Crack Another Beer Get Fit, Missy Higgins and Chimp Crazy’s Tonia Haddix

Carrie and Tommy about to go off Carrie and Tommy are here to rev up your day just like the Hyundai Tucson hybrid visit he.com or your local showroom [Music] today and if you threw a partyy invited everyone you knew you would see the biggest would be for me and the C would thank you for y ready to get this start got ready to get hey yo hold up stop it's the one and only Carrie big mall and Tony Little [Music] this is Carri and Tommy yes welcome to your Thursday afternoon how we going guys I'm up about massive show today don't we do we've got Missy Higgins on with an incredible performance of her new song we've got the woman at the center one of the biggest shows on TV at the moment uh Tanya hadex is uh the the woman in chimp crazy who owns uh or no longer owns Tonka the chimp famous for many of those movies that Tonka was in yes it is a massive documentary made by the guys who made Tiger King and involves um someone's face getting ripped off by a chimp y she's not been doing interviews she has major issues with how she's represented and we are going to talk to her about that a bit later but I'd like to clear something up I feel like I've been misrepresented I may have misrepresented myself oh are we going from Tiger King to Dutch oven Queen yesterday you asked me if I'd ever dutched doen myself and you confidently looked me in the eyes and said yes no of of course of course I thought a Dutch OV was when you um fed underneath the C why' you whisper farter I didn't realize that it was when you pull the covers up over your head so you can partake in the aroma of that the ovening and my confidence in saying yes of course I have um has left me wildly embarrassed um but I've had DMS from other people that didn't know that Dutch ofen was that either so maybe if you've heard someone say yeah they've dutched D themselves before maybe they haven't maybe they farted under their covers I reckon if you don't know what it is you're probably not using the the the term but I didn't know what it was and I responded to your question other people might respond other people might say what's a dutch oven I should have said what in of course you know when you're a mom and you want to seem like you're up to up to date with all the cool stuff yeah I was trying to ask you the cool stuff hey kids Le what a Dutch J it is today I'm trying to think of more slang ones and the only ones I've got are really I heard it um not Two Dads talking about their children using skibby is that it oh yes on the plane yesterday and even I didn't know I don't know what's give it is no no neither do I Carrie up next um I've got a life milestone MH yep that I'm going to Applause or would you like it up next no I absolutely want it up next we're ready for it okay great carry and Tommy Billy ish that is birds of a feather for you Thursday arvo it's carry and Tommy best song we're playing on radio at the moment Aran do you yep I love it it's a big c and do you know what happens every time I hear it I go oh I love this song who sings that again every single time that's how old I am every single time I have to remind myself that it's Billy I know but we've told you Rihanna's real name I reckon a hundred times what is it yeah Robin right y good stuff um hey Biggers I mentioned to get the Applause ready yes we're ready we've all got the drum kits out we're ready to go um ask me uh would I like an alcoholic beverage what would you like to drink no would I like oh sorry specifically exactly the word pass would you like an alcoholic beverage no thanks I'm sober wow thank you how many days no further questions four a that's awesome thank you Carrie for you that is awesome thank you I agree um how how long is the longest you've spent without a drink if you removed um having being pregnant no I think that's it why can't why do I have to remove that because I want to ask you I want to ask you questions about how it made you feel and obviously pregnancy has a lot of effects on your I was going to say cuz I've spent many many of years pregnantly sober I don't call me it's actually quite hard to do I thought you were going to say the opposite and I was like cool there's so many things that women have to do that men don't not only do we have to get pregnant we then can't drink to get through all the stress of it all you I just keep sipping away the world's on Fair anyway um so in lockdown I went um I I didn't drink second lockdown it was hard and then when she get over the hump it was actually quite fine when did you start feeling better I wake up I felt good in lockdown so does it get better what's point Sorry I think there was a point where suddenly I felt um it became a bit of a competition to me and I was like no I want to I want to keep not drinking see how long I can go um but also I think I had more energy I was less irritable um I just felt better but I can't remember at what point that happened certainly I think it took longer than 4 days yeah yes I'm not seeing any of the benefits so far but I'm still excited how many years to get out of your system nah not many 39 well you didn't drink from birth did you no well not far off why what's the soap the sobriety for um um many reasons one the main one being I've got my first boxing match coming up in8 weeks and I'm going to try and do eight weeks so wow so you're four days into 8 weeks yes and that's why I'm I'm congratulating myself now cuz I don't know if I'll get to 8 weeks and so I thought better get the pat on the backs out of the way y you'll get to eight weeks go to believe in yourself yes what's what are the things you need help with what points do you go to have a drink um give me a scenario and you're like oh how anytime I do a show have you got shows coming up yep oh uh anytime I um go to have dinner yeah you get home after well yeah got dinner most nice well you just have to have something else in your hand I reckon you need something in your hand even if it's a non-alcoholic no or if it's like a like a fizzy drink or something to make you feel like you're drinking something don't you think um yes don't just swap it out for water yeah yeah I mean there's some non-alcoholic beers that are okay but they not your yeah it doesn't it certainly doesn't trick my mind um also here's a strange thing for some reason I can drink um a lot of beers responsibly and not need to pee but non-alcoholic beers you have like three and you're full is that but that's good then maybe you just stop but like how's that magic happen yeah I don't know go to bed earlier too then you the hours are short of the day oh my God is that what you do when you don't drink you just wish away just wish away the hours of day and you just hope tomorrow comes and then you wish that away as