Maria Sharapova | Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

welcome welcome welcome to armchair expert experts on Expert I'm Dan Rather and I'm joined by The Duchess of duth hello there where you'll soon be you'll be gracing duth with your I sure will Royal presence are you watching the new uh Crown by the way not yet yeah I need to get on it you know what's fun is I watch that with Lincoln oh so fun which so and I'm So Into the fact that at 10 she likes it so much yeah cuz it's it's it's slow it's slow and historical and everyone old on it and she loves it it's so exciting yeah today's guest is Maria Sharapova she is a five time Grand Slam winning former professional tennis player an investor and an entrepreneur and she has a book entitled unstoppable my life so far she's a beast mhm it's so cool like it's fun when we have athletes on cuz we just palale in comparison to them yeah he feels Immortal around them right yes well let's just start with the fact she arrived in we're the same size yeah and I was like oh damn because one of my questions was going to be or was and I did ask like the showdowns with Serena when she's a 17-year-old yeah that must be so intimidating that's what I think the whole time and then I meet her in person I'm like I doubt she's intimidated by much yeah you know yeah Powerhouse Powerhouse totally enjoyed it I hope everyone else does as well please enjoy Maria Sharapova he's an [Music] upair he's anair oh my god did they tell you that the toilet is without a door yeah not well let's see how tall you are oh this is wonderful like eye to eye how could I have not read that in my research how tall how tall are you I'm 6'2 nice you know what's crazy I didn't even clock it when we shook hands how tall you were I guess everyone's taller than me get away with being super tall but when I wear heels it's like yeah it's too much it's too much were you offered stuff to drink I'm fine we can stop at any time if you decide you want you want to go into the house for 10 minutes and sit down and relax go work on your roof we only have like an hour left of light out I hate it is that true no but kind of is some going to change these rules didn't we vote it's worse than that we voted and we said we don't want to have it anymore and then they told us oh it starts next year so for two years we thought it and then we like well this is the year and then come to find out that vote was just to allow them to overturn it so is it coming into effect I don't think it ever is I don't think that vote we did means anything that was three years ago that pass and we've been just waiting you're in Manhattan Beach yeah okay so the commute for you here Mis able be honest I usually like to drive but I looked at the map and I was like there's no [ __ ] today yeah that's fair also going back I don't remember last time I went this far actually yeah yeah you should plan an entire weekend out of it now that you're here I planned an entire late afternoon out of it oh good so yeah I scheduled a couple meetings after my friend is opening a store o tonight so I'm just going to do the whole thing can we recommend that you try a fun restaurant while you're over here or that would have said yes but I don't have time yeah now now you packed it so that would have been the only thing I would have liked to do is go eat and perhaps drink I have a driver well you fancy we should have had some wine for you here oh no that's fine do you like wine or your drink doesn't well yeah yeah even if you don't drink it you do like it I like it drink it yeah it's the experience right but you have a 15-month-old yeah I think he's 16 now I can't keep track we're just speaking with Monica about how quickly it all goes yes and do you feel though when you get to leave that house and come here that even though normally be a drag it's like a spring break I was just saying the guilt that you feel like leaving the house as a newer mom going through my teens and my 20s and my early 30s I was like oh I got this down I'm this tough girl I'm going to be okay leaving my child oh no I leave the house and I think twice about it like what's the purpose of my tri trip is it really important your thought perspective just completely changes but do you find this Paradox you're stuck in I forget who just posted about this but whatever it's welln but someone I like and respect it was like when I'm at work I feel guilty I'm not with my child when I'm with my child I feel guilty I'm not pursuing my work absolutely 100% cannot win no matter you can't win no it's like this balance when was the last time we felt balanced yes it's so gendered if I'm at work I'm like woo this is great and then I went being a dad I'm like I'm a great dad I don't there's no point well don't you think if you're out of town for some days you miss them but also don't you feel like I should be back well yes I was stuck on a TV show the hours were way too long and I was having a crisis like if this thing keeps going I'm going to miss my kids childhood I did have the Panic of that but it wasn't the guilt that I think Mom's experienced it's not like I had done something amoral it was just I'm providing in a way I got to figure out a different way to provide yeah my whole perspective on on work on this sense of understanding what's more important than other things like I retired we went into lockdown of covid then I was pregnant and so you know I envisioned post-retirement traveling around the world and experiencing these amazing cities from a different perspective and then I gave birth to Theo and then my world just revolves around him and work and yeah and I don't know when I'm going on vacation I don't think I connected the dots between you retiring in 2020 and and that of course we went right into quarantine do you think in some way I could imagine that helping a lot because you were probably so used to the routine and the training and the traveling and all that busyness yes and then when you retire it stops on a dime it could have been overwhelming but luckily everyone's Stu on a dime do you think that helped I'm not sure I think there's always a part of your body and your mind that has to process a big change like that and so whether it happens in light of a pandemic or whether it just happens because that's where life takes you there's definitely a moment of reflection of consideration whether that was the right choice I played this one sport for over 25 years of my life so I was committed I was in it it was my passion it's where I found and searched for some of my greatest moments in life it had to be most of your identity oh yeah absolutely and when someone would ask whether I wanted to have dinner that evening that thought of well how late is my dinner am I going to be as fresh the next morning if I didn't attend that dinner you're constantly pushing your body and your mind to this next level and so one of the nice privileges in retirement is that you don't have to go there with your body you don't have to go there with your mind but you can still apply the knowledge that you have of how far is it that you can take your body to without pushing it over the limit because as a professional athlete that's always on you're constantly pushing it and pushing it and so it's nice to just have a cold and be like well today I'm just going to do some emails from bed yeah yeah yeah yeah and not have to go perform in front of thousands of people so that's been a nice change but yes you're absolutely right the identity understanding that you had this platform for 10 months out of the year you had a voice and Beyond just being an athlete you attended a press conferences and you had so many different things going on it dies down a little bit and so what's that next version it was very real for me and I also appreciate that it's very real for someone that perhaps is coming off of school and finding their big next step in life and job or it's someone that's done one thing in their life and after several years decides that that's no longer their passion yeah so I could feel other people's dilemma and pain and reflection in my decision I think there's a lot of contributing factors to why so many professional athletes get very depressed post career but I would imagine one of them is you didn't have the capacity to be pursuing a bunch of other Hobbies it's so all assuming what you were doing I imagine when it's over there's the obvious stuff but then there's also like well I haven't been pursuing all this other stuff that I'm going to fall back on what's interesting about that is you only have so much time to dedicate to one craft it was a single focus it was the one thing that I just wanted to achieve and be great at every single day but I also realized that it was only several hours of my day how long am I able to go on the court and just give it all out and probably three four hours right then I'd go in the gym and then I'd have recovery and then I'd be in my hotel room and so for those moments when you are just dedicated to one thing and particularly in sports it was so important to recover and that's the one thing that this transition finding the balance of what recovery looks like like if I played a night match at the US Open I would take a nap come you know 1: p.m. just before heading out to the courts like 20 30 minute nap that was a must now if I now I mean I don't tell anyone yeah right right right because you're ashamed of it right you're almost like wait I'm not supposed to be doing this I'm supposed to be having lunch while on a zoom call so it's interesting the perception that people have of a pack schedule now in order for you to look like you're busy yeah and the productivity is certainly not the same but I had a lot of downtime and as an athlete you have a lot of downtime to spend with yourself and your mind and so what can you do with that extra time you ask yourself questions on what are these other passions or interests and I was very curious as a young girl and I learned learn that sport was more than just being a tennis player and having a racket and having a sponsor it was about having a voice and actually inspiring people and bringing a message to the Forefront but it always came down to what I wanted to say with my racket and the more that I was able to say and the tougher that I was able to perform and the more that I won the bigger my platform and the bigger my voice and so that's why my focus onto this one sport was so important okay another thing I'd imagine I would have a hard time saying goodbye to to and this will be a very strange analogy but I will say one of the great things about being an addict is you have a singular priority and there's something very comforting about that that everything else gets downsized because I think so much of the anxiety of being alive is exactly what you described this morning like I'm going to be with the kid for this long and I'll be gone for that long the anxiety of like making sure you're turning your focus into all the places you should and trying to decide that whereas when you have something like you were doing it does give you a great excuse that just like hey this is what I'm doing 10 month like if I didn't return your call like we all know what I'm doing I would imagine that's kind of a nice luxury and unfortunately in many ways the sport found me you know my dad was a fan like no one in my family had any strong sporting genes right and I was just a little girl that would go with my dad as he had fun with his friends and played doubles on a public park court and it wasn't that I had many other interests and this just happened like to flourish it was I just picked up a racket you were three when you first picked up a racket yeah I started playing at 4 three sounds a little young well In fairness it said just you hit a tennis ball for the first time at three at four you took maybe a lesson for the first time maybe I had my eyes on the ball and had three okay so you just went with your dad yeah casually my dad was a fan and I'd show up on the courts with him and my mom was very young when she had me so she was still a university so as she was studying I'd go with my father I never went to kindergarten so I was always around them and I was an only child so all their eyes were on on me and I was very well looked after and they had just left their home right because while your mom was pregnant with you Chernobyl happened and they were at that time within 30 km of Chernobyl yes that's its own unique childhood when you're growing up with parents that aren't at home it was a very different upbringing I was born in Siberia because of Chernobyl explosion because my mom was pregnant with me they were living 30 km from the explosion in bellus at the time have you considered this is why you're so tall I mean it's been mentioned a few times is your dad really tall or your mom no one is as tall as I am it's definitely been a consideration like a superhero movie you got the good gamma ra uh and we fled to Siberia and that's where I was born and then two years later we moved down south to a little warmer town on the Black Sea and then that's where I started and then at the age of five my father and I flew to Florida and have lived in the US since okay so there's so much there there's a lot there has to be so much there ultimately did you leave SOI to go to Florida you were in SOI right before you left for Florida so I went from palm trees