Irrelevance In The Dungeon Ep. 18 ft. Carrie Coyner, Tony Vaughan, Archie & Pook D

Intro snuff Magee and Friends African friends developers in a dungeon episode 18 Wow a old soul she really showed sizing up on it when I know yeah she said it did a gangster I guess I really don't know man you know Latino gangster but I'll go with that [Laughter] McGee Joey by Sam and I wrote up keyboard carry coiner poopy alright how y'all doing how was your week oh he's great no doubt before we are dive into a reverence in the dungeon let's um I have apple juice yeah this this is an unofficial unofficial commercial going on right now but this is like the best apple juice I've ever had in my life it's very small it's like a shot I want everybody to get a sip oh I want to know if you know if I'm speaking of truth on it oh man this thing is good it was on it was apple juice no every once awhile as things would be a dollar tree for a brief period of time I was idolatry yeah but you know when they have it it sells quick I see maintenance material I know right but now they have the bigger bottles I'm actually doing a commercial that's crazy but they have they have the bigger bottles at like Publix and Kroger whatever and it's uh these ended Marty Martinelli's yes apple cider of so in 1890 somebody was drinking this 1890 I went to restaurant Depot and I gotta I got the 24 pack yeah but if you get into 24 is actually the wholesale price or whatever made you decide to try it the first time glad it was on mo had got it and I was you know I was skeptical I was like what's this you know I did when I drink I drink you know I was this little ass bottle juice you know I'm doing that they're not drinking I was like you know I want some more it was as like that yeah especially the the packaging the glass like it doesn't look like it fits in the doll the tree of yard yeah that's why I Claude Claude comment I posted by today a collab was like anything to glass you know it's gonna be good yeah but it's pretty good Martinelli's um I just did unofficial you know I let me if you ever watch irrelevance in advance but a let me introduce our special guest tonight miss Carrie hi everybody she's running for House of Delegates 62nd district and that district includes what areas the entire city of El Alamein on in Chester and Chesterfield and a very small portion of Prince George okay which parts of Chesterfield so it's all of Etan which is where I grew up and Chester so if you go all the way up brainers Bridge Road one side of the road there and then you come up Salem up that way Ceylan Church and you come back around so I think Thomas deals in a little burn high schools around now I'm how many districts are you in the home Chesterfield ooh you know um there are five Magisterial District some Chesterfield okay no is it still like with the Bermuda district and Bermuda ideal metallica and you have clever Gelman lúthien okay okay okay why so big and from a talk ain't even my token yeah like clover yeah you can fit all of in Rankin County inside Metallica desert and Chesterfield how crazy is that well they attacked at one time anyone is they wanted to build an area like going to Harrogate in like Motoko mega size but people were complaining about that what are you trying to go to solar panel mom it was a solar panel farm there yeah I think you're trying to put a solar panel farm in that area right now yeah solar panels can't afford it I wish I did I would say if I was saying what I don't build it so when it was Election Day November 5th yes big day working hard towards it and what party are you running with I am running with the Republican Party Republican Party okay and what makes you want to run um I actually started on the school board so I've been serving on the chest over County school board for the last eight years and what made me run for that about 15 years ago my husband died we knew dr. Chesterfield we gotten started with church mission work in our community we were volunteering out in the community areas or there'd been some gang presents and other violence going on and I just felt like people in power or within the school division weren't listening to ways that the community could work with schools to do better for our kids and so I decided to run for that seat when it came up in and have been there for the last eight years and I've loved it okay that's great and you said you worked for Chesterfield as well I don't mean Chesterfield yeah so I haven't in long practice I've been there 15 years now and my law office is right near the district County Courthouse area and so I do a lot of small business law so I help people start limited liability companies and corporations and partnerships filed for all your licenses in order to get your business going you know a lot of the day-to-day tasks that you need legal assistance with and then I also do some real estate law as well okay I love what I do you love everything I definitely hasn't quite remember I got with you at the own we met at bowling after dark in Hopewell you know she could dance she was actually she was actually show's second time okay we were in the kitchen I didn't see you I was working the front desk checking people in okay but I got my dance on my double dutch line yeah she was she was showing us she was showing us yeah she was showing out right doesn't feel the same at almost 40 as torna I'll be honest so what is the name of the business with this mobile business Delon Rudy coiner attorneys-at-law is the name of my law firm and use that 15 years 15 years I've been there oh so where'd you go to school for long I went to university of return for Law School and I went to UVA undergrad okay so what did you major UVA I was a US government and Spanish language double major so I kind of stumbled into the Spanish language major I had had a lot of AP class credits from high school in Spanish I've loved my Spanish teacher she was just full of joy and a lot of good you know mm-hmm well I am like my Spanish teacher [Laughter] I ain't up I'm just really enjoying the department like the professors at UVA in the Spanish Department or the coolest like folks around class outside so I stumbled into it you must be a great school my cousin like she she just took her bar there's a on Monday she's moving she they just moved to Philly she's going to work with the district attorney and filling Wow if she could the job and do the job what does she you don't exactly spear in the day right now you can