well the clarity you get everyone talks about when they fully give up like stop drinking at all that they have Clarity of mind and that they just they that everything's better hey I was going to do um T actually maybe we'll do both I was going to do um some people are ringing in with sobriety tips um I was going to do tips about my fight because I would like to get um boxing tips from people who have never been in a boxing match before I just think that would be fun cuz there's a lot of experts in boxing and so I've got a lot of expert help you want the armchair expert but I want the person who's never been in a boxing match to tis for my first fight and I also takey tips 13160 give a for your Thursday Aro is Carrie bmore and Tommy little and you know what song you're listening out for today for 50k V if you missed it it is Teddy swims lose control could be coming up real soon on you Jesse for giving it out again I know I'm a hero but someone else is a hero too on this team yes you are 4 days sober well done yep I can't honestly look anyone else here in the eyes and have them match me or top me so do you want to know something funny producer Georgia is putting her hands in like what we all went out for dinner uh sash you and I the other night on our work trip and um Sash and I decided we'd be in solidarity with you and not drink you might recall at Din we um all yes it was very nice cuz we wanted to show support yes it was day one what I didn't tell you at the time was um before we all met downstairs I had a bottle of Moy in my hotel oh no Carri you you told us did I tell you it was the first thing you told us I thought I didn't tell you no you told us straight away I saw it in the fridge and I was like well just cuz you're sober doesn't mean that we all actually you're with him and then you're like I'll be in solid with you no I just I actually only had a glass but um it was really lovely on you good day Jody Hi how are you guys yeah pretty good now we are asking for um both boxing um advice from people who have never had a fight and um sobriety tips what have you got for us which one okay float like a butterfly sting like a bee oh okay sorry we did have music prep for that but then I've missed that one that's good for butterflies like could where is that from what about we get a it's Mohamad Ali Muhammad Ali from something it's just from Muhammad Ali let's give you um Rocky music for your sobriety tip my soety tip is there's plenty of apps jump on and they give you motivation and they tell you how many days and all the things that go really well with your body once you're on so yeah there's a tip for you is there one you recommend specifically oh I'm on um clean talk I'm on clean time counter clean time counter how far you up to Jo paron how how long are you up to in Cen toown uh 5 years in October Jody that's amazing thank you how much changed your life Jes oh a lot financially emotionally physically in every aspect my life has changed good on your J done um let's go a robin good day Robin good day have you got a boxing tip for us um yeah I do first of all I just want to say congratulations on your four day soar thank you appreciate that putting this music behind everything makes it more emotional doesn't it uh but I just want to also say beat five years cuz I'm five years sober well done Robin what was the hardest time he wants to know Robin when it'll start feeling good when's the Tipping Point do you think um it doesn't feel good I I wish to go back drinking no but I do it for my wife she doesn't like me to drink so I do it for my wife oh that's lovely Robin why didn't she like you drinking Robin uh I'm a heavy drinker and I go crazy when I'm drunk okay oh that's that's great that you've listened to her and you've changed your ways I'm sorry that you wish you could have a drink but good on you what's your boxing tip um I call it the sway uppercut yeah so I was thinking like if if your partner is blocking the face you do like a mix up so you do one two on their face and then your uppercut right below them yeah okay um uppercut right below is in hitting him in the guts or hitting him in the face uh well you can do a mix up so you know they don't predict it you could do it on the gut or the face oh we're doing a double sway okay yeah I like it Robin I like it and just to be clear cuz it sounds like pretty expert advice you haven't you're not a boxing professional no but I I'm I'm a gamer and I play some games but also watch TV on it but yeah yeah yeah how many of you sit at home watching going I could do that is that why you're wanting to have a crack you've just for so long gone I reckon I could take someone down in one punch no Carrie if you do seem to recall one of those men from TV I stepped in the boxing ring with for 11 seconds broke my ribs so no the confidence isn't super high but that's why I'm getting tips from people thank you Robin get a live hi are have you got a boxing tip for us yes I do so if if you are not using gloves I recommend uh hiding your thumbs under your fists or aim for the knees or the stomach the knees do you know that that hiding your thumbs under your um Knuckles well my sister did that when she was young and she punched a box bag like that and she broke her thumb oh yeah why cuz it like pushes it back or something yeah cuz you just hit your knuckles and snap yeah oh my gosh yeah yeah yeah that that's good that's well no one no one else is doing that but also Liv you said no gloves do you think I'm doing bare knuckle boxing maybe there's with bar fights it happens about bar fights bar fight you're getting tips on how to fight someone at the bar on your live Liv you sound young how old are you 14 oh my God Liv's giving you 14year olds giving you Bight tips that's insane good on uh get a is it PX yeah how you going hey good PX have you got a is it a sobriety tip or a boxing tip it's both you're mixing it up too much okay Legend why are you separating it okay oh what do you mean well why are you saying you have to not have a drink so that you can be fit to box I don't get it um I love pigs yeah I like pigs as well why do you think combining it would help me well because I think to get fit drinking not going to help you get fit cuz you're sitting on your ass and you're drinking yep eating dinner like you said before you're sitting on your ass you're eating dinner you're not getting fet no going to bed early cuz you're not drinking you're just going to sleep you're not getting fet so I recommend go home crack a beer yeah have a beer go for a run come home have dinner crack another beer make love to your wife crack another beer yep Maybe um do some squats I don't know whatever you want to do get fit P now I only ask for people who weren't professional boxing coaches are you tell not professional