Jordan Love vs. Brock Purdy: Would you pay Packers or 49ers QB? + Pressure on Cowboys | 3 & Out

Intro what's up everybody Welcome to three and- Out YouTube page I'm John middleof and we are talking football all day every day make sure you subscribe like the video share with your friends let's roll baby okay let's dive into a little thing we call the middle cough mailbag very very easy to get involved you just fire into my DMs you fire into my DMs John moff is the Instagram and get your question answered here on the show so yeah doesn't get any easier I don't think there could be any easier way to communicate unless you don't have Instagram you try to send me an email and then it kind of gets lost in the shuffle question for the Jordan Love vs Brock Purdy bag I heard you say on today's podcast you were in on love who do you have more faith in or who are you ready to pay love or py well I don't have to pay py for a year because I wouldn't be that comfortable I'm I'm not comfortable paying either I like paying guys after a longer sample size and Jordan loves doesn't get any smaller right half the year he wasn't even any good after the bye last year gakin said yeah these 11 games are going to Define our situation moving forward and the kid answered the Bell it was freaking awesome this is not a cop out because love is more gifted than pie I I think p has proven to be the ultimate KY Shanahan player uh I feel great about both you know why infrastructure the team the coach think about how K Shanahan You could argue is for me he's the second best coach in the league but if he's in everybody's top five uh their defense is awesome the infrastructure is there so how would you feel bad about hery with k just like how can you feel bad about Jordan love with laflor laflor resurrected Rogers career then they got rid of him after drafting this guy like he was part of it and then proved that he could coach him how are either guys going to fail there's more question marks with love he's just played less games or he's played more not by that much I mean pry played what six seven games his first year including the playoffs and obviously this last year full-time starter and three playoff games so that's 17 20 games I don't know the exact number his his rookie season because he got thrust into it when Jimmy broke his foot uh against the Dolphins but PR's game translates like it because he's a good decision maker I've seen him handle adversity he's accurate he's mobile uh he's he can play with guys who can't run routes you know he's got like one legit receiver Debo is much more of a b behind the line of scrimmage his coach is always going to have a really good run game where love is much more of like an explosive playmaker I think they're both going to be really good players for a long time I would bet on them partly because one with the Packers and one with K Shanahan and the ners and for the last 30 plus years quarterbacks have dominated with the Packers and as we learned last year it doesn't look like it's going to slow down and Kahan now has a long history of quarterbacks do well for him specifically this guy who is excelling Cowboys locker room with training camp starting I can't think of the mood within the cowboy I can't help but think of the mood within the Cowboys locker room I've been watching receiver and the Giants Hard Knocks and you get a sense that juice or Good Vibes contributes a lot to the level of success in the NFL I just don't see any juice being stirred up in the Cowboys locker room with a coach and a quarterback with expiring contracts in your opinion is there a connection there if things were to go south it would be a disaster get them I'm sweating if things were if they were to get off to a bad start it would snowball to me there would be no overcoming it because of the contract situations but if they're good you know if they're doing what they've done the last three years I don't think it matters with at all at all and to me the Good Vibes like you get Good Vibes when you win no one has Good Vibes when you lose the NFL sucks when you lose in baseball you can be a shitty team like every every day you're going to the yard having a good time not a great time but it's like and I'm trying to get mine it's not how it works in football coaches are miserable miserable players are miserable you get your ass kick every Sunday if the Cowboys are competitive it won't matter one iota now it will at the end of the season when it's like do you lose in the first round of the playoffs do you miss the playoffs by game then yeah that that would factor in but I would say until the end of September unless you're losing that they're going to be fine question for the NFL MVP odds mailbag what are some of your favorite bets for the season to gamble on for example Super Bowl winner MVP Defensive Player of the Year by the way Aaron Rogers comeback player of the year is going to print money uh that will be a project probably for the middle of August so I I have not even looked at the odds for any of that stuff uh haven't even thought about it to be to be completely honest with you to me MVP Joe burrow would be in the mix for comeback Player of the Year too so that'd be a little risky on Rogers I I think Josh Allen's bound to win an MVP and if he puts up great stats I I I think he's going to be right in the mix but I haven't we'll do that we will Hammer Hammer that you know mid to late August question for the bag as a Bears fan More pressure on Eberflus or Shane Waldron? early in this offseason I question the decision to keep eflu obviously