ask her like Oh heart work no no man she went to Tennessee after she went to a school in Tennessee when she took the law well University of Tennessee oh I think so cuz it was in Nashville they lived in Nashville a Fanny Vanderbilt or not it's probably Vanderbilt so tell us about the Carries Nonprofits nonprofit organizations yeah so I about stuff that I do with them yeah so I do a lot of volunteer work so I work in the community getting folks connected to schools there's a lot of what I do mm-hmm um so I work a lot with churches and nonprofits and groups to partner with our schools to get involved so we can support our kids more so a really great nonprofit I've worked with over the years is Greater Richmond fit for kids they're actually in Hopewell schools I was actually in my district was one of the first schools that they partnered with that Bellwood elementary school and so it what they do they really encourage children to learn to move during the day you know movement is a lifestyle it's not something you go to PE class and you do for that class we should be moving constantly to stay healthy so they teach kids and teachers how to move in the classroom and learn through movement so that you're getting your exercise in they also really work hard to change the culture of the school about drinking or water instead of sugary drinks and healthier foods and it's a lot of culture change in the schools so it's a great program they have learning gardens where kids learn where your food comes from like your favorite apple juice I got other people doing a plug down please I'm when I was in kiddin God made taught us how to make applesauce did they do that with child in kindergarten yeah I was asleep we peeled apples we borrowed them miss muslimah I guess they blended him up mm-hm and then they added the brown sugar and the sugar to me actually when I was uh one of my previous employees I would call them out Widow I worked in Community Affairs and visit the school in Los Vegas and they actually did the community gardens for those of you which is even more amazing because you you know in Las Vegas and you have a lot of water so they actually had a irrigation company donate the system has actually helped with the garden it's pretty old man to see kindergarteners and first graders actually learn how to you know do gardening it's pretty cool so it's a good tool and good lesson to learn early on I feel bad because I think when I was in Vegas the last thing I thought about was water okay I got a real good I have water quite a bit for work man but oh that's that's a beautiful thing I think Vegas again oh my god I guess I guess we can run out there but uh three kids yes Mary Carries Family Hanabi me we have been married what 2004 so we've been over 15 years Wow yeah surround the time tell you 30 oh yeah times are back soon but that's what we do now yeah and three kids our oldest who is going into seventh grade middle school boys is rough I'm from a I am from a household of all girls some be honest I only had sisters I'm not raising two boys life is different yeah my middle school boys are a little rough yeah I got one going to middle school it issues oh it changes ok go man and they are the same kid and then it's like December of 6 green something happens be prepared I was not prepared prepared be ready like beaver hair is a problem child either one is like with me being the middle child will say that you know somebody else tough is true you know I used to fight a lot we could knock-down drag-out fight ok yeah mainly over clothes like you know you're looking for that shirt you really like and you know what I close for all 18 months apart oh yeah you know you be looking for something you underwear out and you know they took it oh man that is crazy what about bathroom time we did not have any know my husband he grew up with all sisters and when he when they asked the pastor asked why he chose me to marry marry him number one reason because I could get ready faster than any other girl not talk to my son I see that's the reason you won't marry look for that cuz he's gonna long time waiting for the bathroom when he was growing up because the only I met you dance to punish him - they probably beat him I had a buddy man yet all sisters he said they used to beat him up and put them in the closet and make him stay there mama call my home and sit over the door I'm like get out don't tell mama nothing person summer was like around 11 years old my cousin was there you know my sister was wrestling as she bawled me up under the sink and everything Mike come look at him yeah we used to pick on our sister a lot and I mean that's what made it tough man cuz you know my little brothers our youngest but like she's tough man and you know the thing about having sisters made no matter how would I get I still like pick out her you know I'm saying just to get a rise out of can you still get a rise oh I'm good I get a rise out anybody oh I know I'm a button-pushing what's the difference where they take your brother which get with the House of House of Delegates Delegates a 62nd district now what is what does that job in - so you're representing your community as a voice at the state and decisions being made at the state level so you're advocating for your community and you know taking their voice for those decisions so it only needs it's meant to be a citizen led legislature right it's not a full-time job you want people who are in your community you just have other jobs and things going on represent you so we're fortunate that the capital is here in Richmond so you can go home your family and I eat but their folks you know who come in and have to stay and make this home for the time that they're in town so it's important thing for our community to have a voice I love representing the community in Chesterfield for school issues mm-hmm and public education is really important to me so it's one of the cornerstone things that I really want to go and advocate for our community at the state so with with you being in Chesterfield obviously you talked about Bellwood earlier Bellwood has your own school calling creepella means going to here around school um like what is your what is your opinion on that you know you advocating for more schools to develop that hope being your district because well if you to win they're going to year-round schools so do you see this becoming eventually more schools or do you think it's pockets where it you know it works