to palm trees so the Visa your dad was able to obtain for you to go pursue tennis again Wikipedia is wrong you were five not seven I read seven whatever it only allowed for you two to go so Mom couldn't join you for 2 years my mom didn't join me for the first two years I didn't see her for two years how do we feel what are the residual yeah like what does one pick up from that that's pretty traumatic for a little girl to not have Mom for a couple years it's very interesting looking back at it because I'm now a mother of a 16-month-old and I cannot imagine that type of Separation it was a world of unknown simply because visas were so difficult to get at that time as they are now by the way but it just put so much emphasis on the fact that what an amazing gift that her husband and her daughter had the chance to go pursue a sport in the United States so I think she looked at it from that perspective and there's like a part of me that also thinks that we didn't have that direct connection with FaceTime and my dad didn't have a cell phone I didn't have a cell phone so it was letters like physical letters of writing to my mother and not that it makes it easier or okay but I think there was a sense of we will see each other we don't know when that is but I think if we had that daily seeing each other on video it almost forms a closer Bond and you constantly think when am I going to see right so it feels like it could have been helpful but it was challenging for my mother there's something really profound about having children in reexamining your own life oh absolutely especially for trauma yeah being an only child and constantly being around them and seeing how supportive they were in all aspects of my life we grew an incredible Bond and also like interest levels my father was very influential in sport and he pushed me to a certain extent and he was tough but very fair and my mother just came from a point of education and culture and any chance she got even if it was in Sarasota Florida she would take me to the ballet there may have not been the best at the time but she exposed me to different things in life that weren't just hitting a tennis ball that was one of her greatest gifts is she didn't really care if I was number one or 300 in the world she wanted me to stay curious and to stay humble and to understand that hype is not real don't believe in it and work hard and the fruits of your label will eventually be seen in different forms and it's not about being just number one in the world right there's about three different stories happening in your life already at nine that are worthy of its own book one would just be the life of a child prodigy tennis star right but the other one is immigrant family from the USSR going to Florida mom arriving 2 years later what culturally was happening when you guys got there was there excitement was there apprehension Completely Different World Views at that time yeah I wrote an autobiography several years ago and it was for exactly that reason because I felt like this relationship to my father especially in the first two years as an immigrant was such a unique and special story and we were lost but we found Comforts in our daily routines and because we had a goal and we had a vision and I had a passion I would wake up the first thing I do is go get my racket and Dad let's eat breakfast fast so we can go out on the court at 6:00 a.m. that's all I wanted to do and so to have his guidance while we weren't financially stable at all with $700 in our pocket as we landed in the United States it wasi English we didn't speak English ask that oh boy yeah you had to say my name in English and my name in Russian is Masha and when I came to the United States they all called me Mara which I said no thank you I'll do Maria wow so your real name's Masha Masha yeah oh I like Masha my hot and I knew the basics you know the animals uhoh where's this the big breakthrough in my life was no girls like me in elementary school and then when I got to Junior High my brother gave me a cool punk rock haircut put me in the right clothes gave you a new name my name was already daak so I was already there but Sasha oh the most popular eighth grader liked me and asked me out and it changed my whole life in Sasha so I had this really it's a very important this is almost it I feel your energy coming through from my chair by the way the setup is very unique you have over here I used the toilet just before staring this and Matt Damon's in the show I mean a lifesize cutout of Matt Damon I don't know where else I'm going to find that again baby Monica right there this is a once in a LIF unique space thank you it's like a weird Clubhouse isn't it yeah there's some non-alcoholic topic totally off topic no that's exactly why I wanted to share that story of my life and my career on paper because it really was an amazing beautiful chapter of my life that many of my fans they didn't know all the details and the difficulties and how many people helped us along the way and how many people thought that we wouldn't make it and try to make it extremely difficult for myself and how did we go through all those red lights and how did we find another path to keep going and the inspiration that's why I loved writing it do you have memories of things being exciting when you got here like I don't know Burger King the beach uh everything was larger okay right like a cookie jar was just larger which I appreciated cuz I have a huge Sweet Tooth and it was I just remember this large jar of animal cookies it just came it was probably from Costco or something God yeah big box stores those didn't exist ex and even the dollar stores were probably my father's shop everything just came in XXL size totally we were in Cuba not terribly long ago I guess 8 years ago we were in Cuba and we befriended this young woman and she had only left Cuba one time I said where did you go and she said I went to Russia and I go what did you think and she goes I just couldn't believe how well everything worked oh and I go you need to come to where did she go like yeah that's what a state of disrepair Cuba's in like electricity is going even when we were there like the electricity is going outop stop the elevator don't work buildings are crumbling so she went there and she was like this place is like a Swiss clock yeah everything felt cleaner just the roads having five Lanes on a freeway right it was huge and what did your mom think so my mom arrived and she just thought I had a really bad haircut and that was only because my father just he was handling that wasn't very skillful he was handling everything and all the clothes I were wearing were completely mismatched so she was like I got to get my daughter back on track here what did he do jobwise out here just a bunch of jobs very random piecing it together finding a few dollars here and a few dollars there could you feel the stress of it not at all well because this is my hunch and I don't want it to sound derogatory at all to Russia but I would imagine even a lowincome lifestyle in Florida might be still kind of more bells and whistles than it was back in Russia yes we were comfortable back home we didn't have much but we had enough when I look back at my childhood in the first 5 six years there I didn't see anything wrong with it I was a kid and I had a great upbringing and I was with my parents and I ate yummy food and I had a few friends and I played a sport I don't look back at and think oh I desperately needed to get out of that situation so I think the idea of going back to what we had wasn't so bad when I think about the pressure that I most certainly must have had at some type of level or age maybe I managed it better than others because I appreciated that if I go back to the beginnings that I had that I would be okay and that I would be comfortable my parents and particularly my father who was my coach for many years he didn't establish what success was or what level of success I needed to achieve in order for us to feel like we had made it that's the greatest gift that he gave me is that it was about piecing a few days together of great practices and improvements and perhaps you know playing a tournament one weekend losing to someone and then going to another tournament and beating that same person he saw those as victories and he taught me those lessons and so I would put all those scenarios in a bag and I'd hope that one day they would help me and that I'd pull those few tricks out and my improvements and my hard work and it would help me in a match scenario did School feel inanely frivolous to you I loved School you loved it and how did you get on in school cuz you're obviously learning the language I was mostly homeschooled I attended a school at an academy Florida is this part of IMG they had a school system so they had a school system for athletes that traveled quickly this is where Andre Agy train many and that was the goal that's why they went to Florida is to go to this incredible Place yeah I mean it was just a training Factory and it had school and several other sports and the greatest part about that Academy is that you had so many kids that you could compete with so you just immediately understood your level you had girls and boys from all around the world that you were testing yourself against so wait why is Florida is it just because of this IMG now I'm remembering that was the epicenter ofies of the sport when someone says Florida in a tennis academy that's immediately where everyone's mind goes Serena and Venus Andre is there currently right no I believe she trained or trains in France but I could be wrong okay okay you know you guys are the exact same age I know we established that before I know you've lived many more lives than me so I feel a bit intimidated yeah well on the height and the yeah does okay you don't you said intimidated I love that they you're the same age cuz it's really I know cuz I'm thinking of your life at 7even I was learning how to ride a bike in my garage I still don't know how to ride a bike by the way I not very good so on my way here I had a call with one of your dear friends Adam Grant oh love yes he's doing a book tour shortly so we were discussing something about that and he always laughs at me when I tell him that I'm not very sporty he finds that very funny he's like what do you mean you're not sporty I was like you do not want to see me ride a bicycle uhhuh how do you do with swimming cuz Monica also struggles with swimming I swim okay but like more in the Mediterranean than the pool so with glass of Ros exactly were there any boyfriends along the way in this Florida no no I was still really young and then I started coming out to LA at like 11 12 okay so I was still young there was a coach here that I started coming out to see and I'd come out every few months remember my father actually found this coach and he was making a little bit more money and he said and he just collecting a few extra dollars and saying when I have enough we're going to buy a plane ticket to Los Angeles cuz you're going to go see this coach and then I turn on the TV and I'd see like news of I don't know shootings and I'd be like oh no that's in Hollywood somewhere and is that where we're going dad and he's like yes but we're just going to see a tennis coach I just remember being like are you sure we want to go to Los Angeles it's scary there and I love ever since 12 years old I've been basically Al living in California oh really I thought you were in Florida for the bul of all this I still go back and forth but you're at a camp and there's coeds they're away from a lot of supervision I would imagine that there would be so many cute crushes happening no everyone's too focused is that it we had a little apartment with my father I did stay for like 6 months or something and it was with other girls and they were much older than I was that was actually quite a difficult period of my stays there because they didn't accept that I was good at one thing and that I was super focused and I wasn't part of the friends group okay so this came as a great shock to us but when we interviewed Shawn White we would have imagined everyone in the snowboard World loved him and the skateboard world where he was a champion in both worlds and he's like no nobody liked me they hated that I was at the competition cuz I won them all the time I see these other guys they all seem to be friends and it was a very isolating experience for him was that that's exactly how it felt when I was in the dorm I was young I was there on a scholarship I mean we could not afford it was 35 Grand a year right and now it's I think like three times as much but yeah at the time it was probably that and my parents could definitely not afford that and so I was so lucky that I had that scholarship and that I was able to board there for some time but also just to be able to train and I knew everyone that boarded there paid the fees and everyone that boarded there also knew that I didn't pay the fees and so it's kind of a sticky subject right because you know you're there with a purpose and a goal and you're so young but I definitely felt that I was following a different Road and that my path was different and that I had to stay focused and as I look back I think that was my strength because I was talented at the sport but I was never the strongest physically I mean tennis is a very physical sport you know I was lanky