a very interesting situation historically this is a golf course that has uh really rewarded accuracy so there there was a big discrepancy between uh the scoring average when you were playing out of the Fairway and when you were missing the Fairway 18 the right side of 18 historically used to be one of the biggest misses uh definitely on this golf course and in and in the game if you miss on the right side of the farway on 18 you you were like 7/10 of a stroke worse or something like that some some unbelievably huge um penalty and that's kind of what we've seen historically is if you are playing out of the Short Grass you're going to have an opportunity to hit these greens you're going to you're going to hit a lot of long shots in but playing out of the Short Grass has been super key uh game putting has not been correlated to success in fact it's one of the lowest ranked courses I think even more so now with the lack of maybe experience or knowledge on those greens uh this is this is a an accurate drivers's uh paradise and then guys who can hit their second shots but I also like you know the thinkers and this is going to be unquantifiable but Xander schaule you know did not I don't think he hit a shot last week at altitude in his practice rounds without his launch Monitor and it's that type of commitment to preparation that I think is going to be really important here so that might be a little bit more difficult to um quantify but we'll do our best as as we get through this and if that wasn't enough uh we also have to talk about the format of this because it is a very different format and I'm just going to share my screen here because uh our friends over at Underdog they have this really great graphic it's very easy to understand so the the 30 golfers are not all starting at even par they have this staggered start I believe this is the fifth or sixth year that they've been doing this so Scotty Sheffer because he enters the Tour Championship first in the FedEx Cup standings he starts at 10 under par with Xander Schley starting at 8 under Hideki Matsuyama at seven under Keegan Bradley at six lud viberg at five then they're bunched into groups of five so there's five guys who are going to start at four under there's five guys who are going to start at three under there's five guys who are going to start at two under five at one under and then five at even Park so that means Justin Thomas will tee off on Thursday morning 10 shots off the lead we can argue until we're BW in the face about whether this is a good way to do it but that's not what this show is about this show is to figure out the best way to attack this week so uh what you also have to realize is that before anybody hits a t-shot they are already already being credited with their finishing position on drafts Kings so that means Scotty sheffler when he hits his first t- shot or may you know before anybody hits a t- shot on Thursday morning Scotty Sheffer is going to have 30 finishing position points because he has already slotted in for first place he will not have the requisite birdies or Eagles or pars or bogeys that would have earned him that spot so you might see the finishing positions fluctuate quite a bit and they will make up um at least early in the week a little bit of a larger percentage of total points because guys won't have the whole by ho scores to go along with those finishing position points and it will also create a situation where you're going to see pricing like you've never seen before right I mean it's just huge exaggerations because guys are starting with finishing position points and what that really means is that you looking for big movers who's the guy from one under who is going to finish fifth right who's going to move from t21 to Fourth who's going to have the best raw scoring week they will improve their it's almost like I think in um maybe in NASCAR or in F1 fantasy you kind of get points for what your starting position was and then what your finishing position was and what that Gap is so that's what you're looking for you're looking for the big movers here and that is why a handful of years ago I created this this spreadsheet that I've been calling the Tour Championship Matrix and I don't know why I call it that but that's what I call it it looks like this and if you want access to this uh you can have access to it because the link to download it is in the description and I don't remember if I gave it away last year the year before but honestly if you think this is valuable rickun good.com is 10,000 times more valuable than this so this is a spreadsheet that I have loaded in every golfer's uh stats into for a variety of different rounds last 12 rounds last 24 last 36 and last 100 I'm going to focus on last 36 for these purposes but there are tabs at the bottom that would that will allow you to use the other um the other time frames or the other round buckets and what this does is it allows you to visually see likely outcomes and in turn unlikely outc comes so this is up up to date up to the minute right I've loaded in the rounds from the BMW Championship and obviously obviously before that and it knows the variance of these golfers so um you know if Scotty Sheffer if every golfer in this field plays to their average their 36 round average every single golfer in this field uh Scotty Sheffer is going to finish first Xander schafle is going to finish second Hideki Matsuyama is going to finish third and then Adam Scott in the last so this is using last 36 would finish fourth now that is him oh I'm sorry oh my goodness I I had him I had him punched in there Rory mroy would finish fourth you could see I was already messing around with the data let me save over that uh Rory mroy would finish fourth which means he would pass um you know Klay ludvig