Caleb's development is really the only thing that matters moving forward so my question to you is who is more important this season to the Bear's potential success iberl or Shane Waldren well I think they go hand inand because if Shane Waldren is good your offense is going to be good you're loaded right I mean we got some questions with the offensive line but the Young quarterback the three receivers signed a running back you have a young tight end under contract if your offense is good we know ebra flu in the defense has been much more competitive you know last year for sure then you're going to be in close games in close games that like that's the difference of winning 10 games or seven how does he no one has judged eberl or at least from a national level maybe locally you have but when you haven't been that competitive no one cares when you screw up timeouts no one's cares when you screw up situations you know to get yourself in field goal range or punt or you know go for it those situations as we saw with Brandon Staley the last couple years get put under a microscope so if the offense is good obviously there's a ton of pressure on Waldren to get the offense in a different Universe than it has been with Fields but if that works that means then Eber Flo his game manager is under a microscope because the difference of a couple wins in the NFL if you're like a seven eight win team could just be a timeout here a decision to go for it there you know the the the difference when an eight- win team and an 11- win team it I don't think the Gap is that wide now the gap between a 101 win team and like a 14 win team I think the gap's pretty wide but I you see a lot of games that are one score with five minutes left and that's where the head coach who essentially is in charge of all the game management stuff obviously has people helping him out but like it's on him to call the timeout it's on him to give the offensive coordinator the thumbs up to go for it or to punt and that could be the difference of nine and eight might not make the playoffs and if he would have made a more aggressive decision could have been pen wins and that's where Eber Flo would come under I like I said I think they are equally they go hand inand I I don't think you can separate the two forget what the calendar says football season is right around the corner and that means best ball week at DraftKings isn't far behind here's what you need to know 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use the code John that's code JN for all customers who enter the NFL beste ball 15 millionaire contest to get a bonus ticket only during beste ball week only on draft King Easier for DBs to convert to WR or vice versa? question for the summer mailbag is it easier for DBS to convert to wide receiver or vice versa who has the advantage in prep and film study curious from a former Scouts perspective I think it would be easier to take a raw athlete if he has decent hands because you can't play wide receiver if you can't catch in the old adages a lot of DBS are just failed wide receivers look at Richard Sherman now Richard Sherman has pretty good hands and has good ball skills but why Richard Sherman was a great defensive back honestly were two things one his instincts were Elite and you can't teach instincts I don't believe like instincts as a defensive back for good defensive backs are something you have or you don't have and the other thing like do a lot of wide receivers could they make the transition and be great tacklers you know Richard made the transition in Stanford and it became You could argue the greatest tackling the most physical corner or one of them in the history of the league so can you tackle you have to be able to tackle because the Run game you have to be able to tackle you don't need to be Ray Lewis but you have to be able to tackle but number one is you have to be able to play the ball in the air because you are not looking at the ball the wide receiver is is and your instincts when the ball is in the air so I I think it is much more difficult to go from wide receiver to defensive back because if you have no instincts you can't play the position where if your hands are just decent and you can run you're an elite athlete like I can teach you to run routes and then we can work on your hands obviously if you have stone hands you got no shot someone asked me once on the on a DM I don't think I ever responded to it like how did a how did uh n deima fall off so badly and I said one when we signed him it was clear right away his athleticism was not what it used to be so he was a diminishing athlete he had some of the worst hands I've ever seen I mean there are there were dudes on our sideline that were Scouts that had better hands Nami asima had stone hands but you don't need good hands to play DB if you're long and you can deflect the ball obviously you would like him like pick guys off like Rivas or Deion Sanders or whatever Champ Bailey you don't need them though like teams will live with pbus all day long I don't care if you drop every interception you've ever had as long as the ball does not get completed but you have to play the ball in the air and one thing with you can get by at wide receiver without being an elite athlete if you're a great route Runner and you can get open it is very very difficult in especially if the scheme is going to ask you to play man-to-man defense to get by without being a high-end athlete because you're just going to be on an island and look at all the wide receivers in the NFL most of them are really good