based on you know the demographic and so forth in school I'm a big believer that community should decide what they want for education in their community and so you know hope well as the community decided this is what they wanted to try Bellwood as a community decided they wanted to try it all in Creek I don't believe the state should come in and say everybody has to go do this because every community is unique and different and what what the needs are are different from community community so I am a big fan of you around school um my kids her in his skull that was your own school I think it does a lot in terms of teacher morale bellwood has really really high teacher morale after last year because just when you're at your point where you break you get one versus in the regular school year you don't you have to keep working past that so teacher morale is really high kids are excited to go back to school they have a six-week break in the summer and then they go back and they're there for nine weeks and they get a three week break it allows us you know right now the way the school year set up if you fall behind your only chance of catching up is in summer school I've been repeating verses in this model if we know you're behind and it's only been nine weeks we can catch you up and you get right back on track the rest of your me and so it's it is a good model but it's not something that I would say we should impose on you know everyone that it should be community parents kids teachers talking about it I say it like Thomas said it is starting like you said with a fallen creak and a bell whatever and like in the I guess you could say the urban with the urban schools if you look in Chesterfield which the schools that have a more you know a demographic that shades more Hispanic african-american in those schools so you know it seems like it correlates to those psycho populations because historically those have been the students that those type of schools that have more of what diverse population have seen this struggle more mm-hmm and so I understand it but I I wanted to hear your perspective on it well interestingly enough Bellwood Elementary was not a struggling school yes very diverse school community but very successful they've actually been national winners of awards for being one of the best title one schools for me what I see in areas where we have a lot of lower-income families where they don't have the flexibility because often parents are working multiple jobs to be able to go on vacations or go visit museums and go do things their kids don't get some of the same experiences that it's not about falling behind it's what makes you excel ahead of other people so what I think will be interesting to watch with delwyn because their kids were already successful is to see if maybe this year-round model where they were successful but just average in terms of tests and grades and things if we start to see their kids pull apart what you typically don't see from lower-income areas you typically see that they either stay stagnant or behind in terms of test scores so I think Bellwood it's gonna be one to watch Pauline Creek to it's always done really well see what happens after they've had it for a while see if we have more gifted students identified because they're able to use this portions of their brain that those gifted skills come from so that's what I think is gonna be cool to watch to see if those kids get ahead so do you think is the test run for the county as a whole just starting with those two schools as a pilot and so we're seeing how it goes they did great in terms of test scores aren't everything but their test scores were great teacher morale we do surveys to see how teachers are feeling was really high parents are happy so it went really well Bellwood was the first one last year so fallen creek in Bellwood started two weeks ago they went back to school so they were already back in full swing of regular school year now with you working for the school board the teacher morale why was it so low it wasn't low but it's higher now so what teachers would tell you is that they felt like they could have a period of rest when they needed it they also felt like they had time to plan it and sort of reset if things aren't going well and the way they were teaching the lesson because you know not all kids learn the same way so you have a brand-new group of kids you need time to reset well how do I want to rethink teaching this it gave them the time and flexibility to do it and teachers love what they do and want their craft to be the best and time is important for them so it gave them more time so I think that's why we saw an increase in folks who were happy about the new schedule okay oh I see I saw in high school for three years that was my first job out of college and one of the things one of the reasons I left teaching was around the whole you know teaching to the test and I felt like that was too much of a focus and we didn't actually weren't teaching the kids we're just teaching them answers to put on the test so like what are your thoughts on you know the whole Sol thing and in schools you know we've seen a lot particular I think of Richmond somebody was suing the school was because they felt they got fired for trying to teach to the test and and so forth so like what's your whole opinion on you know at the standardized testing being used as the the the way that we grade schools so with my House of Delegates race one of my top platforms is education reform and one of them is raising our teacher pay to at least or above the national average for about ten thousand dollars behind in Virginia the national average but the second is to eliminate Sol testing yeah it's some you know if you look at you know my my kids go to a title on elementary school about 40% of the students speak English as a second language right so my kid they are in third grade and everybody starts third grade they're not all at the same level yeah we give everybody the exact same test well my kid who started ahead he didn't have a full year's worth of growth right and the students who started way behind they could more than a year but they still didn't pass that test and you know I really hope that as a state we get to a point where we're individually assessing kids growth and we say every kid we assess at the beginning the year where you are and our expectation is a year's worth of growth where you are and if we want more than a year if