I wasn't super coordinated that's probably where my bike skills coming but I had this ability to do this one thing over and over and not lose my focus and not lose my concentration so the mental stability and resilience when things weren't working well acceptance of a bad day or a bad match at that age I think really helped me move forward and move quicker than some of the rest of my dorm mates you're a vkin right at 13 you start competing in the 16-year-old class right so your first kind of Touch Of Glory is 13 and winning in a 16-year-old Division and then deciding to go professional after that at 14 yes have you met a 14-year-old lately I know in your own mind you probably think you were so old but have you talked to a 14-year-old lately no I appreciate that yes so there was a limit on how many tournaments you could play So when you say I turned professional it wasn't that I was playing like 20 tournaments a year but was playing girls that were in their 20s she turned Pro on her 14th birthday and lost badly I remember that better than my birthday party how did you take both the winning and the losing back then or in general back then I was tough on myself can I argue from what you've told me about your life it's not like you have 25 friends that you're also celebrated in that world and you're going to go out to a pizza place and have a blast this is what you do this is virtually all you do I'm imagining right so when you lose and you've dedicated you've really sacrificed the whole rest of your life for this thing I have to imagine it's worse than when I would have lost I don't know I have always thought that losing and perhaps that's a lesson that my dad taught me perhaps it's something that I learned along the way but I think losing sets you up for winning I think the lessons that you learn when you are not at your best is when you're doing your best work I never thought that I was playing my best tennis when I was at the top of my sport or number one in the world and mostly because those times there's a sense of confidence and fearlessness that when you're performing at that level things are automatic in a way and when you win a match you high five your team and you kind of move on to the next but it's when you lose that you go back to the drawing board you huddle with your team you have the tough conversations you're in a vulnerable moment particularly after losing say first round of a grand slam or even the final which is one of the toughest moments for an athlete in tennis because you're out there getting a runnerup trophy what other sport is the losing team out there or the losing individual getting a Runners up trophy while tens of thousands of people are watching you as you're crying and upset and sad and you know you've gone that far and yet it's the silver medal complex yes right the people that get bronze are happier tennis though it's not silver medal it's you lost or you won and that's worse than zero yeah which sucks so that's to say that losing as tough as it was I appreciated the lessons that losing there's nothing to learn from a win virtu winnings I don't want to say it's easy cuz it's not but there were moments in my career when I would play so well and I would win a tournament maybe two in a row and I'd be on this winning streak that in a sense I forgot how to lose it's very dangerous to forget how to lose because losing is an emotion that you have to go through on your own but also it's an acceptance with your team to tell them I played like crap and I lost for these reasons like you have to be honest you have to be so raw and are you ready for that and so when you haven't had that feeling of losing you've been on this winning streak you lose the ability to walk through that gracefully my theory on players that do really well for a big tournament then perhaps another one and then lose early then it's very difficult to kind of get back on track because it takes a lot more work like the self-examination that makes sense will you consult tape like is it that detailed it's as detailed as you want it to be you have to decide for yourself what team member you want and you also have to pay for them yeah yeah yeah so it's like do you need a physical therapist do you need a fitness coach do you need a hitting partner do you need a mental coach do you need a chef those are your choices yeah whereas a team provides those and has those on hand and you tap into them right stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare [Music] would it be fair to say though that when you're looking at a winner you're looking at somebody that has to have been honest with themselves that it would be impossible to reach that height if you didn't have the ability to be critical and honest with yourself it's got to be prerequisite I think it's the best test of character and that's not just about the athlete themselves but also the team I want to win with with a coach that knows how to lose with me I want to know that I can be in their presence and they can accept a tougher version of Maria that's upset and perhaps not happy with how training has gone in the past few months or wants to see change or whatever it is like having a difficult conversation I want to choose a partner and a coach that is honest about it and accepts it and gives it back to me do you think that this ability to take an honest and thorough inventory of your play has transferred into your inpersonal relationships do you think you're good at acknowledging when you and your partner have a fight are you able to apply that same skill now we're getting into relationships now what the show's all about I see it's just a conversation yes I'm not someone that says a lot I don't speak all the time just to speak I think I'm more it feels very Russian of you is that a kind of Russian characteristic great characteristic I'm more of an observer and then when I'm confident in what I want to say or I feel like I've done enough research about something and I have conviction in my thoughts then I say it that's why I didn't think that I could be a good commentator because I don't just like to fill up the oxygen with words I would say in America it's so valued that you have an opinion and a point of view that you often just start expressing opinion hoping you will know what your opinion is by Midway through know what it is you're just saying so it is so American right now I think it's the problem with the world is that everyone feels that they have to have an opinion on absolutely everything and they have to say it loudly and everyone has to hear it yeah interesting how you have to have that's what I'm finding I don't know if challenging but there's definitely this extra weight on everyone where you're put in a position to have something to say without really having the time to figure out what it is that you want to convey everyone has willingly become Publishers of a newspaper which is they have to fill their timeline be it on Twitter or Instagram or wherever they've got to fill it with content as if they're a magazine but they don't have the time or a staff to actually put out the content it's a skill or they're running on an algorithm then it starts running your life yes that's my beef with social media there's an external pressure of constantly having to show up for it so that there's relevance in this Digital Universe of your presence made up thing the thing we made up I it's crazy and I never had anyone help with any things that I've done on soci but I've definitely faced that pressure of oh if I don't post for a week then no one's ever going to see my post when I do make that right yes yes but then you have to stay true to who you are and you have to beat to your own drum is that the saying yeah yeah walk to the beat of your own drum dance it's all it's all in there Beat Your Own Drum I think is the is the common denominate of course I got it wrong wait relationships we left that dangling we left that dangling everyone has a different way of approaching conflict and conversations and you're right I have the same approaches I had in my career where it's thoughtful I give it some time but I'm not very patient and I'm very stubborn yeah me too me too I want to get to the chase like I want to get there and I can't imagine you're terribly afraid of Confrontation because again I don't think you could have gotten where you've gotten without having to have very difficult conversations with coaches and colleagues no I'm okay with it you are right yes exactly this is a high octane combo I have the same don't mind confrontation very impatient I think stubbornness leads you to several good things in life like persistence and resilience and when you have some type of feedback that's difficult but you just get through it you take it as it is and then just keep going so I think it served me well but in some instances in my career I think was a deficit there's so many highlights we could go through but one I want to jump to is 04 so at 17 years old you WI your first Grand Slam Wimbledon 17 years old against Serena yes now that I've seen how tall you are I have a little less of this question but I can't imagine a more intimidating opponent at 17 in the finals at Wimbleton yeah I need to know what was happening mentally how were you regulating yourself were you intimidated do you have a Zone you go to like how the [ __ ] do you navigate that moment there was so much on the line in that match one of the biggest reasons was because it was Wimbledon actually had just played Serena a few months back in a tournament in Miami and she easily won that match in two sets and it was the moment itself where I really felt the weight it was the fact that Wimbledon in my eyes growing up was the event the tournament the place where as a professional you want to end up you want those French doors to open to Center Court and it did and it just happened to be the final for me and it's interesting it was one of the first few times in my career as a young girl that I felt what it was like to be in the zone you know that when athletes speak about being the flow and in the zone I had that moment in the middle of the tournament and it was in the fourth round and it's not that I had that much experience in these Grand Slam tournaments just two weeks before that was my first time getting to a quarterfinal at the French Open even though I lost it was like a huge Victory if the season had ended that would have been an enor I found myself in this Flow State in the middle of the event playing against someone that also should have beaten me but I won that match so confidently and so routinely and it felt like I was letting go of all the repetition that I put I was letting go of any fear that I had and I just allowed the moment and my skill to shine through would you say there's a bit of magic involved like why it hit you when it hits you you could prepare in the same way I'd imagine for a thousand matches it never works the same right so there is some bizarre ethereal magic that takes over right to think how many things have to align and work for you to get to that moment and what a big big deal it is and I think it was also a gift that I'd never been in that position and so as a 17-year-old I was Fearless cuz I didn't have any experience I didn't have like oh I've been in this moment all I had was just I'm playing a phenomenal opponent that's achieved so much and I'm playing one of the biggest stages in sport foret about tennis in sport period and I've been because I was so young on the cover of every paper every day since the fourth round of this tournament and the British media adds like everything story boiling to this moment and if you can just only win this match right yeah and I had horse blinders on it was just me is just my opponent and even though all those external factors that I just mentioned were present in every way I didn't think about them at all they were Deep In The Deep background I woke up that morning we stayed at a family's house okay we rented the Upper Floor it was like I wanted to say bread and breakfast but they didn't even give us breakfast we rented two bedrooms and I remember I woke up with a bit of a cold and I was so upset because I didn't have a strong immune system so of course i' called my mom and I was like so upset my dad's like just have your oat mail have your strawberries you know you'll get to the courts you'll have your warmup and you'll be completely fine and I was completely fine yeah you are so every time I've had a cold sense I look back to that moment I think of my father's words you're going to be fine yeah do you think maybe it was manifested the cold a little bit cuz there's so much fear of the body showed away the body was a way out almost I mean probably like get me out of yeah the body like this is so stressful we're going to give you an excuse yeah exactly and I was like no I'm still showing up yes this was going to be a overall question but I'm uniquely interested at this moment in time when do you know you can win do you know you don't so you don't have a moment where you go I'm GNA win no you don't tennis doesn't like that though cuz I feel like it could change there too many opportunities yeah there's so many momentum swings and it's also that feeling everyone functions differently and moments and scenarios but I was never a player that wanted to feel overly confident I liked when my preparation wasn't exactly going according to