athletes so you have to be able to run you have to be able to mirror the guy you have to be able to change direction you have to be able to turn and you don't know what's coming like the receiver knows what's happening you don't you may have a good educated guest based on film study based on the defensive call based on your preparation but you still don't actually know so I I would say it's much easier let me see your exact question it's easier for a why it's easier for a DB to convert to wide receiver than it is for a wide receiver to convert to DB would be would be my professional opinion it's hard to do either I mean both at the NFL level it's it's Titans decision not to trade Derrick Henry hard can you weigh in on this I'm a Titans fan and it was just reported that we turned down a fourth round pick at the deadline from the Ravens for King Henry I go on Twitter and fans are outraged I completely understand that you knew you were going to lose him for nothing so get anything you can however in my opinion you don't trade Legends for fourth round picks I hate the double standard of how fans want every pictor in the draft and trade all your pickster in the season what's your opinion yeah I mean I I think because he signed a pretty good deal they're going to end up getting a comp pick that might be a fifth or sixth round pick what the hell's the difference right the Ravens were in the AFC Championship game so that picks at the end of the fourth round it's essentially a fifth round pick uh I don't think it's that big a deal if you didn't want to trade him to me once you get him the second day I'd say that's kind of uh gross negligence but when you're talking a fourth round pick from the Ravens what pick is that like 140 130 something in in that range I I don't think I don't think it's that relevant I I don't think it matters that much either way and like you said Rabel will still get there that was his guy I I'm I'm fine with not trading him Sports betting advice hey John congrats on the engagement appreciate it question for the mailbag I'm thinking of getting into sports betting any suggestions where to start what type of bets who to follow listen to for advice bet sizing any info would help obviously gambling at any level I went went to Harvey's the other night cuz we went to Lisa Vanderpump's restaurant it's called wolf it's actually Elite I I've watched a little of Vander pump last year by no means do I really care that much it's kind of entertaining then it got really drama filed and I'm like I can't even follow this I will say this about a restaurant in Harvey's State Line in Lake Tahoe restaurant is really really good well it's in the casino so it's like well I I've just been the last three or four times I obviously gamble a lot on Golf and during the football season and I used to gamble a ton on Blackjack and the older I've gotten I like playing a roulette a little bit but Blackjack I have just lost so like when Vegas for the uh for the Super Bowl I lost like five grand before he could even blink so it's like you know it would have been impossible in my younger days to go through a casino and play Blackjack without taking out I don't know four figures and just getting aggressive but I was like you know what I'll take out a couple hundred bucks I'll play if I I actually got up immediately doubled and I couldn't walk away she was looking at me like why don't you walk away I'm like I don't really walk away it's why the casino usually takes my money but it didn't even matter I just I took out 250 bucks gambled it was up a little bit down a little bit it was just kind of enjoyable 30 minutes and I think you have to have when you're going to gamble I don't it it's relative to how much money you have to some people a $100 bet is a lot to some people $100 bet is nothing and $5,000 bet is a lot so you have to pick amount you're comfortable with losing and when you do that just start off with not that much take you know if you can't afford it couple hundred bucks and bet like $25 on a couple games and if you win it keep letting it ride and if you lose it bet the next week right but just pick a number that you can afford put a little action on it see how you feel and if you feel like I feel it'll be a feeling that you'll keep chasing the rest of your life if you don't like it then don't do it but you know if you're I don't know how old you are uh I do my gambling obviously on DraftKings I just do it online it's really easy but I I would say bet something that you're comfortable with doing early on don't try to get crazy aggressive uh and I would just when football season starts bet a couple games put 25 bucks put 50 bucks on a game or two see how you like it if you hate it stop if you like it do it more football's pretty easy you bet the point spread that's what I would do so minus three plus three plus six plus whatever pick the team you like bet the point spread bet a little bit of money question for the mailbag what should the Will Vikings trade Jordan Addison? Vikings do about Jordan Addison he's clearly valuable but report Le the teams the team is very frustrated with him after his incident well it wasn't wasn't really an incident uh wasn't he a sleep at the wheel wasted I would say that's a little more than an incident there's of this is like parents when a young player or a young kid gets in trouble who you value a lot obviously when you're parent like you can't trade your kid but in the Viking situation they just trapped him in the first round and you watched him last year he's pretty freaking good he had an