anything coach car andmy from 3 till 6 for your drive home it is Carrie bigmore and Tommy little and the winter of sports giveaway is on now at koh's with 15,000 winners every week you can head to kohls.com Au to find out more it's been a while but it's time to feel inspiration Carrie bigmore is about to get shete it's shet o00 you've got to be shet and me it's shed time so it's not actually shed time today I hate to tell you I so I know that was very misleading I know I know I didn't have time to do a different opener it's sahill time sorry because it's time for you to fill sahill because there's another sahil Bloom his name is stuff from yes no so I obviously have a lot of J Shetty pop up in my Instagram feed but now for some reason zahil Bloom is popping up in my Instagram feed and he's inspirational I saw one of the tiles pop up the other day that said my 80% rule for Life 10% of days you feel great 10% of days you feel terrible your success in life is determined by how you show up on the 80% of today's in between here's the lesson the way you show up on your average day is what defines you in the long run I've heard a lot less depressing version of that which is in thirds what's that mean you have a third bad days a third really good days and it's the middle ones that make the difference there you go see we're already on board with hang on in Sills you only have 10% of bad that's probably the how about this one I feel like this one here applies to you he said here's an important truth your daily habits show up on your face after 10 years when you're young you can get away with treating your body and mind like crap but you can't hide forever 10 years later you're good or bad daily habits show up on your face those who can't see car's pointing all five fingers at my face I'm just saying you know it's good that you're getting sober you know what 10 years yeah I'm too late nah it's never too late really yeah yeah maybe I'll get a facelift that that face has got its best days ahead of it do you well not according to what you just said no that's true but seil doesn't know everything you know doesn't he who what's seahill do sahill is um he's an inspirational writer he puts out a bi-weekly newsletter called The Curiosity Chronicle oh who's reading two news he got he's got a book out quite a successful Bookout it's got squillions of copies actually it says on his Instagram I can't remember what it's like the five steps to wealth or I don't know something about wealth and five steps or something anyway but I saw something else that I thought was fascinating do you remember the uh Stanford marshmallow experiment where they had kids they gave kids marshmallows delay gratification yes and they said you can either have one marshmallow now or you can wait however long it was 10 minutes an hour whatever and then when you come back you get two whatever and it showed which kids were like no I want it now which kids were happy to wait well they've done a longitudinal study and he shared this on his um Instagram and found that kids who delayed gratification in this experiment went on to have better life outcomes they had better educational attainment they had better better body mass index and he said delayed gratification is the key to life you I'm going to tell you something really depressing they did for further inside to that original I know what you're going to say and it's so sad it's really sad but I think it's important what you just said they realized that there was a link between um uh the the socioeconomic um status of those kids that they picked who could wa and who because the kids who'd come from poor backgrounds had never been guaranteed something in the future so the idea of them waiting around to be promised something um they would just quickly take the marshmallow and stud to say that the others went on to have better life is actually not to do with surpris the rich kids who um had a safety net and so we prepared to wait for things also had a better life in the end I never thought I never thought I'd say this but I'm missett carry and Tommy carry and Tommy Teddy swims lose control for your Thursday Aro and that was the song that you were listening out for for this things don't always go to plan when you travel one cover travel insurance it's one thing you need if one thing goes wrong visit one cover.com nice one 50k V your way the song even gets me up and about yes Jess where are we going what are we doing uh the extended family have a planned trip to Greece and I would love to join them and pay Mom's way as well I was going to say Jess we can't afford to fly the whole family the whole extended family but perhaps you and your mom Jess how fun absolutely Jess is it the type of thing you really want to go to or is it the type of thing where you instead you could maybe go to America and say I'd love to be in Greece but sorry guys I'm going to have to avoid the extended family this year well uh they they they already booked their tickets and I wasn't going to go because I've got too many children to join them yes so do you want to really see them well actually yeah I do now they've heard this yeah of course you do yes well guess what Jess you and your mom you're in the boarding Lounge good luck thank you so much Carri and Tommy good on you Jess get a Phillip hey guys how yall doing filthy Phil very well how are you yeah pretty good pretty good bit excited but yeah yes where would you go Phil tell tell us everything I'm looking I'm looking to go to New York see my friends or Hong Kong perhaps I've always are you a party boy Phillip a little bit a little bit I'm getting a bit old but you know if if I get the opportunity I'd always how old getting a bit old how old H look I'm a bit embarrassed when I'm almost 28 it's always it's always it's always young people that say I'm getting old and it's always old people that say I've never felt this young gosh B to say he's 28 that's mortifying for us we microphones you could make it up to us by taking us to New York hey if you want a com feel free well you're in the boarding Lounge we'll let you know Phillip I see one more through yeah Molina get Hi how are you pretty good you sound fun where do you want to go I would like to go to New York City too please have you ever find business class before I have never flown business class before no oh my gosh there is one rule and that is you've got to try and drink as much as the ticket would have cost you that's not they say Tommy though once you fly business class it's hard to ever fly economy again that's a catchy saying Molina I agree hey Molina you're in the boarding Lounge best of luck thank you so much appreciate it we'll have another shot for other people to get in the boarding Lounge tomorrow it's all thanks to one cover travel insurance