plan or when I wasn't my best physically because I'd get on the stage in like that first round match and I knew I had to put an extra I didn't like that feeling of content of feeling like oh things are going well my chances are good no I was like actually no I've had a pretty crap week you know and I got to bring it and maybe it was just my defensive mechanism of functioning with opportunity like that but it's really how I went about almost every single event it was very rare that I showed up and said I'm feeling fantastic I would never say that to my coach right okay when you walk out and it's about to start do you at any point think I'm going to win or I'm going to lose or I'm scared or I'm not scared or is that not there in preparation you definitely put a few scenarios through mind cuz you compare yourself to different matches against that opponent also i' like to do video analysis so the older I got the more video I had to watch and the more times I'd face these opponents and it's very rare that you had like a 60 win to loss record so there were definitely times where you lost to those opponents and I'd love to look at those matches cuz those are real those were moments that could happen and they could happen again and also like my body language I like to examine did I show my opponent that this wasn't my day okay maybe I wouldn't win today but am I going to be there until the very last point so they know and they feel that pressure that the match isn't over till they win the very last point I love that tennis Show on Netflix so much you're on it break point yes breako so good it's fun seeing everyone's feedback on it cuz I think it's the first time that a show has been done on the sport and there are times where it's quite dark yeah and piece of feedback I've received is people hadn't really appreciated how dark and lonely it is if I had to list in order the most mental games you know if it's not number one I feel like it's tied maybe with like golf too I see I see golfers what golfers go through over those three days and like they're ahead they're ahead they're ahead and then something just clicks the wrong nothing they don't not have the ability to do it it's so clearly 100% mental do you think tennis is number one as far as being just mental mental mental I think you may have more opportunity because both Golf and Tennis the schedules are so long and this idea of constantly having to show up and having a responsibility and an average amount is probably like 19 to 20 tournaments a year and when you're not playing a tournament you're training so the pressure of constantly having to perform at a high level and everything that comes with just being an athlete at an event the sponsor responsibilities the interviews the Press you have a schedule of things at Formula 1 I mean what lwis is doing ahead of a race I actually was in Miami and I saw some of his sponsor responsibilities and I just couldn't believe the amount of events and interviews and the teams hosting parties that the sponsors are there and you got to be there at night and you got to be there in the morning and then how do you wake up and want to do your job beat someone yeah yeah when so much of your energy is drained I think it also just shows you when there is that individual and that star right that wins over and over how special it is because of everything else that they've also had to be responsible for that's right not just the tennis Park can we wrap up Serena just is that the greatest Victory is that the most Rel you've ever felt I it wasn't even relief it was like you're so young you don't really even know the states of what you're doing in a weird way it's strange being an athlete in the midst of their sport because as much as you realize how special it is to hold like the big trophies it's almost like an artist that has to pass away or become older for everyone else and for themselves to acknowledge and realize what weight they had in that field it's hard to be present in it because it's a cycle that just constantly continues and I'm not saying that's great it is what it is and you can't get ahead of yourself you can't think oh I'm just the Wimbledon champion you know like the Barista still making coffee at your local coffee shop and you can't believe the hype that's but that must be hard especially with your favorite approach which is I need to feel a little bit off a little bit Underdog a little chaotic like I'm on the cliff when The Rock tring a little bit are coming in and they're asking you to be on the cover of this that must be hard well that's where your team comes in that's where the nose are so important that's when you need a bulldog at the gate saying hey I'm protecting here you have to say no in order for better opportunities and for a powerful yes to come about this is a subject that comes up often being a retired athlete is around female empowerment and what does that mean and you have to establish what is it that you're passionate about from a young age because you do have a platform and you do have a voice that you cannot take for granted when you're young I mean Billy Jean King came up to me I was about 14 years old and she said what you do today tomorrow in 10 years ultimately sets up a path for the Next Generation which is so powerful yeah I didn't realize the power of that message then I certainly do now but it's really important to also find other lanes because as a female athlete there will be a point in your career where you will have to make decisions whether you want to continue or not because your body may be breaking down or you want to start a family or you just lose passion whatever the reason what is it in your life that you're also curious and passionate about and that you want to know more and that you want to grow on and so you do have to say yes to Opportunities like whether they are sponsors that can help grow you in another dimension I think that's really valuable it just has to be the right one and it's very difficult to determine what the right partner is for when you were talking about your dad he was your coach for a while was it complicated it's always complicated when dad's involved yeah I bet right yeah of course well you just said lwis like Lewis at some point had to fire his father I mean I did too1 years old that's what I wanted to ask about so my father would was my coach from the very beginning for one reason because we didn't have money for another option so the longer he was my coach the more he knew about me and my game and knew what was best for me and so that is what I appreciated is that there was no one else that knew my struggles and my challenges and my game and the belief that he had in me was exceptional but he also knew how to challenge me and the right ways which in the dynamic of a father daughter is very hard how much do you push your child so that they get the most out of this but they're not in a year or two saying no dad you pushed me so much that I want to leave so it's such a fine line I'm already thinking about it as a parent yes you know like how tough are you in order to be in line and to be right but also to make sure that they have a chance to make their own decisions I still have an amazing relationship with my father and I value it because we went through this journey together and it was so unique I imagine would be hard about that is it's working even up until 21 like it's working you're yielding results you're ranked number one at 18 you know you when the US Open then you when the Australian Open all this happens before you have to fire them so I would imagine it's not like you have the best case to make like this isn't working it's that I wanted to do it on my own yeah we got there as a team and we're a phenomenal team and I felt mature enough to make that decision because I was comfortable with where my game was I was comfortable with the other team that I had and it was also I wanted him to enjoy his life he spent 20 years working and grinding and bringing in the best talent to help me grow and just being by my side all the time and there was like a part of me that just wanted to repay him and a way that money doesn't and I wanted him to have some freedom in his life and you know he's like an adventurer he loves to bike and to hike and I was like go in the mountain somewhere yeah he was fine with it I think some part of me would also be like hey just be my dad now like let me just be your daughter you be my dad I don't think I thought that that would ever be an issue for him I knew that he would always be there as a dad it was actually because I made that decision after winning my third Grand Slam that I said now is when I want to make the change I was taking a huge chance yeah I wanted to prove something that was for me and it was an ego check I think for both of us for my father to be like okay I'll step away from my position as the leader of the team and also for me it's quite ballsy to be like oh everything's working but I just want to do it my way let fix something that's not broken at all yeah we just won time to make a change I mean that happens all the time now by the way it does in sport well I had a global question for you because we all watch these docks you watch tiger and you find out what his dad did verstappen and his father Serena and Venus their father do you think a kid can become a champion without that parent a friend of ours Charlie he was a college football player that was his life he's got two boys he's like I just don't really think I have it in him to stay on them enough to make them Champions and then we were just thinking like yeah can you become one without that what's interesting is there are many examples in the world of alternative Sports snowboarding skateboarding BMX all this and my hunch there is that those kids all to do it on their own because their parents weren't trying to fulfill any of their own fantasy of being in those roles so they didn't even care oh you're going to do that thing so we see it but we don't see it really in other sports do you think you can get a champion without being that kind of parent I think you need somebody in your corner that is pushing you and protecting you and they are very different roles and I think when you are not perhaps connected to the child as a parent the protection element is difficult to achieve at that level as a parent I felt very much since becoming a mother this wanting to be and wanting to do anything I could to be there for my son because I want him to be under my wing and feel that he's safe and secure and happy and I don't know if it's not someone that was with you from a young age and that has seen you grow up and that is just invested in you as a human being it's I think hard to build a skill of being like a protective parent and playing that role I haven't seen it often yeah do you know did you have any peers like we just watched the Beckham documentary too it's like the dad's like over and again and again and again and again and again and you wonder could he have ever done it on his own gumption without the again and again and his dad loved soccer so much so there's something vicarious that's happening with a lot of these parental figures where it works Tiger's dad he want to be a golfer but what's so interesting about these parent characters is it's not that they knew what success looked like because they themselves have never reached it at that level right and so it's so interesting to watch them go through their sons or their daughter's journey and how do they handle it and how do they keep their egos in check it's like a big yes so complicated it's very very complex your boy isn't old enough yet but already ours are eight and 10 and anything spectacular they do you have to check yourself your first thought is like yep I'm doing a great job I got to do that and then the other brother was like you didn't have anything to do with this thing genetically or this way and you know stop [ __ ] highing yourself my son made a owl sound and I I was like oh I mean genius genius he's got to be that came from me I know and then you go and it's because I read to him and I look him in the eye you take some ownership over their stuff I love that feeling though I was joking from the beginning cuz as I was cleaning like milk bottles I just looked back at my career and thinking of all the sports drink bottles that I would clean after a day of practice and I was like it is as if my previous life has set me up for success in this I've got this down repetition how many diapers have you changed it's all God more than Alexander oh boy putting him under the bus so you're career spectacular you're a career Grand Slam winner that sounds very fancy it is very fanc for people who don't maybe know that much about tennis okay so right there's a bunch of tournaments throughout the year there's four majors there's the Australian Open The French Open Wimbleton and US Open and if you were to win all of them in your career that's called a career gland Grand Slam if you win all could be a Glam slam too that' be cool well you know I was already starting to say the next thing which is a fun one which is a golden Grand Slam which is if you win an Olympic gold and a grand slam you can be a golden Grand there's a lot of different there's a lot of variety pick your own little holiday basket but your career is spectacular I am curious cuz you won silver in the London Olympics 2012 and there's