you're behind and we want more than a year's worth of growth then your teachers should say these are the resources I need to speed that up and we give the teacher those and if we don't then we shouldn't hold a child and teacher to a failure because we didn't give them what they needed to get more than a year's worth of growth so that's my hope is that I can go and advocate as a parent I don't think we have enough parents at the state level as elected officials to have kids in school some older folks so I'm hoping to go and bring that voice I have to own it reach kids and have a middle school-aged kid and I really want to go and speak up for families okay and you say you're Republican vs Democrat running for as a Republican I am and I don't know what the Republican Democrat thing for somebody who's not informed what is the difference what is the difference well you know I really believe that it's important that we're fiscally responsible and that we're really helping people become independent I'm a big believer in the ministry work that I've done really helping people get where they can provide the things that they want for their family and that we're not constantly going in and giving people things that then make it where they're not able to do it themselves so I spend a lot of time talking about economic justice so looking at where are we putting jobs where are we allowing people to live through housing a lot of the decisions that are made on where jobs are located where people can live or there's transportation where there is our decisions that we all have to make so those are all things when you look at from our from our for my perspective the Republican perspective ensuring that folks have the ability to provide for themselves and move up and that we have a system that encourages and allows you to do that if that's what you want to do also ensuring that we're looking at and protecting everybody's individual rights it's really important so those are some of the things I've been a really sinner based leader in the community so I bring a lot of people together which I think we've sort of lost sight of the fact that we're all more meant to disagree right like our government was founded on us disagree yeah but how do we do that in a way that's productive and treats each other with respect and dignity and we figure out how to compromise right it's almost like compromise that's become a dirty word like you don't agree with it that's really you know and then we have to be enemies and you know if you compromise you're not good enough but you know we were that's part of how we're meant to work together is figure out okay you want X and I want Z and how do we get to a point where we're somewhere where we can we can do that so it was yeah it wasn't an attack it's just you know like you say is it we can disagree but come to a compromise but you know with a lot of politics and a lot of conversations amongst people it's more like a divide you know that's why I wanted it you know to have the - you know it's important and especially when you look at you know I tell folks all the time it's funny when you look at what really drives you and for me my faith is really what got me into public service to begin with and I do believe if you know we're you know whose you are and where you're called to be then point you in the era you know where you're going so I spent a lot of time like that's what got me started in public service and I just love people so if you're from a place that you love people it's hard to not listen and feel good about being a relationship with folks and doing right by them so yeah let's open up the floor anybody have any at republican-democrat questions why did this to notice two parties there's a lot of parties out there there's the green party yeah Tea Party libertarian Republican Democrat or they just you know their own actual I think the Green Party's his own party where's the green party party more about environmental the green green reform or what isn't yeah the Tea Party is an actual like party party yeah it was like you see both parties the Tea Party zone is announces like eighteen eighteen sixties like our apple juice age there's a lot of bottles out of small bottles for money later you know with you being a Republican you know obviously there's a lot of when you think about national politics so as you're knocking on doors we you know when you go into the more urban areas in your district that you're campaigning in are you knocking you say I'm Kerry you know Republican like what's your message to someone that you know obviously doesn't agree with you know the overall direction of the Republic Republican Party when you think of the president is so forth like what's your message to say yes that is happening but this is why you should vote for me yeah well you know I I tell him often like I chose to murder my husband cuz I think we think like on those things but we still disagree when I come on he didn't agree with me on a lot of stuff right so you know it's okay to not agree with even within your own party with everything everyone else says or does you know like I said we're meant to be will disagree with one another but come together on things to move forward on issues that are important so that's been what I've really spent a lot of time talking to people about you know I want you to believe in me I want you to get to know me and I want you to be able to have a relationship with me and to know where I'm coming from and I'm from the community I was raised here you know choosing to raise our kids in the same community and I love it and so that's why I've spent a lot of time a lot of front-porch time I'm just letting people get to know my heart and where where I'm coming from so and being willing to say we don't want to have to agree with everybody on things and and you're not an enemy because you disagree on something so it's gone pretty well do you see it being harder from the climate Carries Party did I guess that your party is in do you think it's harder to get across to you I think it's hard to be in politics in general right now I mean what I've heard from most people they're like you're such a nice person why are you doing this I mean that's what I mean if you want to ask like that people like me and you're a good person you ever get why are you getting in this mm-hmm and I think we need good people to step up you know when you see people unable to talk to another or treat each other