if things don't go to plan when you travel it's the one thing you need if one thing goes wrong visit one cover.com car Andy yes and it is a huge hour to come on the show guys if you liked Tiger King you'll love the new show out at the moment called chimp crazy it's all about people that have chimps as like pets like they actually treat them as their own children in one episode I first saw one was breastfeeding a baby chimp yes it's extreme we have the woman at the center of that doco coming up later this hour yes but up next she's one of our best and she's just about to be inducted into the ARA Hall of Fame that's next car and Tomy around the country for you drive home this afternoon it's Carrie bmore and Tommy little she's one of the best talents that we have produced in this country and if you're a big fan here is some exciting news uh the new album second act is out September 6 she's just announced she's headlining a day on the green tickets on sale for that September 3 via Ticket Master I'm talking about the one and only Missy Higgin thank you thank you how are you I'm good thanks how was it to because you've been also touring the sound of white um album how do you feel when you play all that music again um it's it's it's taken on a new life now I think because it's 20 years old and there's all these people kind of coming out of the woodwork like this tour sold so quickly and I had no idea I think that my first album had the impact that it did so it's been really lovely like yeah there's just been a lot of nostalgia in the room which has been very fun I was going to say has the crowd as well um got their next Generation into it because obviously for us this album was so massive um but now do you see they've brought their kids along who then get into you as well yeah there's there's there's like adult people coming up to me now saying oh my mom used to play you when we were in the car and I'm like oh my God I'm that old that you're saying that to me now that your mom used to play me um so yeah it is it's very humbling but it's lovely I was going to say is that still good news to get or does it it's a mix bag I'll be honest it's a mix it's a slap tickle yeah there's so much respect for you though and there's so much respect for you within fellow musicians as well sitting next to Amy shark at the Lois and we were watching you and she was like oh my God she just was like so moved because you are her she just loved you and then she was saying that I think you had given her a video or showed her a video of your kids I think maybe singing singing her and how shaed she was that you know and I was like you forget that like the mutual respect that flows between those that you've looked up to and and vice versa like it it is yeah and that's one of the other thing that's kind of happened in the last year or two maybe because this album is so old now that people are starting to go yeah that was actually an influence to me or you were an influence and I had yeah again I had no idea it's been great for my ego yeah if if a kid of yours gets into another muso um does that make you happy or is there a bit of you that like o mom's awesome too to be honest if it's anything other than the Wiggles I'm fine with it so let's get onto some decent music and then I'm happy but yeah my my daughter's just become a fan of mine which I'm so stoked about because for so long it was like shut up mom let me play My my son says to me um very kindly Mom it's just not my kind of thing and and my daughter says that I'm I'm equal best singer in the world with Taylor Swift so two very different opinions coming from yeah I still think I remember seeing you open for Ed shearan and I I mean it terrified me for you watching that I can't imagine what that would have been like for you at the time I think you were pregnant at the time weren you was I was quite flooded with that like relaxing pregnant hormone thing though so I was yeah uncharacteristically chilled on stage but yeah that was so fun i' I'd never played in front of audiences like that before I mean how many of that that would have been like 90,000 yeah it was 80 or 990,000 yeah but it wasn't so nerve-wracking I think because they weren't I knew they weren't there to see me so I I knew that I couldn't really disappoint all I could do was kind of um impress them because they had like very low expectations um but yeah it was very fun is that is that hormone called relaxing I think I think it's called relaxing makes your pelvis all just go it relaxes your body physically and it's also I think there's a lot of hormones going on that make you pretty um relaxed and why don't they all why don't we name more of them after the thing they do that makes it so easy it does make it easy like the sexy hormone and the like hung hung hung anyway Missy Higgins um up next we'd love to talk to you about your new album uh but right now what a treat there is a guitar there and you're about to perform your classic scar for us live take it away Missy [Music] [Applause] [Music] Higgins he left a c a bar of soap and a scrubbing brush next to an old this said to use these down to your [Music] bones and before I knew I had shiny skin and I felt easy being clean like him I thought this one now's better than I do a triangle trying to squeeze through a circle he tried to cut me so I'd fit and doesn't that sound familiar doesn't that he tooo close to home doesn't that make a shiver the way things could have gone and doesn't it feel pecul when everyone wants a little more so that ought do remember to never go that far could you leave be with [Music] this could you leave me with a skar [Music] yes thank you Missy Higgins and Scar live here Thursday ARA it's Carrie and Tommy driving you home and we still got Missy Higgins with us oh that was so awesome Missy you've still got a new song to play for us a little later as well but I mean how different is the Missy now to the the Missy that released her first album or that album that that you know was released in 2004 oh I mean I'm just a completely different person it's weird because when I do play those songs now I can't relate to what I wrote them about or who I wrote them about half of them I can't even remember who I wrote them about to be honest um but it's I don't know you know how they say that your cells change completely every five or seven years I feel like I've changed I've been at least four different people since I was 20 years old so yeah I mean I play those songs now for other people because it's almost like they're they have their memories attached to it and they still love the songs but for me when I play my new songs that's when I feel it inside my body like I feel I feel the emotions CU they're still so fresh and so so raw well we just listened um on the way here to one of