been all this wonderful social science about the plague of silver people enjoy bronze they like winning a bronze they got to be up on the podium I mean I like bronze too yeah for my house fixtures yeah some nice Waterworks bronze were you bummed that you want a silver in the Olympics I guess that's my question it was the only Olympics that I competed in yeah cuz you couldn't go to Beijing because you had your rotator cuff yes and the first one after when was too late or too young one of those I don't even remember I of course as an athlete you want gold you want gold I mean I don't know way to say it a lay person would assume myself included if I want a silver in the Olympics I would be on top of the world but that's not the case it's very well documented yeah like in tennis it's either the Champions Trophy or that's it it's as if you weren't there yeah but there was huge significance in that the feeling of being part of like for a tennis player that plays so many events it does almost take away the meaning of what the Olympics is because you're just constantly going from one event to another and although the majors are where you want to perform the best the Olympics is at that level but it's once in four years so you move on to the next one I won that silver medal and I think I had to fly somewhere in the US to play another tournament so it's such a quick I know it sounds you don't have time to wallow you don't have time yeah that's kind of a blessing yeah in some ways yeah well in other ways it burbles up cuz you never processed it you're like arguing with your husband all of a sudden the silver medals somewhere there dangling is it on display anywhere no if you come to my home you wouldn't even know I played tennis well that's nice her and Architectural digest is gorgeous you saw her very sweet so beautiful I'm man I didn't see it you can see it I'm going to check it out I'm nosy [ __ ] I mean you did do your homework you've got the stats right but you can imagine where someone who does have a trophy case at home yes I you can imagine someone not putting their silver medal in it cuz it would remind them that they were mad I guess I guess but tennis I guess like you said it's sort of like basketball the US basketball team they just pop into the Olympics it seems like and they pop out they're back to their normal and they certainly rather win the NBA just add a little extra weight to their suitcase yes it's just an added thing it's not the most important thing it is special but you do move on very quickly just really quick if I had the silver medal that's how you'd have to knock on my front door it would be strapped to the front door and you'd have to use it to go CL yes it' be the knocker or a door stopper that would be also good you should dig it up and use it as a door stop sure I mean be my guest you can borrow it I would love to rent it off you and put it on great put it in here with all our knickknacks your knickknacks yeah it would look so good okay also interesting about your career it's not new but the level at which you did it was novel in that you were very very busy with lots of business as well you were the spokesperson I think people always had racket contracts and sneakers but you were doing fashion you were doing products you had what would otherwise be a very full-time job as a Ambassador for Brands did you enjoy all that I loved it I could see if you were shy it might be uncomfortable so I was eager to learn the amazing part about being in a room with big Brands is that these are individuals that are very smart they're the best of the best in marketing and advertisement CFOs to CEOs and it was like a free education on my day job and there was a choice just to be the face of a brand and to show up to Tiffany shoot or to a por shoot I mean I worked with Incredible Brands and I would say to myself why not use this opportunity to learn about the process like what does it take to put together a fashion shoot who's putting this together what are the pieces what are the responsibilities so when you show up to a shoot after knowing all this you're not just clocking your time you are understanding everything that goes on behind the scenes and that's what makes great events that's what makes great products so that's what I appreciated about those Partnerships but clearly it interested you the business aspect I acknowledge that tennis wouldn't be my entire life and it's really hard to do that as an athlete because it is your universe and it's such a big part of your identity and so you're afraid to realize that is a part of your life but it's not all of you yeah would feel dangerous to acknowledge that like you might lose your mojo exactly I love the idea I mean when I would travel and they would still have those forms that you'd fill out like your name and what's your occupation handwriting that I was an athlete brought so much joy to me yes like that was my identity but everything else that came with it like meetings with the sea of Nike and incredible brands that made me want to get in the weeds of a business that was fascinating and when I'd have time and I would be injured and that would happen a lot just cuz constantly an athlete and you're you know shoulder surgeries you have free time besides the rehab and getting yourself back and staying in shape you have time to learn I wanted to get in the weeds of businesses because for some reason I realized that this would be like my life moving forward I'm so fascinated the ultimate Rags the riches story if you come from the Soviet Union with $700 and then you become the highest paid female athlete for 11 years in a row what's the family's relationship with that abundance it's so funny I don't spend a lot on things that you think I spend on like shoes I like shoes but you go into my closet and you're like what where are the rest of the shoes I don't have a lot of things in my house because aesthetically I just appreciate less and so when I do buy I don't buy cheaply I definitely say that but I buy well in a way that I will live with these things like I will wear these shoes for a long time and I will rinse and repeat them and then I will buy a sofa that I'm going to reupholster in 5 years and I'm going to keep that sofa because I made a conscious decision that this was the right one for me and it's going to live with me so decisions that I make around money are around useful things I love to travel I genuinely love to explore and be uncomfortable and be comfortable I like to stay I like to be comfortable but I love like going down an alley and unexpectedly coming into an antique shop and finding that silver spoon that I'm never going to use but it's just like that you are really preacher to the choir oh those little shops and I love taking my friends on those Journeys I would only have two weeks of vacation every year maybe 10 days so one week a year I promise to my mom and to my friends that every November season I take them to an extravagant vacation nice so when I started making money I remember the first big moment holiday moment was I went to the Aman in puket yeah I must have gained I mean all I ate was like sticky rice and white rice and this rice mango rice how ironic you also worked with them on no yeah I become a wellness Ambassador as they call which is a funny title but I am curating Retreat so I'm bringing in talent that I used to work with in my career everything from recovery to breath work to Performance working out just like a holistic approach for their clients for 3 days so that's why I mentioned puket because our first one is going to be in in puket it yeah in February which is very exciting and you're taking Monica and I these athletes are week no they're inner athletes could definitely be but you have cute stories of like you won Wimbleton and you had been to California so many times as you already said and after Wimbleton you went to California but you stayed in a very nice hotel it actually wasn't that it was so nice it was definitely an upgrade from where we were staying before I went back to my coach for training week after winning Wimbledon after taking a couple days off and my manager booked us into a different hotel and we show up at this hotel and it's very close to the ocean you could hear the waves it wasn't an ocean view hadn't made that much money view but could hear the oce but it could hear the ocean and I went to the bathroom and there was a bath and there was like a yellow rubber duck I called my manager and I said I made it yeah I really made it but this is what I'm talking about like so this is the cute part of your story and I hope you're grateful for it because a lot of the kids you were playing tennis with at IMG they were already rich the parents were already sending them this $35,000 so when they made it they like bought a house next to the house they already grew up in there's really no sense of like God damn it there's rubber ducks in the tub so I just want to know did Mom and Dad I mean really came from a very modest background money is a very interesting dynamic IC when you go from having a little to a lot in a very quick turn no middle ground you don't learn to Middle Ground no middle ground and not only the relationship with money but the dynamic of the relationship between your parents and yourself as a youngster and money yes and you're giving your parents money exactly yeah that's a unique Dynamic for child and parent and I have to say it is one of the greatest gifts that my parents gave me was was they never had the desire to extravagantly spend the money that I provided for them well they probably have the same fear of it that I or anyone else perhaps but it's so easy to spend yeah it's so easy to be like oh that's a shiny car and I'm not personally fascinated by those things but I do appreciate like a great vacation with my friends I love shiny cars and I love treating them and vacations are the place to spend they're the experiences that's what they say you leave your everyday World your responsibilities it's very rare that we get to slow down and reflect yeah stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare were you lonely on tour it's a coin right on one side of the coin if you're on a team sport you share the losses to together which is helpful you share the victories together Which is less rewarding ego wise cuz it's also shared but probably for me all comes out in the wash I guess I'd prefer the team experience but it's such a solitary sport on that tour are people friends or is the competition so tough It's hard to make deep friendships and that's coming from my own experience of being in it and being a part of it on a daily basis it's just hard to say let's go have a shrimp cocktail and then tomorrow I just want to rip you apart yeah you need to protect your mentality I had difficulty with and I realized that I had difficulty with that from a very early age when I would go to the courts like that was my office it was the world where I would show up I would perform and win or lose I'd go home and I had my friends to call and my parents were there that was enough and that was okay but everyone is very different so there are people on tour that are I think so Hing around other players I don't know how you know is it an acquaintance is it a friend is it someone that you're going to see when you retire I have a fantasy for you that in retirement these people who have the same shared bizarre experience that really only they can relate to what you went through I have a fantasy of you having friends like post career that were also in it I don't know why that seems appealing to me for you yeah but we kind of forget it so quickly when people remind me about the daily grinds and the responsibilities that I had when I was in it every single day it seems like a long time ago because life takes you to new places and you have to show up for a new set of people and for now a child and new responsibilities you adjust and you get into that role and you just go with it I think it's hard though because I understand why you have that dream for her if that does happen I'll call you let you everyone's fine they don't need to do anything I'm saying but what I'm saying is like in the same way I get enormous comfort from sitting in a room with other alcoholics that know exactly what the experience is you don't have a ton of girlfriends you can sit down with and go like it's [ __ ] hard to be me and have a relationship what's interesting is I feel like you can perhaps not on that level and intensity but we all wherever we are in our lives at different stages we go through similar things yeah I never felt that I would sit down with my girlfriend and that they wouldn't get it right yeah like that's not a girlfriend okay I mean your best friend is not someone who's been through many of your life experiences post being a kid and he gets it but those are the key ones like I definitely need my best friend to know what that childhood was like I guess may just me my limitations last question I want to ask you is as we said 19 years you play professionally you have a week off a year where you go a puket what an enormous [ __ ] is left in your life afterwards now we know you filled it with the baby and you had covid do you think your entrepreneurship is what's there to take up that enormous focus and ambition is that what we've turned this dedication to yeah and I think the weaving thread is a mindset