respectfully you know we need folks to come together who want to work hard to make our communities better and may disagree on things but we can figure that out yeah and so you know I'm hoping lots of other strong good people voices are also there that we can work together on so yeah so I got a question on Carrie since well you're running to be a delegate but Carries Voice you know say Frances you know you are the delegate and you know yeah speaking into existence here with your fine yeah [Laughter] no like um so how do you get you know your constituents as far as what you want or what they want to vote on you know what I mean like how do you compile that into like okay now I'm gonna Capitol and it's at the things that are argue for or you know get passport yeah so I've spent a lot of time I knock a whole lot of doors every week but I've also been so involved in the community for so long I think you're able to be a voice when you spend more time listening and so you know I look at the vast majority of my just district for the House seat is Chesterfield and I've spent tons of time like there isn't a neighborhood I go in where I don't know people I can't walk through and talk to kids and parents and I spent a lot of my time when I got on the school board really working hard and our mobile home park communities in particular because there are a lot of Latino families there that didn't have a voice and building relationships there so I think the way you you decide all right what do you take up as an issue is you spent the time with people not out asking for votes yeah but the time that you've spent attending balling after dark or you know going to churches and visiting with people and I've just been really involved in lots of places I tell people all the time the way they've built our height our highway networks we don't have to go into other communities we get to avoid it and so I've spent my time intentionally coming into places that isn't my path from my house to work my house to my church right and so I think if we all did more about getting out of our typical pathway of the people we run across I think we'd all be better as leaders because there's lots of leaders like we have so many folks doing amazing work in the community and I think they're doing great work because they've gone out and listened to people what they need like following after dark great like they went out and we're like all right we need activities to get kids off the street at night what does that look like so yeah I think that's how you do it how would how is house been reached how's the reception being particularly you know when you get into Carries Reception those the the eastern part of Chesterfield with more Hispanic populations like how has been the the response to you you know when you say again thinking about what the National Party is doing when it comes to talking to those you know those that net population of people about your stances and so for because I feel like you know it may be a little bit of fear when it comes to you know how you know something stance that the National Party takes when it comes to immigration reform and so forth I think because they've seen me all the time in their community it's not it's not a fear that's there because I've spent so much time you know I started a Learning Center in one of the mobile home parks so that moms could learn English so they could help their own kids with homework we still help do homework tutoring but you know I'm again that belief that independence right so we keep coming in and tutoring your kids for you even though it's a mom you'd probably like to read to your kid yourself so if we never teach the moms who are here how to read they're never going to go to read to their kids so those are things that I've been able to work in communities and help get programs started I do a lot of literacy out in the community to help build up English skills and so I think just because they've seen me you know they never seen you and you know they only see national news right yeah it but because we have relationships I'm big on relationships if you have if you really know people you know what their needs are you know how to lead and how to serve and so yeah you can come hang out with me sometime I might think that that literacy piece is so big because what I've seen is super take me for four Hispanic kids they often time you see the kids teaching the parents how to speak English so I think it's great that you guys actually getting in there and really seeing that is a part of actually helping them to to assimilate into you know the society because you know we do speak English oh and just to help them kind of get to that place I think is great something I found that is really helpful um we do a lot we're trying to get a lot more preschool education out into the community and so I really started giving out bilingual preschool books because then the moms can see the Spanish words that they know and see the English words that they don't know and they start to learn them too right bye-bye seeing them side by side so bilingual preschool books are a huge help in the communities and we know that early education is so important and so building up those skills early on is important as well okay I have a quick question home in the hautboy area that's a lot of Community Work Nonprofits homeless in Hopewell and you know it's not really spoken off like what can be done with I mean I don't know how to act and ask this question or whatever but how what can be done with that situation now I know that you said that you can help people start a non-profit so you know the ins and outs with that yeah and there is somebody I know who is actually helping to feed the homeless or whatnot but they don't have their own nonprofit and I told them that you know if they if they were to get that they can get you know backing from so um out doing community work is great but if you really want to be able to apply for grants or get funding from different agencies you need that nonprofit status and it's not as complicated as people think it is it's a pretty simple process so you know I'm happy to help connect folks to get all that paperwork done and dot's as well so as complicated as people think but it really opens the door to allow you to serve more so it's not for everybody right some people are perfectly content with what they're doing yeah that's the thing with the people were yeah I think they are you know content with