new new songs which you were going to play um which was incredibly emotional um and it's about your separation can you tell us a little bit about what made you decide to write about it um you know my songs have always been very confessional and I've used them as a form of therapy really I mean I've I've tried writing songs for radio i' I've tried writing pop songs that might you know sell but it doesn't work at all they're really horrible um so just using it as what it has what it originally was for me and that was a form of of therapy and figuring out really tough emotions and it was the same so when I went through this separation a couple of years ago I just it took me about a year to be able to write about it because it was just it was too hard I was in too bad a place and then after about a year I started feeling like I might be ready to kind of untangle it a little bit and and put it into words and I wrote a song about um the story that I had written for myself because that was the number one thing that that came to me at first I was like oh my God this the reason this is hurting so much is it wasn't the story that I'd written for myself like I obviously had such a strong Narrative of how my life was going to go and then that burnt to the ground and I found myself unable to figure out what to do next who I was it was it was just a massive identity crisis I think um so I started to write about it and then it started to untangle that feeling and it started to feel really good and then I started going through other things that b up other emotions and I'd write about that so I don't know it was really one of those things where it was a matter of survival almost to go to to be able to move through the the Heartbreak of the separation it is a a um a side of love that is kind of underrepresented in the Arts world we hear a lot about falling in love we hear a lot about straight up heartbreak but I mean it's to c a complicated truth the the the gentleness that is this heartbreak involved but you also talk about you know you still love your your child's father and and stuff and literally that it's complicated because it's a harder picture to paint do you think it's painted less often um yeah I just I also think it's just not very sexy you know like most of the songs on on radio are written by younger people going through you know the fireworks the beginning of love which is the sexy part or it's like the the real friction of of breaking up or all the all those kind of complications but when you're middle-age becoming a single parent and you're you know singing to your kid it's like I don't think it's as appealing commercially to a lot of people um yeah and I also think because it is probably as a songwriter because it is such a complicated thing and a such a a messy thing to face that maybe maybe people don't particularly want to look at look at it straight in the eyes and go okay what's this difficult feeling maybe I can put it into a song I know for quite unique too to everybody so to try and capture itting one song that then applies to everybody would be quite hard as well whereas the falling in love feels to have more generic yeah it's very Universal exactly yeah I think for me um because songw writing's always been quite a a selfish thing in a way I just just wrote it for my daughter literally thinking after you know she was sitting in the back of the car asking questions like why can't we all live in this the same house anymore and you know how can you make promises and swap rings and then decide to not be married anymore and I was so heartbroken listening to these questions and I didn't know how to put the answers into words that a 5-year-old might understand so I I wanted to write a this song so that maybe one day she could listen to it and realize that it was you know me and her dad were just trying our best and we're only humans and it's love is a complicated thing when you're an adult well I think we should get the song on now so everyone else can appreciate it this is Micky Missy sorry it' be good if I called you Mickey this is your new single a complicated truth all I give you truth sometimes happiness is the hardest thing to choose but all always love your dad cuz Together We Made You Missy Higgins a complicated truth it's K and Tomy if you drive home Missy it is such a uh a beautiful song um I mean to the point where I I I shed a tear and I don't have kids um when you play that song do is it confusing to you I imagine the the usual reaction when you play a song although you what your songs are quite emotional do you often just look out and see an audience in foods of tears I do when I play that song Live there's Audible tears in the audience actually I feel like it should come with a trigger warning or something and is that when you know you're nailing it do you get to the point where if you you're playing that song and you're not hearing people cry like what is wrong with you guys yeah hearts of stone leave the building well it's so good to have you here in new album the second act is out September 6 uh you've just announced you are headlining uh a day on the green as we mentioned before tickets on sale September 3 via Ticket Master I'm so good to see you again thank too thanks for having me thanks thank you car and Tommy Carrie and Tommy driving you home for your Thursday Aro it's Carrie bmore and Tommy Little there is a new show on binge uh it is making worldwide news and we're about to speak to the star of this show and her first major interview since the docker was air the show is called chimp crazy uh you've seen a bit of it um our it's chimp crazy it is chimp crazy it takes you into the unique world of chimp owners and really whether people should be able to keep these wild animals as pets uh T hadex is the woman we're going to be speaking to she calls herself the Dolly Parton of chimps um in it she has a chimp called Tonka who you may have seen in you know films like George of the Jungle I think Tonka was in babe maybe um been in heaps of Hollywood movies and she keeps Tonka as a pet um they are incredibly close what she gets up to with Tonka we're about to speak to about her up next but part of the criticism around this doco it was made by the people that uh created Tiger King and T agreed to do it under the false premise that it was being made by someone else she wouldn't have done it she says had she known it was being made by the same people that made Tiger King we speak to her about all of that next The Fallout how she's been represented which she believes is is um being misrepresented really and let's not forget the face ripping off stuff K oh my God yeah in the doco you hear audio and see the aftermath of a woman who's had her face ripped off by a gorilla a gorilla T gor a chimp t a chimp sorry T herself