that I carried as an athlete it got me to some of the greatest moments of my career career and now tapping into those experiences and applying that mindset to the Endeavors that I'm a part of now one of the things I've learned in the last couple of years is as I've met Founders particularly female Founders is if you look at some of the stats like Fortune 500 companies 80% of the executive females have had a sporting background oh really competitive sporting background oh interesting and so you know when someone says oh you've done one thing how are you going to do it it's not that it's how do I apply the lessons that I learned and make them relative to what I'm doing now and so my mindset and the world of performance mindset something that I'm tapping into that I'm increasingly interested in because so many of the female entrepreneurs that I meet have had those backgrounds yeah you're very engaged with other female entrepreneurs yeah I'm getting a chance to learn about them and establishing what those ideas are and passing them on to others especially younger females your previous life had such specific goals they were given to you here's what the goal is how do you define what your goals are now in business such a great question it's different when someone ask me what my five or 10 year plan was as an athlete it was like well I just want to win more Grand Slams I want to be number one in the world and in business it's slightly different it's also slightly different being in my mid-30s and being a mom and juggling several things when I was tennis like although you could say I had a lot of things on my plate tennis was that one thing and now there's several and the goal is not about just one thing it's having a healthy balance between those things being present giving myself time being a little bit more relaxed and not constantly on and having to expect these high things from my body and from myself but growing I mean I've been deeply curious since a young age I love to learn I'm a sponge when it comes to like process and grind and getting inside of something in order to achieve greatness and so business is something that I continue to work on and there's so many things in business that I feel like I'm smart in a few and less so in others and so I want to improve the things that I'm not yet well established in there are much more abstract goals to set like I guess you could go I want to be number one in this market okay that could be a goal that's pretty hard but you're probably not going to go I want to make this amount of money or I want the value of the company to be this amount like your goals now are going to get a lot more opaque yeah and that's okay I'm okay with that you are cuz it's such a 180 from what you had like again you could visualize so easily it was so prescriptive and this is up to you to decide what I like about this chapter is that you have time to form those goals whereas when you're start at something from a young age that is the goal that's what you're going to it's almost determined for you and now I feel like I'm in a position to shape what that is I mean I would love to be able to mentor and touch and be part of young females lives to help them grow from school or their academic to their first job or helping them decide what is the next chapter emphasizing their great qualities and potential there's so many female athletes that are at this Junction in sport where they want to do more but they don't know how they don't know where what resources are they tapping into what's the team I would love to be part of those individuals Journeys that's lovely did you watch the Beckham dock I have okay I love documentaries so good we loved it but towards the end one of the other players said that athletes are addicts and that's their addiction and then when that ends like when it's retired I mean then you see like we keep talking about it Beckham with one mushroom at a time and it's like so clean that [ __ ] grill for an hour and a half appreciated that quality by the way of course to Alexander I was like what do you see how his closet is organized you don't dress as cool you don't have the tattoos at least you could [ __ ] clean like him I mean well he's British at least right he is British yeah that's half there yeah I mean there's still many things like I put my left shoe on first little yes all these quirky little things what's the most Preposterous part of your old routine could you tell us the most embarrassing one did you have to turn a faucet on and off three times or anything weird I didn't step on lines like when I could avoid them okay good I had my little routine in between points where I'd look at my strings kind of like get my strings together it was always I did it 10 time or 10 strings or something oh I want to go back and watch this it was like my little routine in between the points but I think a routine like then becomes a habit and then just becomes I can't live without doing this yeah but did you have like I'm going to lose a match if I don't putting your left shoe on first is very specific that's the kind of thing I like you appreciated that one I did the weirder the better I think that addiction thing was very accurate absolutely well and most specifically I think if you look at what an addiction is it's using something externally to regulate how you feel internally and that is the ultimate display of that yeah yeah in your case like I'm going to control the stupid [ __ ] ball man and that is how I will regulate everything emotional and internally yeah but there's been a lot of Letting Go which I think is a good I mean at least that's what I keep telling myself it's a good thing it'll probably come back up I'm sure when there's a bully in your kids school the old competitor will come up okay then the last thing I'm going to say is in your many entrepreneurial Endeavors the one that I don't know how you had the foresight to get involved with in 2014 is super go super is the greatest sunblock of all time I agree it's fantastic oh right we can't call it sunblock sunscreen I can't tell you I enjoy putting it on more than like a moisturizer it's the only one I've ever wanted to use what a great plug for them and I nothing to do with them I don't own stock in it but uh it's a funny story oh tell me it was the first investment I ever made really wow yes all the previous brand Partnerships it was just like an annual deal retain you know you get your check at the end of the year but you took Equity yes this is the first time I had equity in the company at the time when they had less than 10 employees wow and I almost knocked on Holly ther's door who's the founder and I just said this is the only sunscreen that just doesn't get in the way of my sweat and I don't have to rub my eyes and my eyes don't itch and I said listen I don't know what position you're in financially I don't want any money from you I want to help you grow I love your product I've worn it for almost a year now and if there's any way I can help grow this message and she said the only message I want to grow is that skin cancer is preventable it's the one cancer that is preventable and the way she positioned it was that imagine that we had a cream to prevent breast cancer yes so it completely changed my perception and we got into business together that's awesome it is such a good product yeah it's the only one I'm really willing to wear repeatedly I [ __ ] love it it's so silky here's what's confusing silk yeah it's silky this one on smooth I think it's silky I just didn't think that I'd hear that from you yeah very silky ironically I'm also kind of obsessed with Victoria Beckham's face moisturizer that has a tint in it these are these little flavors of me that I have okay I'm learning a lot more but I'm going to go even further with super goop they should give me some Equity if you look at the top toothpastes personally I'm a Crest 3D White Guy I like it it's my preferred toothpaste do I think it's three standard deviations above the next best one I don't I think it might be a half standard deviation above I mean we don't even know what's in it probably I don't know and I don't care my teeth are proof that it works but I would say this super goop it's like four standard deviations above second place right I don't even know what second place would be but yes but it's astronomically better it's like Shawn White's old runs in halfpipe you're like well these guys aren't even doing the same Sport AS him are you sure they're not paying you for this they should be I mean they're going to send you a nice gift package I am so passionate about super goop you know this about me though right I'm going to tell holly I knew you loved it so much I mean I love I order like five at a time and I hide them cuz my family likes them you're going to get like a okay I like the big you know they have the big ones with the pump they have a family pack can we rename it I have my own line there called daddy long legs you kept bringing up cold G or what do you Crest CR 3D White your Crest 3D White white and I do think there's a toothpaste that's four standard deviations it's so funny the toothpaste she lik I don't want to be disparaging about any brand get to toothpaste because I had to give an example of and I couldn't not then think about the I don't want to say anything disparaging it's the best toothpaste I may have just looked over to the sink cuz it's like literally inside the room to see what she is [ __ ] baking soda Arman Hammer brand stop laughing I her teeth look pretty good thank you that's cuz your Skin's Brown and your white teeth pop you know you're getting a bump from yours you want I mean sorry to all other toothpaste and this is gross for all of you guys using other toothpaste every time I use other toothpaste I get sometimes this weird stringy stuff in my mouth what and also I get mouth ulcers it's the only toothpaste that does that because it has baking soda right anyway give it a try report back may that'll be your next investment sounds like it they've been in the market for quite a while okay well this has been a blast thank you for this fun yeah it's so fun I would have never in my wildest dreams when watching you play tennis think I will one day probably chat with you about toothpaste and super I did not think we'd go there either yeah I appreciate the curveball we take it all over is there any product you don't represent that you think is just stunning what outfit are you wearing cuz you look really nice and cute thank I'm actually the row my God you're so right shoes are the row I know the row this is actually the row I really dressed it down today it's the minimal mix messages yeah were they calling now quiet luxury um quiet luxury I actually hate that phrase I liked it cuz Kristen just told me I was accomplishing it in New York oh she did yeah with my um Burberry yeah I had my Burberry sweatshirt I love her so much that's actually the opposite because well I'm now remembering she didn't say I had it she was explaining her outfit as that makes way more sense cuz yours is so clearly berbery and the whole point is that you don't necessarily know the brand that's quiet like no yeah subtle details you know yeah okay all right all right this this has been a blast I hope you have a really fun evening uh away from your child in a driver and I hope you go get a drink find your way six or seven drink who knows okay all right be well thank you so much thank you next up is the fact that I don't even care about facts I just want to get in your [Music] pants all right let's start okay we're in happy birthday we were gossiping I don't want to make anyone feel like they missed out but believe it or not there is even stuff that can't be said on here true we even have another layer who could believe it cuz we're so open sure it's almost your your birthday okay well hold on we have stuff to go over we had eventful weekends okay right y let's start with a trip a best girlfriend's trip to the desert yes I took a trip with cie we did a did you drive in your no Cali drove she did what kind of car does she have she has a hybrid electric hybrid Volvo okay you should have taken it's a really nice I know it's a nice it is a nice car but it is not a c43 yeah well she wanted to drive I think okay well yeah she's getting away from that baby she wants to feel independent Yeah well yeah so Callie was trying a first night out yeah from her little one yeah and so we did a a one night trip to Palm Springs we stayed at a fun hotel and on the way there we went to the outlet mall which I cannot believe there's a Burberry Outlet I didn't think those Brands had Outlets it's really rare yeah the Legacy whatever we what do we call luxury luxury brand LVN what are the other conglomerates oh I'm impressed you knew that well what one does Francois own does he own LVN franois salma's fris he owns that oh he owns the whole group yeah yeah and I think he's accumulated what's it called um it's not v n y y LV or Ys l no no that's you LVN F I think there's another letter in it oh maybe see what you see see and be seen now it's it's getting confused because it thinks I'm talking about Louis Vuitton you're talking about sahay ex husband yeah Francois what king what's P penal LV MH LV MH there we go the MH okay Herm Louis Vuitton a Aon Seline wait it's him I can't believe yeah he owns the biggest luxury brand conglomerate in the world hold your horses