'It's all about scaring people': Tim Ryan talks conspiracy theories in the presidential debate

>>> WHILE THE TRUCK TEAM >>> WHILE THE TRUCK TEAM ELEVATES CONSPIRACY THEORIES ABOUT IMMIGRANTS IT IS WORTH REMEMBERING THAT TWO YEARS AGO JD VANCE WON HIS SENATE RACE BY STOKING FEARS ABOUT MIGRANTS IN THE STATE OF OHIO AS TIM WALZ THE STATE OF OHIO AS TIM WALZ GETS READY TO DEBATE TRUMP'S RUNNING MATE, OUR NEXT GUEST IS THE ONLY DEMOCRAT THE FACE OF VANCE, MY FRIEND, FORMER OHIO CONGRESSMAN TIM RYAN JOINS ME NOW. HE FOUND THAT THE NEW ORGANIZATION, WE THE PEOPLE. TIM, YOU GET SOME CREDIT BECAUSE YOU ARE THE FIRST PROMINENT DEMOCRAT TO CALL FOR JOE BIDEN TO STEP ASIDE AND FOR KAMALA HARRIS TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT. YOU GOT A LOT OF HEAT FOR IT AT THE TIME AND LAST NIGHT, AMERICA GOT TO SEE THE KAMALA HARRIS THAT YOU TOLD US ABOUT. HOW YOU FEELING NOW? >> I FEEL GREAT. BUT SHE WAS AWESOME. I FEEL GREAT FOR THE COUNTRY, I FEEL GREAT FOR THE PARTY. SHE WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE -- LIKE ANY BUSINESS, IF YOU HAVE LIKE ANY BUSINESS, IF YOU HAVE TALENT, YOU HAVE SMARTS, AND YOU'RE GENERALLY LIKE WANTING TO LEARN, YOU'RE GOING TO GROW IN WHATEVER JOB YOU GET INTO, EVEN IF THAT JOB AT THE TIME MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OVER YOUR HEAD. HEAD. SHE HAD THE 2020 ELECTION IN WHICH SHE DID NOT RUN A GREAT RACE. SHE BECAME VP. SHE JUST KEPT GROWING AND GROWING AND LEARNING AND THAT IS WHY I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? LIKE THIS IS THE ONE THAT SHOULD TAKE THE MANTLE AND LAST NIGHT WAS SO FUN TO WATCH. THE ONLY THING BETTER WAS FOX NEWS AFTER WATCHING THE MELTDOWN. >> I WASN'T WATCHING FOX NEWS AND I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WERE. >> I GOT A LOT OF ENTERTAINMENT FROM THAT. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE VP DEBATE BECAUSE IT IS LESS THAN A MONTH AWAY. YOU KNOW TIM WALZ. YOU HAVE DEBATED JD VANCE. HE IS MYSTERIOUS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A GUY LIKE TIM WALZ, HE IS VERY AFFABLE, HE IS SOMEONE YOU WOULD THINK MIGHT RUN FOR OFFICE, HUGE LIKABILITY FACTOR. JD VANCE HAS ALMOST NONE, SIMILAR TO A RON DeSANTIS YET BOTH ARE IN OFFICE. WHAT IS THE KEY TO RUNNING WHAT IS THE KEY TO RUNNING AGAINST THESE GUYS? >> I THINK SHOWING THE PERSONALITY, SHOWING THE LIKABILITY, TALKING STRAIGHT. JD CAN GET INTO THESE VERY THEORETICAL, HIGH-MINDED CONVERSATIONS TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THE INSANITY OF IMMIGRANTS EATING DOGS OR WHATEVER. YOU CAN SEE HIM LAST NIGHT ON SOME OF THE SHOWS. >> THAT'S THE LOWEST LEVEL POSSIBLE. >> IT IS LOW BUT HE TRIES TO GET INTO SOME LEVEL OF NUANCE AND I THINK WALLS'S STRENGTH IS GOING TO BE THE COACH, THE GOING TO BE THE COACH, THE STRENGTH, THE STRAIGHT TALK, THE NORMAL EXPLANATIONS PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND. THE KEY IS GOING TO BE DON'T LET JD VANCE GET AWAY WITH A BUNCH OF HIS BS BECAUSE HE WILL TRY TO SAY I'VE NEVER SAID THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT. HE WILL TRY TO WIGGLE OUT OF SOME OF THESE CRAZY THINGS THAT HE HAS SAID AND I THINK WALLS HE HAS SAID AND I THINK WALLS MAC -- WALZ IS A PERFECT PERSON TO CALL HIM OUT ON IT. >> I JUST SPOKE TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONER PRESIDENT IT'S TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE TO SAY WE HAVE A TON OF MIGRANTS WHO HAVE COME FROM THIS AREA, WE HAVE MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE AND WE HAVE A PROBLEM. THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. HOW DOES A