um at the end of the doco you see her having been injured by an animal there's so much to talk to her about um we're going to do that on the other side of this song car and Tommy Australia here Thursday arvo it's Carrie bmore and Tommy little so earlier today we caught up with t hadex who is the focus of a new documentary series uh at the moment called chimp crazy like Tiger King but for people that have chimps it is blowing up online around the world at the moment T who is the center of that doco has huge huge issues with how she was betrayed in the series and how it was even made which you're going to hear her speak about now um we'll also cover um what happened when a woman had her face ripped off by a chimp and the injuries she herself T um has been Chown to suffer on the series as well it was a huge chat here's the first part of it uh our one-on-one with t hadix t thank you so much uh for joining us we have watched the doco it is um extraordinary for many different reasons which we're going to get to today but we wanted to start by talking to you about how you feel about it as far as overall the documentary um I just feel like that it's really cheeky and it's pretty scripted and definitely not accurate obviously it was made by um the same man who made Tiger King something which he kept secret from you guys do you feel like you'd been done over oh definitely um and they know how we feel about it um we've had many discussions about it um because it wouldn't have existed if they would have been honest about where it was coming from and definitely if it was Eric good because that was a specific question that I asked Cunningham when he approached me and he swore to me that Eric good good entertainment had nothing to do with it I had no idea about all of this I had no idea about raising chimps the the doco was so wi opening to me to watch um as you said there's not many chimp owners left but to see chimps being raised as from babies breastfed by humans and raised alongside other children all almost as siblings it was just mindblowing for someone like me that had no idea it focuses a lot on you and your chimp Tonka can you tell us a bit about Tonka for people that have no idea tonka's past and how you came to love Tonka Tonka everybody that met Tonka loved Tonka he had been a movie chimp his whole entire life so he was bred and raised by different trainers throughout his life to perform in Hollywood and to be around humans so he is what I call a humy which is half hum half um chimpanzee because we inert the behaviors of a human by allowing them to live amongst us and to act and be just like children um hence the word humy I feel like that Tonka just had the greatest personality in the world he was the most amazing chimp you could ever run across he definitely chose the um Human Side versus the chimp side on majority of the occasions um and that's what he felt comfortable with and that was my huge concern and that's why I hid Tonka was because Tonka was was just that you say that you in the doco that you love your chimps more than your kids in some way how how come what is the difference and how can that love be stronger well it's not really stronger when you're in the mode and you're coming out of court and you're you know so hyped up over uh the court case and you know trying to make sure that everything is done appropriately you kind of like are so you have so much adrenaline that you don't exactly know how to express yourself so to say that I love um Tonka more than my children is probably not politically correct basically the same love that I have for Erica is the same that I have for my biological son which is the same that I had for Tonka so basically whenever I took Tonka in and my heart melted for him and I considered him my boy it's interesting hearing you say all that despite the the at the end of the whole series we see some graphic injuries your ear um your ear partly taken off you were really hurt we've seen a woman's face completely taken off like the these are still aggressive animals how do you reconcile the fact that I'm sure you weren't expecting the attack to happen or the lady wasn't expecting to have her face ripped off but she still did but yet this is an animal that is allowed to be around little children and and you know like it's from the outside it's hard to understand and how you can't also see the danger and how problematic that might be for people well first of all that documentary is not politically correct about any of that and to go into details about that would be longstanding and would be a long conversation with you guys but that actually did not take place what do you mean which be the part about that uh chimp attacked me that did not take place at all what what so what were we watching that was um it's it's just a very very long story but I self assure you same thing that I had a debate with the documentary crew about is uh it's just longstanding but I can self assure you I've never been injured by a chimpanzee ever and definitely not those traumatic injuries sorry sorry just to um labor on it because it is such a big part of the doc the doco I feel like it we can't just stop here not getting an understanding then of what actually happened because I feel like if you're trying to set the record straight for people watching it they are walking away thinking you've been injured by a Chim what then was it someone else that injured you or another animal that injured you or um it it's like I said it would take forever to go into the whole story because nobody else is aware of it but I can self assure you I did not get hurt by by a chimpanzee Tanya but a lady did have her face ripped off she did but there was extenuating circumstances because you got to realize Travis was one of Connie's babies and so we know the situation behind Travis from you know bir on and that was not handled appropriately by the handlers that had Travis and that tragedy would have never have happened if you would have had the appropriately handling of that chimp yeah but I I guess you've got to understand that we are trying to be empathetic with your point of view and you know I said your intention seem very pure and and it's clear that you love um your animal but you've got to kind of also understand for people watching they've seen someone's face get ripped off and that is quite confronting and so surely you can also see from an outsider's perspective how they would think these animals are incredibly dangerous well exactly and I I do from an outsider's um perspective see that but it would be the same thing as the pit bulls because if you ever look at case scenario play byplay how many children are attacked by their pet Pit Bulls um and that's a decision that those um parents make for those children and they put them In