okay he's a CEO of King karing yeah I don't see his name King is also a luxury okay so he's not lvmh okay so karing owns Gucci Balenciaga oh BGA vaneta BGA yes YSL greed and Alexander McQueen and I think Seline maybe won't make him look up more I can't pronounce any of these words either okay so he owns another wow Gucci K cureg cureg curing there's an how do you spell it k e r i n g caring Selen is owned by lbmh I just saw that oh anywh who yes luxury Brands Galore yeah and what are what percentage would you say the savings are is it half price is it 10% is it 30 depends on like these shoes so I have I'm wearing new shoes yeah they're Prada there's a Prada outlet there wow lvmh um actually I don't think it is I'm going tell fr to buy product oh he's got to buy Burberry so I can get a discount wow you guys are that close no but I did hang out with him in Paris and he did offer he said any store you want to go to of mine yeah I'll give you a code and you can get it was a significant percentage off wait then yeah you need that so he needs to own burbury so I can get the code fori I have shoes I could have had so much savings yeah I have yet to find an item at Gucci that's like called is my name yet they don't have much like Street Wear loafers loafers yeah I don't like loafers I like clunkier stuff yeah I love a loafer okay yes it has Burberry and a lot of it is like last season stuff oh I wouldn't know or other season same other previous Seasons so it's it's discounted and then sometimes there's additional savings look it's all still expensive because it's expensive Brands yes yes but it is much cheaper than buying it off I wish they did this with cars and motorcycles cuz that's my thing I wish there was an outlet mall and you go like oh yeah they're selling Ford Raptor RS for 45 Grand over there used car dealerships that doesn't do it for me but that's kind of similar well it's not it's brand new the used Market's the used Market yeah you're right CU there's a used market for clothes as well real real real real that's right wow you know so much you knew kind of lvmh and you do know real real and I know friend SW yeah that's yeah this is kind of a ding- ding ding cuz Maria Sharapova that's who this is for oh perfect is a fashionista she was wearing toe I think she was wearing all the row or she was at least wear row she was adorned in head to row speaking of that's why I'm I'm kind of like is Fran SW gonna give you a discount because like you dated Ashley and she doesn't that's probably more reason to not get a discount although no not all my previous you're like if Carrie owned the row she we would have a discount yeah and if Bri owned the row we'd own a dis we'd have a discount we own a discount we would own officially a discount wait [ __ ] that's really true like I wish carrier Bri owned the row yeah that would be I'd be so excited for either of them they both deserve it yeah maybe they'll start a fashion car be great at it she's very entrepreneurial oh yeah she owns an insurance company and she's on it yeah she even hit me up she's like Ted seagers let me know what insurance she got right on it I don't have any employees or anything so but that's great yeah unfortunately I don't need her Services I know for insurance I know I know any who you get to Palm Springs you do some shopping and are you guys shopping soulmates and that you both want to be in the store the exact same amount of time cuz I feel like inevitably some person wants to be there longer than another person we're really good at it you are yeah yeah we've been doing it I mean that's what you did 10,000 hours plus together that's your hobby that's your um me and the Sand Dunes man I wish I had dated in the time of like the peak of my Mall era and I could just walk around with my boyfriend at the mall my favorite thing was going to the 12 Oaks Mall with five boyfriends and cruising around and meeting a group of girls and then like eating at Burger King like I made out with a girl in the Burger King bathroom one at them allall wow yeah it was so fun but I mean more like I had a boyfriend then and then that's how we hung out like I guess what I'm saying is I wish I could go to the mall now with your with a partner on a date you should suggest that it feels like they'd be like you're a kid that ship sailed yeah and then now like what we go into Hollister and then he's waiting outside like my dad oh you think he'd just wait in the car to pick you up okay that's not much of a date as much as a ride to the mall is what you're looking for can we go on a date to the mall and you don't have to come in cuz I in fact don't don't come in I'm just going to end up annoying you cuz I'm going to be in there for forever and you just sit in the car and enjoy like bring watch listen to music watch something on your uh iPhone yeah you like to watch movies on your iPhone maybe that's how you start the whole conversation hey Mark just do you like watching movies on your iPhone no but you will perfect that sounds great let's go to the mall on a day you drop me off I go shopping I get so horny when I'm shopping oh my God and then I come out and I'm Yours seven hours later maybe I'll try it out okay see tell me how it goes but nothing we want to say chitch I feel like that ride you want you I know want that's okay there was none yeah I don't think so so I mean we actually talk we talked a ton about family stuff because I'm I'm I'm I have a family thing happening right now I don't know if I'm ready to talk about it okay well I don't know is it I'm more am afraid to talk about it cuz I don't know if they want me talking about it totally fair yeah oh but I do want to give you credit it okay fine I'll say Okay um my grandfather's in the hospital yeah he broke his hip and he had surgery and it's been a whole like scary for everyone yeah he hit his head and so there's blood everywhere and like the ambulance had to come and and he's you know he's really old and he's already like he has dementia and it's it's kind of like any day you know we're already like I don't know any day yeah and then this feels like oh it's this is the insane cruelty of all this right so like Barton you'll remember this story uh listener advisory what's coming next so you might want to skip forward 30 seconds I'll try to wrap it up in 30 seconds so he's dying he is in hospice he is in a hospital bed in their room my mom and his room and my mom's like making them breakfast in the kitchen and and she hears hun hun you're going to want to come in here and up to that point his testicles had swelled up so huge he said they were like grapefruit and somehow they just ruptured and there was blood spurting from the bed all the way up in hitting the ceiling yeah and you're like well what do we do you're in hospice so technically you're not allowed to get any medical service at that point that prolongs your you've already declared it I know like what should we do they end up same thing you know ambulance huh well that well now we probably have to pay for it I don't know about insurance cuz it's hospital we have to ask harrie you will have to ask her um let's get her on the phone um and then get rushed there and end up getting this procedure to stop the bleeding and blah blah blah blah blah you know and retrospect she and I both thought out loud like that might have been the that might have been the time to just let cuz apparently bleeding nut's kind of a peaceful way to go really yeah from your balls into the ceiling though well sure you're like you're seeing your virility right before you die wow it's hitting the ceiling that's impressive you can't like the thing somewh else no you but you can't you can't as a loved one see that happening and not stop it you can't I know in you're you think you're prepared and you're prepar you've already said we're in hospice like we already know we're counting down the days until you die but then this weird thing pops up and then you're kind of like well now what what's the game plan as I've said in the past the part that's the most uncomfortable for me other than losing loved one is just the anxiety of what is the right course of action what's the most responsible thing what's the most Humane thing what's all these things and you just it's so unknown I know and the hits keep on coming but we both concluded cuz it got worse after that it became Less Pleasant for him he was rotating through these you know positions on stuff so we were both like huh that might have been you know yeah in retrospect so my dad call or my dad sent me a text and said call me when you can which is and we were about to start flightless bird and I oh God okay and and of course that to me is bad news Y and so when I called I was expecting just he died then there's so many feelings of like guilt so much guilt mixed in with all this because also hard one I think for people to say out loud is like also sometimes relief well exactly so when the phone was ringing I had already established like okay he's calling to tell me that Grandpa died so I'm like wait waiting for for him to pick up and all of a sudden I got this like crazy Rush of fear what if he's calling me to tell me somebody else has died like what if something else really bad happened and so when he said hey so Grandpa fell down and I was relieved sure that it wasn't your mom or your brother yes or hand with a bad yeah and I was like oh my god well there's naturally a priority list but G like it's just it's just so much to hold now he's in all this pain and they can't give him too much pain medication blood pressure he had a surgery so then that was another piece my dad was like I guess he's going to have surgery tomorrow and and I said what yeah how are and but but for them it was the same thing he's in so much pain right I guess we got to do a surgery that will try to help that and probably he's committing to never standing up again before dies if he doesn't get the operation but he has some hope of being able to walk I guess it's just everyone is yeah forced to make these kind of crazy decisions so then I was like well he's not going to make it through the surgery uhhuh and so then the next morning I'm waiting to hear that call yeah and I'm trying and I'm about to go to Palm Springs with Cali and I'm also think I'm like do I what do I do do I come home right now if if I do come home right now does it do how's that helping anything GH and so then my mom called and said he had the surgery healthy as a horse fine yeah yeah I mean he wasn't healthy as a horse I guess I kind of took it as that when she said it then turn then at like 8:00 p.m. she she was like he still isn't woken up from anesthesia and he has 101 degree fever I like okay this sounds really bad again like what but then now I mean he is awake and he healthy as a horse they're saying I think the medical term they used healthy as a he's okay but they're eventually like he'll come home and it will be hospice I think or this is a hack this is an insurance hack but this is weirdly how I got my father's pallative care paid for was he had in addition to the heart disease in the cancer that was all over his body he also had gout bad enough that his feet were swelled up and he couldn't walk MH so I got him in a longer term physical rehab place where he had his own room and like this dream scenario he would have never had elsewhere with the lie that he's undergoing yes some Rehabilitation for his feet so that in a weird way this might end up being a way to buy yourself time where you're not committing to hospice but you're getting some in-house care for the rehabilitation originally when my mom was first breaking down the surgery she was she was like well he won't be home for a while because after the surgery he'll have to go to this rehab place so that was part of the plan again in my head I was thinking for what he's going to go to a rehab place so he can so he can again what what but then when I talked to them yesterday I think they are scratching that plan okay he doesn't he can't like he doesn't know he can't speak English anymore oh he can't no he only speaks molum he only knows my grandmother really like it's and he just scream it's like it's not a good situation he's not to be out in a different environment other than his own exactly anyway I'll to say it's been a kind of emotional couple days and weekend um but then you did something very sweet you sent my mom texted me and said that you sent them flowers my mom flowers which was really kind did she like that I called her Nery did she mention that that part well it's funny dad did though angrily yeah yeah that's my name that's my name for you keep her name out of your mouth you said it wrong and now that's your name oh mine is nury so his is nimi oh great so he and I both have a lane yeah yeah okay great there's no overlap um yeah well I I first I needed their address I wondered I so I hit Neil up um but then I was like using my worst case estimate for what Neil might be so busy and when will he get back to me and I want to send these flow so then I just did a Google search d and I got their address and then yeah so so then I just I wanted to get them there Saturday which was not possible so I put in a rush order and everything but it ended up being Sunday but regardless I then wrote Neil back CU I didn't want I wanted to alleviate him so I was just like hopefully it's this because I committed to what I found on the internet