Keegan because over four rounds his average is good enough to pass those guys so now we're dealing dealing with the handicaps right the the the gross score uh what they're starting at and what they're able to do so in the past I I've pointed out that there are usually way fewer golfers who can actually win this tournament than the general public believes and knock on wood uh we've been very accurate and very right about that I think the farthest comeback ever was Rory starting at four under and winning somebody correct me if I'm wrong he was either four or five under I believe and that was that was our that year that was our line of demarcation Rory ma was the only golfer I think it was four under because I remember saying these other guys at four under are the same the same amount of shots back but they do not possess the upside that Rory mroy does to catch these guys so that's that is how this Matrix works or that's the idea of it and then what you're able to do is start changing the percentile finishes so a 50 50 for everybody is an average week um you know we can start I'm going to start moving these around and showing you different outcomes here and seeing How likely that they might be and getting a better understanding for who can actually win so let's go through a couple here can Scotty sheffler win of course he can if every golfer plays to their average uh Scotty will win so that that's an easy one Can Xander win well he has to make up two strokes so what if he has yeah a 53d percentile 54 5 fourth percentile result while everyone else is average that gets Xander across the finish line so that would be Xander gaining about 11 and a half Strokes over the course of four rounds well How likely is it that he does that well let's see he's done it um what 11 and a half he did it at the open he did at the US Open he did it at the PJ Championship he did it at Wells Fargo he did it at the Players Championship he did it at the American Express he did it last year's TOUR Championship and he nearly did it about a h little more than a half stroke fewer or too low in Memphis just two weeks ago so yes Xander can absolutely do that right I'm I'm just trying to show you his golfer profile so that you get an idea of how likely it is that these golfers are are going to are going to pull this off now if if Xander has a 60th percentile week and Scotty also has a 60th percentile week well then Scotty still wins okay but Scotty could conceivably have a uh you know 48th percentile weak and still win because he's handed the two strokes and because his upside is so good so again I don't there's there are literally infinite possibilities here but I'm just trying to show you a couple of examples well how does Hideki get to the top um Hideki needs a 65th percentile performance no that won't work 70th no that won't work 75th might work yeah 72 72 so that would be Hideki gaining 12 Strokes to the field while everyone else has an average week how often does Hideki now Hideki is kind of a very high upside very low uh downside type of guy well he's gained 12 Strokes to the field in each of the last two events that he has finished that's the Memphis and the Olympics and he was certainly on Pace to do that at the BMW Championship but uh withdrew after the first round he already gained five that week or last week he did it at the US Open and he did it at the Players champ I ship along with Riviera this year so yes certainly capable of Hideki doing that so Hideki yes can win this can Keegan win this so this is what's interesting Keegan really only had that one massive week last week that got him into fourth if everybody played to their average this year or the last 36 rounds excuse me Keegan would actually fall to 9th yeah it hasn't been a great year for Keegan so I imagine he is going to need a pretty big outlier performance to get to the top and he would this would require require everyone else to play to their average again that's the Assumption I made for everyone but he would need an 84 percentile performance which is 13.8 Strokes gained to the field 13.8 is a lot I'm not even sure he did that last week he didn't he gained n and a half last week small field uh 13 he did it at The Travelers last year he did it at the farmers um in 2023 those are the only two times he's done it since the start of 2023 the problem is this like you're going to have to gain that much on this field very small field that does not seem super likely I don't I I would hate to rule out a guy who is fresh off a win who is only four shots back but that does not feel super likely to me um I won't go through every single one of these but like you know ludvig can get there with probably well an 82 percentile performance which is him gaining 14 yeah okay so let's do Rory I think Rory's kind of the interesting one what does Rory need Rory needs a wow 78th 77th percentile result so he needs a 15 half Strokes gained week how again this is in a small field but so they're a little bit off or a little bit you know different to look at but 15 and a half well did it at the US Open did it in two Dubai events in January has did it at last year's US Open he's been close a lot he's been close a lot but that is not um the last 36 does not treat Rory great so that would be 77th percentile if we go I just really quickly I just want to see yeah his um if you go to 100 rounds he would he would need three4 of a stroke less than he than he needs in in the last 36 so what does that say it means he's he's not playing as well compared to his 100 round Baseline okay I I mean I I can stop at any point and let you guys just mess around with this but I'm I'm I'm obviously curious about it too and I'll I'll get to the cheat sheet and get to the field um more in just one second but I'm trying to get a feel for how