incident a DUI that's more than embarrassing it's it's just an awful look and he's going to get suspended more than likely so when the team is frustrated or disappointed like of course they are but like they're not trading him because Jordan Addison when you're a really good wide receiver and you were draft in the 20s you're one of the best values in the league so listen I I think you just let him know this is unacceptable like this can't happen you're rich now bro if you're super was said get an Uber get a car like you don't need to be you don't need to be cruising do you think the Jets chaotic front office Jets front office is lowkey kind of glad Rogers is stirring up controversy and skipping mini camp and the Devonte Adams teaser take some of the spotlight off that clown Fiesta of a front office and how truly moronic it was to trade for a player you don't want to pay what he's asking which is why hoe and the Eagles let him go in the first place yeah man I they can't be not thrilled uh if this if the Cowboys you know the Jets are so chaotic that their headlines people are so numb to now it's why I don't even think it's a story I mean it's obviously a story but we've had this information for a while I I don't know what anyone expected to change if they're not going to pay him but if if Jerry had done this if KY Shanahan had done this think of some of the teams if they had done this if Hoy had been on the other side they they would get crushed if bich when he was around had done this you'd be like what are you [ __ ] doing I I I I can't fathom you don't get sympathy or anyone that doesn't call you a [ __ ] for buying something or acquiring something that you no needs to be fixed when you have no intention on fixing it which it clearly feels like the Jets like just thought that he would eventually be like yeah I'm cool with playing on my contract even though all I keep saying is I'm not man circus part of it they need him you know they just lost one of their better pass rushers last year the Eagles like he's kind of important it's why they traded for NFL locker room dynamics him I'm curious if big contracts ever become the elephant in the room when teams are having a bad season and high paid players underperform do players call each other out in the locker room or coaches make comments in meetings or just taboo topic I can't you know I never played in the NFL so I I can't pretend to know the locker room Dynamics but these are humans so the amount of effort and time that guys put in that to me it's one thing if you're just playing bad because you're banged up totally understand but if you're a high price player and you're playing bad and it's like yeah I don't think he's working that hard I think he got fat this offseason he wasn't ready at the start of the Season then yeah I would imagine that's when fight happens fights happen and this is not the uh these other leagues man these coaches the position coaches talk [ __ ] non-stop 247 365 so if you're a high pric player and you're underperforming as an O lineman as a d lineman as a wide receiver coach as a running back obviously depends who your POS some position coaches are less confrontational than others but if you have a confrontational position coaches that guy's going to light you up like a Christmas tree your coordinator if he's confrontational and obviously the head coach they're going to be in you 247 365 this is not the NBA where coaches just everything's just rainbows and lollipops you know it's like I'm not allowed to yell at you you get yelled at constantly starting in high school football through college football through the NFL and the moment you get paid which is an awesome accomplishment the expectations rise and when you don't perform especially if your team's losing it gets ugly and it gets ugly fast and depending on who your coach is like I said the hierarchy the head coach the coordinator the position coach those are long days man and you better start performing and part of it gets back to are you not performing because you have a high ankle spray and you're battling through it they know like totally understandable but are you not performing because you don't know the Playbook or you're out of shape or you just don't care that much that's where when you cross that line it's a war zone and you deserve it because I don't care what industry you're you you know you work in when you get paid a lot of money expectations are high and it's on you to give everything you have and that's all any of us can ever do is give 100% effort right if you're not good enough you're not good enough it's Pro Sport sometimes you get beat tip your hat right but are you giving Max effort if you are I think they understand that doesn't mean they still push you but when you start checking some of those other boxes then you got serious problems on your hands and that's why you have so much turnover in the NFL because you don't have much time there there are there just aren't really Scholarships in the NFL clearly I mean look at some of these massive contracts in recent years that have been traded Russell Wilson Matt Ryan and those are quarterback contracts which are way bigger than all these other position so yeah man I I just it's tough if you're playing well you're G to get yelled at in football no matter what I got yelled at constantly as a scout it's it's a high contentious lot of testosterone lot of ego lot of money everyone's [ __ ] on edge and that that's if you're doing well you start doing poorly buckle up because it is a long season for everyone involved uh good questions