Harm's Way so are we to eliminate all the pit bulls and are we to blame all the pit bulls for having um certain attacks versus some that never would attack it that's that's kind of a broad spectrum and that's you'd have to do an more of a deep analysis as to what the situation was about and also to um to realize that there are other animals whether they be as large as a chimp or whether it be something of an exotic animal doesn't mean that we don't have domesticated animals that can do the same thing well if you think that is fairly full on up next with Tanya uh we talk breastfeeding chimps faking a chimp's death and what Tanya fed to Tonka carry and Tommy Carri and Tommy driving you home from 3 till 6 it's Carrie bmore and Tommy little and you're about to hear part two of our chat with T hadex from um the smash hit docu series chimp crazy which is available now on binge um uh T describes herself as the doly Parton bers of chimps if you listen to any of this and you're as fascinated by it all as we were jump on online tonight we will upload the full 30 minute unedited interview we did with t in a podcast so that you can do a real deep dive into it it is absolutely fascinating she was fascinating but right now here is part two the links that you went to to not have Tonka taken away from you and to I mean you were lying to a federal court about Tonka not being dead you used I think you used your friends uh you dug up a dead uh chimp from your friend's house that was buried there and drove it across different states to make sure you could provide ashes of aimp if if not tonas to prove that um you know you didn't have Tonka and that Tonka was dead I start to imagine like what would have happened if you were pulled over like do you ever think back to some of those links you went to and and have any regrets over any of them oh yeah I definitely have regrets first of all I don't want to have to lie to a federal court judge because that was unfair to her she didn't deserve that and um that it's that I mean I I mean I admit when I do wrong or I don't feel like that that was an appropriate thing to do and and that at that time I was just desperate and I I just didn't know what else to do to be honest with you it wasn't thought out it was just played out every day because just like I whenever I presented the fact that um Tonka died um and Peta got the other six chimps I thought once they got the other six chimps and they were able to write about their victory that they would just leave that situation alone with Tonka so I didn't have any like like you know set plans on how I was going to handle it if they didn't so basically if you want to use the analogy that I was flying by the seat of my pants that's pretty much what I was doing and all I just knew is every day I'd look at tonka's face because I had made a promise to him back whenever he was still at home that I would not um ever ever ever let him have to go anywhere whereare that he did not feel loved every single solitary day and that he didn't have the attention that he deserved and that he no more had to ever work again in movies and that he didn't have to breed to make other people money that he would never ever have to work to ever make somebody else's money and that we would just love him for him and give him the best life that he possibly could have until he died so I disappointed him and it it's just a mess you obviously there's no doubt the love you have um for Tonka and you're obviously making those decisions in his best interest how do you know it's what Tonka wanted how do you know that Tonka wanted to be kept in those you know there accusations of you know feeding we saw you know Coke and macers and all these things that you know others have said is not appropriate for a Chim how do you know that that Tonka loved that life and wanted to be with you well again again just like I told you about that article tonight the people that are supposedly what Peta considers professional sanctuaries admitted that Tonka was so humanized when he first went there so obviously he knew nothing else so it's the same thing that I say about kids that live in poverty stricken areas but they are well cared for their parents still provide them with clean clothes and food and and uh a roof over their head yes they may not live in that mansion that some of them other kids like the card fashing kids but are they less loved and do they not deserve to be able to live like that if if that's what they're used to and if that's something that they have no objections to and how I know this is because whenever they came to get Tonka it took them 45 minutes to Dart him to get him out of here he screamed the whole time so I don't think he wanted to go and how I know he wanted to stay whenever I brought him here I didn't use any sedation drugs and I was able to get him home safely without having to do that so I think that's by proxy by choice and on top of that again I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and tell you that Tona wants to come home still to this day and if everybody's so self assured that that I'm lying or that I'm not politically correct with that statement give me the opportunity I'm challenging everybody that's hearing this give me the opportunity to go out there with no sedation drugs to that big chimp that everybody else seems to be intimidated by let me go up to him and just ask him if he wants to come home and if he gets in that crate on his own then obviously that's what he wants T I want to give you a hug I um we come from very different worlds but I think there's something about your passion and humility that is um relatable to everyone uh your name now um from what it was what a month ago is going to be one of the spoken most spoken names um on the planet for allbe it maybe a short time but what's the reaction being like people I'm assuming can access you pretty easily via social media what what have they said oh they've been very cruel which you know to be honest with you I expect that because you know Peta and a lot of people have really driven it in people's heads that animals don't belong there uh but I have said this time and time again and I'll state it to you and I'll state it to Peta because I have had the same conversation with peta's attorney um Jared Goodman you know I can understand New World New Life New People's outlook on things and if that's how people truly feel that's fine I'm not one to um like try to push my um opinions and my desires on to somebody else because we can have difference of opinions and still exist in the world but what I say about that is is just leave and this is what I told him leave the chimps and the animals that are what they consider dangerous where they are and where they've lived their whole entire life are there any limits