many guys can win this so I'm thinking it's Scotty Xander Hideki definitely Keegan I will include hesitantly I will include he is four ludvig is here at five that might be it um moraa would need an 83rd percentile performance but again if anyone of any one of the pro then the problem starts to be that if any one of these guys ahead of you ahead of him just has a slightly above average week that's not enough for Colin to get there and uh the the idea that five guys are going to have a below average week and they're basically the five best guys doesn't make a lot of sense I would hate to say there's only five guys that can win this but that might be the case here Rory and I'd hate to rule Rory up because he's he's been able he's proven that he can do it but I think we might be in fiveman territory here big the big five um the the other part of this is is if you think the winning score is going to be 18 under par like there's just there's just very little way for Matthew Pavone to get to 18 under uh he would get there about 4% of the time okay so look at the bottom of this just before move What Would Justin Thomas Justin Thomas would probably need um the the tornament of his life yeah I mean he would need to gain something like 17 and a half Strokes to the field maybe 16 and a half and have no other player in the field play to their average or above their average so just incredibly unlikely um so you know if Scotty plays to a slightly above average performance JT would need to have like yeah basically the the best four rounds of his of his of his life so that's why a lot of these guys get boxed out um now is it possible for JT to go from 26th to 11th absolutely so we'll start talking about those guys but I'll save this and I'll put it in the description you can download it and mess around with it but it gives you a really good idea of who can actually win the golf tournament here's the a cheat sheet at rickun good.com and I am shook obviously I was expecting much different salaries here Scotty sheffer's 12,200 Xander's 11,000 hideki's 101 I had to go back and look at this so I've got all the history in the Holy Grail when we started this 2019 with the staggered start Justin Thomas was 15,500 155 in 2020 DJ was 152 in 2021 it came down a little bit Patrick Klay was 13,400 in 2020 that was 2021 2022 Scotty was 13,600 and last year Scotty was 13,400 so we have been coming down but 12 what is he 12,200 is cheaper than he was last week at the BMW Championship am I I'm sorry am I missing am I missing something here has something changed that I've not picked up on are they not using the finishing position like I I went through and read the rules again doesn't seem like anything has changed I I'm not I I'm very Shook on on what is what has happened here but wow okay well um assuming that nothing has changed in the structure of this you've got to be trying to jam Scotty and Xander into like every single lineup right what is the worst case scenario for Scotty Sheffer he finishes like third or fourth I mean like like even if he has a horrible week I'm I'm very surp surprised by the pricing I will try to move on I will I will try to move on but I'm I'm very shocked at the pricing um let's talk about the big three here and and the top of the board is full of question marks 10K Range by the way so let's let's let's talk about this Scotty Sheffer $12,200 is going to start with a two-shot lead here concerning stuff at the BMW Championship indeed uh lost Strokes from Lost Strokes T green for the first time in basically two years lost a ton on approach seemed frustrated seemed annoyed I think it's been a long year for Scotty I think that he hates the playoff system uh he's lost Strokes putting in three out of his last four East Lake has also never really been a super great spot for him I'll uh I'll pull up his TOUR Championship history here now you have to remember his finishing positions are inclusive of The Strokes so T6 T2 t22 and 5ifth but remember in the year that he finished second there what was that 2021 he started the week in in first okay so you have to look at The Strokes gain numbers so he lost four strokes to the field last year and finished T6 he gained just two point .2 in a T2 lost 2.7 and his best his best result or his best actual week he gained 7.6 in 2020 so that's kind of a long time ago um I I think there's good reason to be a little bit concerned about Scotty Sheffer here but the pricing has kind of really flipped my brain I think it's very obvious that most people are going to roll Xander out here not only does he get the benefit of the pricing $111,000 um he is the king of East Lake even if you dial that back a little bit even if you take a half a stroke per round off of Xander at East Lake he is still the best player in in East Lake history at least in this field and he seems to be surging while Scotty and maybe Rory and question marks around Hideki kind of seem to be going in a different direction right and and you look at the results he's not lost Strokes to the field since Pebble Beach and that was a weird three you know three round event that played on three different golf coures and got shortened like very very weird stuff um Xander seems to be surging again I like the preparation out of Xander I I like the way that he goes about his business no surprise there but I think he's going to be ready to rock and roll and then Hideki here um I'm going to assume that Hideki is going to be fine we have seen him WD so first off he plays great last week WDS I I think it was a situation where he had to play he had to like cool off on 18 uh sit sit and wait around for like four hours with a weather delay get back out that's not good for a guy who nurses a bad back I think that the WD was very precautionary assuming we've got boots