and then to my uh relief he said yeah that's the right address that was very sweet well I was thinking about how sad you were and um and then I thought well that's nur's dad she's the daughter she's you know probably however much more sad yeah yeah it's and you can't do anything you can't do anything all you can do is let people know like hey I see what you're going through in life and I'm sorry that's what's happening well it was the right thing cuz I think it really gave her a little spring in her Stu yeah I made her feel best money I've spent in a year then she want to take me to lues is it thank you more yeah lues are [Laughter] my family's not good at that receiving no we're not good at we're just not good at emotions well by the way that crossed my mind like is this something she would prefer not rece going to break her or something not even break just like again I only know what I know yeah where I'm from anyone would like to know someone was thinking about you but I don't know if there was you know 6% of my brain that was like she might feel like her privacy has been invaded that it's none of my business or that now she's self-conscious of this thing that's private she's going I I don't those are all options and you're just you're trying to make a calculated gamble that it's the right thing I guess yes well it was oh that's good even though it was not conventional I think that's why it had such an impact because people don't do that like no one else is doing that no one else is I didn't do it well well also I'm a you're all suffering right so it's not like her sister's going to do it to her her mom's not going to do it to her it's just whatever like whoever's out of the padman circle that's still I know really really nice I and I I bet a lot of people struggle with this like I don't really know what to do I don't know if I need to go right I'm already going home in a couple weeks yeah it seems a little crazy to go unless before I know but I guess it's for it would be for me right but then what am I getting yeah that's hard it is you'll be able to go see him as he's recovering in a couple weeks well that's my hope but like things take a what if they take a crazy turn I again yeah I guess it's more for me like how I feel decide what you're going to want to live with and you decide whether that's going to haunt you or not and I I don't know why it would given you're going to go see him in a couple weeks well it's only going to haot me if he dies yeah but even at that point he won't he won't know I know so it's just what whatever weight you decide to put on yourself about it like do I you have a you don't have a great longing to see him right now do you I have a I have a confusing feeling there is a sense of familial piety like this is what you're supposed to do I guess a little bit of that but it's it's actually more I mean we're we were so close yeah yeah that if I'm there like he'll he'll know he'll feel yeah sure and I do want him to have that and he's gonna anyway anyway so that's that but what about yourek wait hold on well my life has ended because we finished coup's therapy I know so life's over but luckily jet again and then Jackie independently both said you need to watch uh love has won have you heard of this doc Elizabeth and Andy have talked about it yeah it's wild it's a cult thing too right it's a cult doc about mother God right yeah and it's it is so out there already it's pretty wild yeah we're we're hooked I love a you know me and cult docks yes I've yet to see a cult doc I didn't I wasn't grateful I I spent the time on okay even when they're not great I love I love them I agree um I started the curse have you started that yeah I've started that one okay what's that it's Nathan Fielder Nathan oh right the the um the trailers look incredible yes it's also so bizarre I I didn't I haven't finished the first episode so it was spoilers it's really fascinating is it reality or scripted it's scripted but it's it's shot like satire about reality show like kind of and white saviors it's really yeah it's good I think I mean I I'm not that far in commend okay I'm on it all right well this is for Maria great style I'm going to give you a couple more I didn't do any updates one is I went to sphere on Friday huge update with with Eric Molly Jen and Larry trailing oh fun oh that's lovely that Larry and Jen boy I what a special couple nice yeah I feel so lucky to be spending time with them now um it was extraordinary that place is extraordinary it's me everything well I just was thinking like what's cool about is it's not something you would go to once the programming inside's going to change every time there's a concert there and the programming is so interesting and exciting like I want to keep going wow it's wild there's points where like they make the whole you're sitting where you'd be sitting if there was no sphere and it's all of Vegas around you but it's really Vegas and there's cars moving so you you feel feel like you're completely outside oh my God in a parking lot watching you two play for a minute and then you're in the desert and you're in like the prettiest part of the Vegas desert and it's everywhere and you're like it's and it's bright all of a sudden I was thinking if you're on drugs that's a probably a rough part of it yeah where it's like you're jamming to you two and it's dark and trippy and then all of a sudden you're it's like high noon in the desert you're probably like oh [ __ ] I'm supposed to be asleep oh wow I don't know also there was a couple clearly on Mandy MDMA okay that's what Jethro calls it in England call it Mandy instead of Molly and it makes more sense Mandy MMA that's amazing yeah this couple was on hundreds of hits of Mandy I guess they were standing the entire show making out oh for two hours I don't know how they didn't [ __ ] like I'm Blown Away they didn't clothes didn't come off they were passionately standing and making out the whole time but is it unsettling no I loved it no not them the The Experience no no there were some some more I guess aggressive kind of poppy type things that were neon okay those weren't my favorite ones but then there was just like at the end there was this incredible you were underwater Oh the Illusions they can create because it's completely a dome they make it look dead square like all of a sudden now you're in a rectangled room and the dimensions they've got it all worked out I don't know how everywhere you sit the Illusions working work cuz clearly the letters have to be different shapes and and complying with that point of view so the math of it is like mindboggling that they can make and then of course they can do it where you're looking up to almost infinity and you can't tell that it's not going to Infinity did you feel nauseous at all no did anyone no and like Jen and Kristen were both nervous it was going to be too much stimulation for them but it wasn't everyone was cool oh [ __ ] you want me to name drop oh sure well remember did you end up watching the models doc yeah loved yeah and do you remember who I said my favorite was no there was such a clear favorite for me Chrissy Turlington yep yeah she's great we went down to the floor for the last third of it I was dancing right next to her the whole time wow that's exciting she was there fun yeah great dancer oh great she was living up to the what you wanted her to be from the dock you okay great it was great fun there's people on the floor [ __ ] their mind wow and could anyone just go down to the floor or you had passes I don't know how that worked we had some help from the folks at the sphere okay they were very very nice and helpful to us that's nice yes we were very spoiled I wonder who else is going to play there I know I can't wait to go back it's so cool it's and the fact that there's 18,000 people in there is crazy that's how do you think my would have held up I think it would have been fine okay I do I do they must be semiconscious of the stroke strobing this but there were some practical strobing as at any concert there some light strobes at some point yeah and then yeah it was great it what have worked out great for for me is all my favorite songs happen to be at the end and it was while we were on the floor for dancing and stuff and it was great it was so much fun um and then that's not even the highlight of the musical weekend so then last night was Lily's birthday party karaoke missed it yeah and they should rename karaoke to Taylor Swift that's it because it was a 14-year-old's birthday party so there was like I don't know a dozen or 15 teenage girls and every single song that was played was T Swift did you sing no I wanted to yeah and I was saying this is not your time oh that's nice yeah of course first song is Lily singing Taylor Swift uhhuh and I start reflecting on the fact that I met her when she was a seven-year-old little girl crazy and I'm cry oh wow okay crying first song crying Taylor Swift seeing how excited these girls are again about it was Era all over again yes and uh Lincoln and Dolly is sang a Taylor Swift song so of course now I'm crying about that oh wow and then Delta and Kristen sang a Frozen song oh sweet and you cried then of course cuz I'm like I'm just so happy for Kristen that she got to to sing that thing with her little girl what could be sweeter so special I I did not want to go I don't want to go to a teenage birthday party in Korea Town on a Sunday night at 6:00 p.m. to do karaoke yeah and by God immediately I was having a great time and it was so fun and heartwarming great great weekend for you great weekend really greatek great station okay Maria Maria I only have one fact okay great but it is a really important one because it's the one that everyone in Los Angeles can't stop talking about including us which is why do we still have daylight savings when we all voted yes years ago yes to get rid of four years ago now now this is from NBC San Diego oh.com why are we still changing our clocks for daylight saving time in the US back in March 2 2022 the US Senate unanimously passed the sunshine protection act that would have made day Savings Time permanent starting in November 2023 which means Americans would stop switching their clocks back or forward twice a year the bill was stalled in the house and it expired oh [ __ ] however Senator Rubio reintroduced the sunshine protection act of 2023 on March 2nd to make Daylight Savings Time permanent Across the Nation okay didn't Californians vote to remove daylight savings time in 2020 yes Californians did so why are we still changing our clocks then prop 7 2018 that prop passed by nearly 60% of the vote giving the California legislator the ability to change daylight savings time so that's the weird trick we passed it but all it did was give the legislator the ability to change it exactly that's what it says prop 7even didn't actually change daylight savings time it just gave the state legislator the ability to actually change it if they earn a two-thirds vote on it and if the federal government already allows it oh [ __ ] it's dependent on the federal government yep oh jeez why is Arizona able to just do it they you know Arizona hasn't had it for decades I don't get it yeah I hate it it is dark at 4:15 yeah I will say though I've been enjoying because I wake up kind of early to meditate and I really appreciate if there's some sunlight I can stare at you're my enemy you know I mean I I don't want it yeah but I I have been finding the silver lining of it which is when I meditate it's not dark out o boy do I hate it anyway that's the fact that's the fact and it's really tune in for the fact check the fact check I'm glad you read that so now now my expectations will be in the toilet where they should have been for the last three years exactly we were living on Hope and it was wrong yeah entirely well we have one more week of regular episodes and then we have some fun end of year stuff coming your way making it fun at the end of the year and then we have a week off and then we're back in Jan for a whole new a whole new year whole new year some resolutions yes some commitments some new commitments some um some reflecting on the old ones yeah we need to write down what or we guess we could just listen we to what we said yeah yeah I wonder if we achieved any actually that's kind of fun maybe we should play it okay on our first episode back oh my God what let's go out with this the first one's going to make you jealous oh man but I need you to rest assured that you'll be taken care of okay okay D oh yeah where at D we we listening though at last man I I'm I'm so glad we we got a chance to chop it up I'mma hit you up when I'm back oh [Applause] that's inredible can't tell you how Smiley I was when I got that now here's part two here's part two [Music] God yeah send it over there I got somebody too for Monica I got somebody I got somebody and and and uh please Kristen much love my soul sister oh I mean wow how do I move in with him I just need to know how I immediately move in with him God he's incredible oh my God so sister so special oh my God I love it he's actually doing exactly what I'd hope someone with that superpower would do which is just like Let It Rip all the time about nothing just send people messages yeah oh man love it oh John oh John you changed our lives he really did he's life he's a life-changing person oh my true all right well I love you I love you [Music]