their doing D like you know the behind the scenes you know just doing standing their own name because sometimes when you get involved with different organizations or whatever that everybody doesn't have the same heart you know but like you have your thing and you love what you do and sometimes if it grows too much right it loses what you loved about it and why you initially got involved in it so it's a hard decision yeah I would say that I mean I'm not a party affiliate of anybody like it Republican Democrat independent Microeconomics I got my own opinions on all of them but yeah I have a thing is it all yeah yeah but you know I I do agree as far as you know you know picking your own self up and being an individual you know being independent that way so I'm more of a fan of microeconomics when it comes to you know just concentrating on you and your family and you know your financing and literacy and all that and that's eventually like you know that's gonna lead to an old successful macro economy but I don't need to be focused on that and I just need to be focus on the things that I could control and when it comes to like nonprofit I feel like that you know it should be you know we should go at it that way instead of like that's great feeding the homeless that's great but if I'm not teaching you how to feed yourself right then what am I really doing for you I'm enabling you to continue to be homeless have you read the book toxic charity it sounds like a great book to read it off so can I leave homework when I leave that's a teacher I knew it was so there's a book called toxic charity and the gentleman you wrote it used to be part of I won't say what it is you'll have to read it a nonprofit group but he realized that they were actually creating a toxic place through their charity where people were unable to move up or to be successful like they were creating a toxic environment by what it was kind of what you were saying like why not teach them money too and so that's the book is a study of it and so it's really meant to be a reflection for churches for nonprofits for organizations to really rethink your ministry work are you really serving in the best possible way so we started working several years ago there was a group of churches that started studying toxic charity mm-hmm and they moved in the direction of what they call asset based Community Development which actually started in I think Chicago I'm not don't I think I'm almost positive but what it does is rather than go in and you as the nonprofit say well I think what you need is food so we're gonna come in and every week we're gonna feed you guys instead you take a step back and you figure out what are the assets within the community and then those assets develop into alright who has what skill sets within the community that we can build from right and then that becomes the building block of success for the community so it's asset based Community Development rather than people from outside you weren't part of the community constantly pushing stuff in that goes away when you leave you sit alongside the people who live in the community to figure out what assets are within this community zone and then how do we help you build off of that and so it's a more sustainable and it includes the people who live in the community versus from the outside saying well here let's come in and give you all this stuff and then we're going back to our houses or we live yeah so it's a different model but if you read that toxic charity I encourage all nonprofits and community organizations to look at it and not only you know the nonprofit's are soon I always tell people when you Toxic Charity you donating money like understanding where your money's going when I worked in Community Affairs like one of the things when nonprofits would come to us and ask for money like we do dig we do our due diligence to understand ok this is where we want the money to go we want to come and see it we want to understand exactly what you know what your nonprofit is about and understand the people that are working in the communities that you're serving because you'll find a lot of times they're not profitable money's going to ping and it's charity I mean paying salaries it is not actually reaching the people that you that they're supposedly trying to help it goes on a lot so people should be aware of where you're donating your money and where where it's actually going is it really getting to the people that you're trying to help yeah I think I think I think the government put systems out there to keep you keep you Welfare down to slight welfare and in being on section 8 I think that welfare and section 8 should be a timed program if you don't welfare I think you should only be on it for three years and then what you die no I think I think if you if you handicapped or disabled I think you should be able to be on it but if you're not I think that the government should give you a program in a pathway to get off of it I think that they should need to give you some kind of training or schooling that will get you in the process of getting a full-time job so you don't have to be on you know it's interesting though if you look at so I do a lot of ministry work on Jeff Davis corridor it's the poorest most low-income area of Chesterfield and you look at what gets people in the worst living conditions possible and the commute what got you there and almost all the time it's bad credit it's bad credit and the and you know if you look at if we really wanted to and I tell government this all the time if government really wanted to help people you would help credit council people back to better credit because then you have choices right your choice has become limited through bad credit education right because a lot of people yeah especially a minority we are not taught how not to use credit card so how even having credit cards if you get over 50% of the balance then it hurts your credit so a lot of people is just misinformed it's kind of like it like you say with the talks of charity things like you're getting the assistance but you're not getting the education yeah and another thing with them even with the mail like let's say you're going through a bad time but then you get in the mail get 15,000 give 10,000 people or the telemarketers calling you all day every day is like people are always trying to get over especially with older people I have even had a guy come through this neighborhood trying to