on the ground this week we'll see how Hadi is doing but I am not afraid to go right back to Hideki here when I think a lot of people will not I mean if you look at his last nine rounds it's last nine rounds he's finished third at the Olympics he won in Memphis and he was second and after one round getting five Strokes to the field at Castle Pines and doing it in very Hideki ways so I'm not super worried about rolling Hideki back out there um I'm going to skip ludvig for a second here and go to Rory because this needs to be we got to we got to figure out Rory here he's $9,600 um what direction is he going in it kind 9K Range of feels like he's going in a in a perturbed um kind of game is is maybe limping to the Finish Line a little bit we've talked about this already a lot uh Rory M has already played significantly more rounds through August than he has at any point in his career uh and we still have four more to go it has been a long year of golf and it's starting to cool off a bit for Rory I don't like to see the driver issues um the putter has been pretty nasty for the last handful of of of starts and if we take you know whatever whatever you want to downgrade a course history if you want if we're going to take a half stroke off a Xander which probably feels like a lot you take the same off of Rory still very good but he's like a stroke per round player instead of a stroke and a half per round player ludvig is here at $99,900 again $100 cheaper than he was last week I'm did they just like take last week's pricing and remove a $100 from everybody is that what they did um I'm probably not telling you anything you don't you don't already know about these guys at the top of the board ludvic can win this golf tournament uh I do not like that he lost a stroke and a half on approach last week but he had so many bad holes I I I think he led the field in both birdies and Eagles last week and obviously did not win I think it easier to clean up those especially as we get now basically back down to sea level and what he's used to um then ask guys to go out and make more birdies and more Eagles right so I think this is actually a very very good spot to run out ludvig now let's just switch to the part where we need to find guys who are going to significantly outperform their starting position that's that's what we're looking for here there's a couple different ways we could do this we could look at The Strokes gain Trend right and we could say okay which guys are trending in the right direction so last 36 rounds which honestly might be too too much at this point you'll see there are four gol five golfers who are gaining at least 7/10 of a stroke to their own 100 round Baseline 8K Range okay that's good to know let's look at like the last 12 rounds maybe we need to go even more specific here um and the name that pops up and actually the two names in this 8K range that pop pop up I think make a lot of sense here Sam Burns is $88,500 and Windam Clark is $8,100 s uh Sam Burns is also similar to ludvig was especially Last Week Big Time birdie maker uh made too many bogeys but still had a really great week this is the combo you want to see gain six Strokes with the putter gain two or three on approach and just be zeros everywhere else uh this is a really good opportunity for burns to jump up the board and same goes for Windam Clark who we have talked ad nauseum about where he has uh outside of like one outside of like five rounds in his last 30 he's been awesome right just truly awesome uh again four water balls on Thursday kill his Strokes gained approach numbers he was actually basically a zero player if not a small positive on uh the the rest of the week if you get rid of Thursday and I think there's a lot of good signs here for somebody who and both This falls for burns too it's un unmitigated aggression is what they should have right you're trying to make up ground on the the field you're going to start a handful of shots back go out and see how much you can fire this thing up the other one is Victor all right so Victor havland who now drops to $8,300 in the salary which again are they considering the starting Strokes or are they not considering the starting Strokes Victor is going to start at I believe two underpar um maybe three under two or three underpar is doing a couple of things really well here this approach play he picked up five in Memphis five and a half in Memphis and another five at Castle Pines that is very encouraging he didn't drive it as well at Castle Pines but he was just a small loser we know that when it clicks for Vic it's high upside stuff uh is he going to lose five and a half Strokes putting let's see how he's putted here in the past and again I understand new complexes new grass all that stuff last year he gained 3.3 putting the year before that he was a small positive and then going back 21 and 20 he was pretty bad on the surfaces but there is at least enough evidence here to say he might gain five Strokes on approach he might gain three with the Putter and all I'll just take anything else I get I'll I'll accept graciously the $7,000 range here there is evidence that Tony phenow could be on the verge of a breakout he's 7K Range in this upper leftand quadrant the optimal quadrant to be in where it says you know how is the golfer hitting it from T to green and compare that to his Baseline of putting can you get back to his Baseline of putting and then if he can how much juice can you squeeze out of it essentially that's the the short version but uh Tony F now ranks very highly there he's got some decent finishes H some okay finishes here at East Lake he's got a handful of good starts coming in I think it's fine maybe I'm more excited about Sun JM if you go to how do we want to do this um let's go to the power rankings