or lines you wouldn't cross like I found it quite a lot watching a chimp being breastfed you obviously didn't have Tonga from that young age would that have been something that you felt quite comfortable with or even or is that too far for you like within the chimp Community with people that own chimps is there is there your own boundaries that you would not cross well I wouldn't even breastfeed my own son biologically mind so that definitely would be Out Of Reach for me but if I um if I could save him any other way sure I would um and would I be opposed to feeding him breast milk if I had to pump I guess I could I don't know that part I I to be honest with you I wouldn't do it for my son or didn't do it for my son which he was healthy of course but but I fed him a bottle and and um store bought formula so you know for me that might be Out Of Reach but no to be honest with you if Tonka needed it I would have done it sure hi T hadex um thank you for uh giving us a bigger picture to uh the documentary that everyone is talking about at the moment we really appreciate you taking the time and and clearing some things up thanks da thank you very much if you do want to do a deep dive and hear more from Tanya hadex from chimp crazy don't miss the full unedited interview we'll drop it in the podcast on The Listener app tonight car and we've got the most played song on radio globally coming up in back to back to back today this song M&M's Houdini is the most played song all over the world on radio at the moment who's keeping that stat well someone we we know coating I me we play it maybe like what 2,000 times one day or one hour so we just you know yes but as if every station would count and would get as if Darren from archiving is linking up with um Steve from the Barbados and going how many how many did you play to today and then they're linking up with all the other countries where's that whatpp happening the numers do you reckon or maybe Eminem himself is just listening to them all um I reckon your fact's better than mine what's yours um Morgan Wallen who we've got coming up um is he in the song with post Malone yeah I had some help um he did have some help cuz did you know Morgan Wen was on The Voice really back in 2014 in which in which country America guess whose team whose team who's on the voice over in America my God Carrie Doesn't Know Her Voice judges from 2014 in America no was on Usher's team the country star was on Usher's team yes how random and did he win don't know no I think it would have got LED with that thought he's gone and become so successful I thought maybe he did n it's Prov it goes to show that if you have on one of those shows you can still be successful you just need years to wait Carri and Tommy for your Thursday Aro it's Carrie bigmore and Tommy Little driving your home Okay so yesterday uh you were mocking me a bit because apparently I talk about the secret to a long life often the secret to a long life four aspects of a person's life that they believe will help them Reach the age of 100 I have the secret to living a long life The Secret of longevity what makes you live to over 100 how do you live to 105 years old and even beat Co along the way I want to live to 100 who else wants to live hands up if you want to live to 100 absolutely not a 100-year-old grandma has revealed the secret to a long life so she just there are over half a million people in the world who are over the age of 100 oh what why are you all laughing yes I am fascinated about it and when we spoke about it yesterday you were saying that all these studies that I look up are a load of bollocks that apparently we shouldn't believe centenarians in their tips just said if there's someone that's 105 years old and they say I still I drink a bottle of whiskey a day apparently if you're over 100 it just comes down to mainly lack and genetics and so well don't listen to them well but otherwise listen to the elderly okay do you want to know then from the latest oldest man who's 112 is the oldest man living man he's now said what he tip for long life is I'd like to hear some other things from him um okay well I can tell you a bit about him he was born in 1912 the same year that the Titanic sank do you saying he did it he witnessed over A Century Of Living he lived through the two World Wars I'm not saying he did them either he witnessed over A Century Of Living of History sorry yeah of course he's over I'm just telling you a bit about him he Liv through the Great Depression I've seen over three decades he lived through the techn logical Revolution Carrie are you just going to mention things that happened in his he a passionate Liverpool fan who cares you've asked me to tell you more about him no I said I want to hear his voice I don't have any audio of him he's a modest man apparently is he but here's what he says which I think you will like a lot he said there is no secret formula to longevity it is just luck which is everything you were saying yesterday yes but now I can't trust him you said you either live he says you either live long or you live short and you can't do much about it wow oh no hang on oh no what's happened oh no he has fish and chips every Friday there's the key guys tomorrow night Friday night in fact growing up we used to have fish and chips every Friday night just mean you live forever we weren't Catholic and I had it every Friday night or is it just Christian generally well we were Anglican but you are you thinking of Good Friday when you have fish no no I feel like I feel like it was a Christian thing having fish I thought it was yeah like Easter Frid e that's good Friday and there Trove Tuesday let's not forget about the pancake one so well I used to work in a fish and chip shop and I worked Thursdays and Sundays and I came home you've never smelt anything more disgusting in your life but every Thursday night and Sunday night we had fish and chips left over whatever people didn't want to eat how good i' just cook it up and bring it home what was the stuff that was the least popular but delicious grilled fish yeah and no one wanted the grilled fish i' bring home a lot of grilled fish and I'd bring home a lot of like potato cakes and stuff yum I'd like to do a special shout out to a bad Sav yeah we never had B at savs I don't even think I know what one is it's just like a hot dog in battering shout out yeah sh out in in grilled otherwise no a better T fried Fri Fri our producers just written a very long note that I'm not going to read about Jesus dying on a Friday and why we eat fish oh Google it guys yeah follow Carrie Bitmore and Tommy Little on socials at carry Tommy show bye bye well that carrye and Tommy podcast sure was an experience experience the Hundai Tucson hybrid visit hyundai.com or your local showroom today