sell on a security system and he said if my security system was out of date or whatever that it was paid for and I was like well where's your card who who do you work for whatever he had no information whatsoever and you know he wasn't gonna get on me but you know it's some older people in our neighborhood yeah something in my yeah they're praying they're preying on people yeah predatory lending you know definitely you know reaches into communities of color exactly because they know that we're not as versed in understanding you know how credit works and I think it goes back to education it's just no I got my first credit card in college because they were giving away nerf basketball yeah oh you know apply and that's like the first time you do be great but you learn about that in cop high school I mean your parents don't know about yeah I think this just started that in school especially you know with the year year-round thing going around you know Piggy Bank you got a teacher man like credit things are really going to matter and when you become an adult yeah you know it's like you got to start young how many y'all had to save me County even get a saving account to UK grow well going back to the school that talked about in Las Vegas they actually had a program called piggy bank what he partnered with a local local credit union and they actually let the kids donate any spare change they had and actually start up a bank account so every week you know it'd be on one day be kindergarten Tuesday first grade and so forth and you'd be able to any loose change you had you'd be able to go and deposit into your savings account and then when you graduated in fifth grade you actually got to check for the amount that was in your savings account and they saw that actually those kids were learning to fill out a deposit slip and so forth before their parents even do it yeah so I mean we definitely dropping a ball as far as teaching financial literacy at an early age so that it becomes a happy yeah doesn't use these empty bottles as piggy banks from the after you drink the apple juice big enough you can put a quarter in she's making it easy for those questions come up with with within the school board with you know more classes pertaining to you know understanding credit and things like that well so a lot of the courses they get approved by the state right so a state makes the decisions on what courses but that's why again when I look at going to advocate at the state level when you look at what is really holding people back it's poor credit and so how do we help fix that right how we fix that for the next generation and then how do we use our current government services right now a lot of people I think are treated as applications right you come in you apply for assistance and then I check the box and you're done versus are we really helping people or they don't have to come back next month and do this again oh yeah let's talk about you know what's causing this you know what happened that got you urine so I think we can start treating people like people and like we would treat our family right we would help our family and don't get thrown the right path I'm gonna start looking at each other that it matters how our neighbors are doing it makes a difference I think that's the difference now then then and back in the day people don't look at each other like family back in the day people want family but they still considered each yeah if you live in a community then you was family if your neighbor down the street seen you're doing something wrong and he whipped you your parents wouldn't go question him they knew that he'd whooped you for a reason [Music] there's a book called our kids are like our children our kids by Robert Putnam he's a Harvard researcher and he did a study like you're saying about back in the day and kids who were from families lower-income families were actually more successful back in the day and it's because our communities were in a tighter Network you may be from a family that wasn't as educated but you went to church or you you know lived within walking distance of people you were and so like you had connections to people who would help you get jobs or you know your first job or help you figure out how to go to school and but now with how we've all become so separate that and we no longer look at children is our children you know and we don't work together you don't you no longer have those societal connections to help one another get jobs and to move up in the world and he did an entire research project studying it and it's really really interesting it really shows you how we need with this technology we need to figure out how to get back to having more relationship stuff I think technology is actually is hurting them as well too you know because a lot of technology is you know a lot of long time you know or even with you when Transit you're with your friends or with your family you know most of the time yeah you know you're looking down you're scrolling you're trying to find out what new can I find out not even saying this is educational it's just you know could be you know drama or you know whatever your kid so my daughter this isn't mrs. her so she'll be walking around the house and her best friend is with her nothing she'll be sitting here just doing nothing and I'm like what are you doing I'm like oh ha peers like time to go to bed she's like all right I'll talk to you later I'm like I need a phone you can do like the FaceTime with more than one person yeah yeah three or four people got a name it's called hmm it's like party line or party parties awesome somebody posted something on like it was like 20 apps that you need to look and see if your kids are using been aware of it because the possibility yeah we talked we talked about neighbors you know obviously you have that you'd be representing that that Jeff Davis corridor right there up against Richmond why doesn't seems like the county has been reluctant to have G RTC actually come into the county and I think that's a big you know that could be a big win it's probably the man so on you know on Jeff Davis to be able to take the bus into the city for more jobs and vice versa so you know are you a proponent of having G RTC come into the county I do you think we need transit options when you look at how large you look at like metallic alright how different in diverse Chester but is you know transit serves a great purpose and our highly trafficked