and look at the last 24 round rounds for everybody in this field something like I mean maybe maybe I should be going deeper than that sun jm's the ninth best player in this field I'm sorry he's the seventh best player in the field he's gaining a stroke and a half he's been better than Fleetwood Klay low Ry morawa Windam I mean like a lot of guys and he's he made a run he was one of the big movers here would that have been last year maybe two years ago 2022 he was one of the big mover who flew up outperformed his finishing position and almost stole this thing away I I I love that um he's been he's been playing phenomenal golf outside of that I think Billy horel is interesting he he's been playing great I I wish he hit um a few more Fairways I I wish he wasn't as reliant on the putter but if we fire up Billy here and Billy also has a real case to be made to be on this President's Cup team in fact he'd be on my President's Cup team he's gained Strokes on approaching five straight he's gain Strokes with the putter in three out of his last four he's been positive off the T in all four of those um this is a very solid T to Green profi profile and he is he does not look tired to me he looks like he is sprinting through the Finish Line the rest of this range which I C I can't believe it only goes down to the 6000s here um so you probably saw Taylor penrith's name pop up a lot so pendrith popped up on the trends tool so he's playing a stroke over his Baseline in the last 12 and actually it probably goes back farther than that he has as far as uh he's never played the Tour Championship this is going to be his his his first his first trip to East Lake which again if there's ever a year for kind of experience and history to be mitigated a bit it's it's this one right now he also has a lot of incentive to play on himself onto uh his president Cup team finished 13th last week the BMW Championship and lost Strokes ball striking which is something he rarely does and that goes with a 22nd in Memphis Back toback fifth place finishes before that if I open it up to the last 16 rounds you might get even better numbers from pendrith who's already very good yeah he picks up like another third of a stroke per round uh to his own 100 round Baseline in the last 16 so he's been e even better in in a little bit longer of a or a little bit bigger of a sample size so he's he's going to be kind of the obvious one here sep straa I believe if we go back to the Holy Grail 6K Range go to the co horses if I lower this to a minimum of eight rounds you're going to see I believe straa pops his head up here yeah so straka's here a stroke per round over eight rounds at East Lake it's the smallest sample size but I'll pull up his profile because the finishing positions I don't think are going to do it justice because I think he's almost always starting at even par or he's always started pretty far down the board here yeah so gained four strokes last year stroke per round amazing and he gained 3.6 in 2022 nearly a stroke per round awesome like go do that again that's that's the path here that's the path to him finishing I don't know t n something like that which would be very very valuable in this situation and also when he's when he's playing well um plays out of the Fairway a lot and I think greens uh Fairways and greens this week are going to be pretty darn important anybody else here uh OE right OE at $6,900 I do not think on my team he would be solidified onto the US uh president Cup team but I do not think he has been solidified there OE is surprisingly more accurate and hits more uh greens than you would think he is going to model pretty poorly because he got smoked in Denver uh he lost 11 Strokes on approach I will have to go back this has to be multiple water balls a day it has to be I just it's going to be by far his worst approach week ever yeah like double double his worst appro this is not going to happen again right that that this requires so many water balls so much probably inability or confusion with the elevation numbers I just don't care and that is not his play I think that's a pretty interesting by low spot for OE we're going to run a model here now the model I actually like this because it's not going to um it's not going to incorporate the Custom Model the starting Strokes which I think is good cuz we're looking for just the best the best plays anyway I think we need to go really small here you know last 16 rounds this is like we're sprinting these guys have been playing a lot of golf let's just do the last 16 rounds I'm going to do a baseline of of of um Strokes gain total at at 25 and then I'm going to put uh 20 on accuracy 10 on distance I'm probably going to put a lot on approach let's call it 35 on approaching the last 24 and then I've only got 10 left do I care about putting do I care about around the green probably not only I mean I do but for for this purpose let's just say put our last 10 on East Lake and I think if this was not a week in which or not a year in which they've done a huge restoration this I would have put a lot more on I would have put at least 15 maybe I would have put 20 on East Lake history but with the current model number one is Xander Schley two is Scotty sheffler Tommy Fleetwood Hideki Billy hoe is five Klay feno Henley Adam Scott Taylor pendrith where's Rory mroy 23rd out of a field of 30 has not been good for Rory and the small sample size really hurts him that's very surprising ludvig's only 19th I mean he had basically three three bad starts and then a good one wow okay well we'll save it and we'll look at it on Wednesday but this is very interesting week I'm sure there's going to be a lot of great conversation to be had at the live chat I am uh looking forward to seeing you guys there and best of luck this week