CONSPIRACY THEORY HOW DOES A CONSPIRACY THEORY LIKE THIS START, PEOPLE ARE STEALING, KILLING AND EATING ANIMALS. WHAT WENT THROUGH YOUR MIND, HOW DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS SPREAD SO FAST? >> THE ANALYSIS IS LIKE THE WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS IN SOME OF THESE EXTREME GROUPS ONLINE STARTED TO AMPLIFY AND IT'S ALL ABOUT SCARING PEOPLE AND THEY THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. PEOPLE IN OHIO ARE PRETTY NORMAL PEOPLE. THEY MAY VOTE A LITTLE MORE THEY MAY VOTE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE DEPENDING ON THE ELECTION BUT THEY ARE PRETTY NORMAL PEOPLE AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. IMMIGRATION IS COMPLICATED. THERE'S NO ONE IS GOING TO SAY LIKE THIS IS EASY AND I THOUGHT WHAT TRUMP DID LAST NIGHT PUT HIM IN A LANE OBVIOUSLY IN SO MANY WAYS BUT ON THE EXTREMISM, MANY WAYS BUT ON THE EXTREMISM, EATING DOGS AND CATS AND ALL THAT CRAZINESS SO THE QUESTION IS, IF THIS IS SO COMPLICATED, IF WE NEED IMMIGRANTS, IF THEY WORK REALLY HARD LIKE A LOT OF THE CEOs IN SPRING FIELD HAVE SAID LIKE I WOULD HIRE 30 MORE HAITIANS BECAUSE THEY WORK SO HARD BUT WE CAN'T HAVE TOO MANY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROCESS. YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN AND SKIP THE LINE. THAT'S A COMPLICATED THAT'S A COMPLICATED CONVERSATION. WHO WAS THE LEADER RUNNING RIGHT NOW THAT CAN ACTUALLY BRING US TOGETHER RIGHT NOW AND SAY LET'S HAVE THIS COMPLICATED CONVERSATION. LET'S ADMIT IT IS COMPLICATED AND I THINK THAT IS FOR KAMALA OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO IS GOING TO CREATE A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN TRUMP. >>, THAT IS NOT WHAT HE IS DOING. HIS FEAR MONGERING HAS GONE SO FAR THAT HE HAS UPSET IN OHIO FAMILY THAT IS FACED AND IS GREASED -- GRIEF AND TRAGEDY. THE FATHER OF THE BOY IN OHIO IS DEMANDING AN APOLOGY FROM JD VANCE AND TRUMP AFTER THEY CITED THIS YOUNG BOY IS DEATH AS A REASON TO STOP PATIENT IMMIGRATION. >> JD VANCE AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE SPOKEN MY SON'S NAME AND USED HIS DEATH FOR POLITICAL GAIN. THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOW. THEY CAN VOMIT ALL THE HATE THEY WANT ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. THE BORDER CRISIS, AND EVEN UNTRUE CLAIMS ABOUT FLUFFY PETS BEING RAVAGED AND EATEN BY COMMUNITY MEMBERS. HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED, NOR HAVE THEY EVER BEEN ALLOWED TO MENTION AIDEN CLARK FROM SPRINGFIELD, OHIO. I WILL LISTEN TO THEM ONE MORE TIME TO HEAR THEIR APOLOGIES. >> PEOPLE FROM OHIO, THAT IS NOT NORMAL, THAT IS A FATHER WHO IS EXTRAORDINARY. HIS SON WAS KILLED IN AN ACCIDENT. >> YEAH, THAT IS HEARTBREAKING TO WATCH BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO HAS KIDS PUTS THEMSELVES IN THAT SITUATION, BUT WHAT IT REALLY ILLUSTRATES IS, THERE IS REALLY ILLUSTRATES IS, THERE IS NOBODY WHO CAN'T BE USED BY DONALD TRUMP AND JD VANCE TO SCORE POLITICAL POINTS. NO GRIEVING FAMILY, NO COMPLICATED IMMIGRATION SITUATION, NO WOMAN WHO HAS A COMPLICATED PREGNANCY. THOSE ARE ALL PAWNS IN THE GAME AND I THINK THAT IS THE EXHAUSTION THAT AMERICA SEES RIGHT NOW AT THAT AMERICA SEES RIGHT NOW AT I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO REJECT THAT BECAUSE IT IS NOT AMERICAN. IT'S NOT HUMAN. IT'S NOT KIND, IS NOT COMPASSIONATE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE AND IT IS REALLY SAD TO WATCH BECAUSE THAT POOR FAMILY LIKE WHEN THE SHOW IS OVER AND THE STORY SUBSIDES, THEY WILL THE STORY SUBSIDES, THEY WILL