areas like the Jeff Davis corridor where we have our commercial centers are about ten corridor and I was actually just talking with some folks about how what trains it looks like it looks different from location to location they're actually piloting doing transit on Jeff Davis right now so I think it actually started last month so they were doing that on Jeff my boundary ends at Osborne Road so even though my current school board seat goes all the way to say Richmond line the house seat stops at Osborne Road so it doesn't pick up actually the majority of Jeff Davis towards Richmond it goes from Osborne Road and Chester right there all the way to the city of Pohang flange whereas my current school board seat I've always represented the whole corridor and people were really sad they're like we're so sad we're losing you because I've been a pretty big advocate for people in that area but that type of Transportation is extremely important I also you know really encourage folks to look at what opportunities our kids are missing out on by not having after-school activity buses I think that's an area if you if we wanted to look at opportunities for our teenagers how they get to jobs you know if we want them to have internships and jobs after school or play sports or be involved in academics and clubs looking at how we handle transportation after school for that so where's the start in it with the GRCC in on Jeff Davis how far does it go down um I'm the GRCC Board of Supervisors could tell you that I'm not exactly sure it picks up all of Jeff Davis corridor and there's certain locations where they go - now when you say corridor are you saying like right there at 10:00 and 1:00 I don't know where it stops I know I think Jeff Davis starts pretty much at I want to say no the hurry keeps going everywhere but you know I mean you know a corner hides its the boulevard and then it turns into Jeff Davis I know it goes all the way like did you see or whatever I just figure out how to not driving the bus lanes in Richmond yes that's what I was going to get to you gotta know you don't brush me lately there yeah cute on broad now but the thing about it that's what with the GRT you see I think they're really promoting then the new is it GRCC did they call it and I think it's something else or whatever the rapid transit is why they set up Broadway Broadway so you can put the bus stops right on yeah I mean you know high high traffic areas so that people can get in one get off in a bus doesn't have to get off to the side it's right there transit looks different right I mean even with G or TC they have the pulse they have ride finder they have all sorts of different types of transit and I think that's often times we don't we're not willing to sit down and go in the details of what are all the different modes of transportation yeah that serve different types of communities you know and there's some places that would love more bike paths right they don't have a fight time right and so I think again that's a really looking at from community community what are the needs that this community and how do you address it so but you ought to look at it because they just started it now do you talking about bike paths and just a food oh yeah so that is probably one of the most successful things in just roll right now they've been moving ahead on their bikeways and trails plan and that's actually really successful so they've had a lot of new bike paths put in a lot more pedestrian-friendly on roadways so I like it round five I like how raw file has already gonna put a bike trail from Petersburg to the dam yeah the dam in Motoko so yeah I can walk cause yeah that's gonna be crazy it's not hot like where's it gonna start it was gonna be on the side yeah from Patrick all the way to against the dam and over there in front of a church road they're working on it now that's crazy walking this park approved their share of it so yeah they need to pick a road it was coming the day of hope well particularly that right there at 36 right there 295 you got you know at a bowling alley and then you got that calling you colonia corner whatever it is right there no clothes yeah right in front of roses or Romans or whatever deal oh yeah yeah yeah that seems like it's prime for for like redevelopment and it just sits there man like that's like have you seen it I saw I read one article on it they said they were they were going they were going to be moving forward on you mean shopping centers yeah the whole shopping area yeah I thought they said they gave the guy the the landowner it's like either you come up with a plan or we gonna tear it down you gotta tear it down because it just looks bad well they got the little Welcome they put their Welcome Center over there Walmart did like an approach them a couple some years back saying they wanted what the bowling alley like set their price too high why heard that Walmart was coming to hope well but the mom-and-pop stores didn't want to come there so they have voted it down it doesn't matter but I think this lighted it went to the city and the city was like you know day I turned it down or whatnot yes interesting to me did you see one in a poke well like you know down there by like right when you come in for a team like that really did you see they're doing filming walking down the breeze going into Pocahontas tableside how do you looking for extras yeah yeah you could be a Walking Dead zombie I think I'm rock - sure do you think is that too much snow yeah it's nuts ah be out there I don't know they're shutting down on the streets they probably meet because you know their whole show they're traveling around the United States so they only film in Atlanta they only get but so much different looking footage like they probably want it to look like they're traveling around and Plus you know with the downtown hope West kind of like a vintage feel down there to the state gives some pretty good incentives to to to make those filmmakers that come here because they in film quite a few movies in Petersburg and I think homeland was filled with a rich media Revolutionary War yeah old TV show it's like a PBS you know and it was to turn not a show turn turn yeah you know with the battlefield I mean you still have like you said with old town that the antique you know he's where I got so much so much history man so much potential oh it's coming it's coming you've been listen to stuff Maggie and Friends irrelevance in the dungeon