Jenn Tran Returns, Fyre Festival Rebooted, NFL Vibes vs Knowledge, and Foo Fighters’ Dave Grohl

Intro you're [Music] crazy what's going on everybody welcome back to another electric episode of the v files reality recap Edition sorry I'm it's late Nick here uh Lake Nick is here so wait can we can we have a different like not it's not Nick it's like Lake Nick no no no no it's not NE yes sneak okay I have to work on letting that roll off the tongue NE yeah or like Nathan I don't know if you want something boring but like not neck you know I think we we responded the most to Nick okay anyways anyways we're at the lake Nick really threw me off I'm so sorry I just felt like you needed a name you know anyways I'm Nick host of the show that was weird uh the households here we got Sierra Justin and introducing we we figured you know what honestly she did such a good job of putting together Vibes versus stats uh welcome Mary what's up Queen Mary I'm here for Vibes she's here for the Vibes not knowledge a couple housekeeping notes before we get into the episode the wonderful and Charming your bachelorette of the moment moment Jen Tran is with us she's back she is back she is in studio with us uh right after her ex Devon decided to go Full Tilt declining our invitation to have a just you know maybe just thoughtful kind of just give it its space conversation yeah share a story maybe we' challenge him keep him fair I'll dig myself a Hole uh you know he went on Instagram and and uh posted a I don't know what 15minute video or something like that anyways he released texts he didn't miss a beat I mean he he shared every single text they've ever sent to each other which was just like wild wild I mean he posted them yeah do you think there's a difference between sharing I think or posting I think read being able to someone Tex and they said this blah blah blah blah blah versus yeah posting is there a difference yeah I think being able to look at someone's phone sharing and Define posting like the difference you thinking posting to social media I was like Justin n just texted me this crazy [ __ ] she said blah blah blah blah blah blah blah or well not even look at this like I'm just telling you I'm just reading it to you I'm reading you the text versus putting up screenshots yeah for sure yeah a difference the fact that he went through and like redacted photos and whatnot means that you spent time going through each one of these slides and posting them and didn't think to yourself maybe this one doesn't need to be included like good mornings no need yeah no need yeah yeah he seemed to have gone too far the only thing I learned from from Devin showing all of these texts was they use a lot of emojis yeah they like emojis and not just like hearts but like but like the emo like the the niche emojis that you don't really ever use I I'm going to go ahead and defend them please I I I'm it's not a critique I'm interested I wish I was more Emoji I wish I I wish I was more creative with my emoji I think I don't I rarely ever swipe through them you know how it has the like recommended what you I am there so like just yesterday when posting maybe the household's best szz of all time the uh wiv drama it was really it was really beautiful it really elicited a moment really it was it was wonderfully artistic congratulations member of the household Zach sent me the caption and the caption was something like tomorrow they're are our secrets and and Zach very creatively decided to add the sh Emoji I won't throw him under the bus that was my choice there's no throwing under the bus I actually actually quite like I loved it you know I was like had a little sass to it Zach does love his emojis but but I'm always thinking like I'm posting as me on my show and should I be like posting an emoji that goes you know so I said lose the Emoji and at the end of the day to be honest I wish I could just own the fact that like I thought the Emoji was a good idea and and [ __ ] the Judgment but sadly sometimes like we are only human and I'm just saying that like these are two people who spent I don't know n hours together before they got engaged and then they went their separate ways and then they uh are able to hang out every two to three weeks locked in a I don't know 2,000 squ foot house in La it's crazy um so when they're text maybe they're just very like nervous about being like misunderstood or you know you know how we always critique texting texting not the best form of communication so they're just trying to really add color you know and excitement or you know energy to the text cuz they don't want to be misconstrued maybe that was the intent behind the Emojis yeah maybe I also did learn that her secret name was Coco Chanel love I love that too her pet name was Coco Chanel Coco Chanel that's a Bouie you know when we talk to Jen I would love to introduce her as Coco Chanel but I I I imagine she feels a certain way oh I'm sure she like absolutely is not interested in hearing that word again we'll be really in we'll engage but they don't call each other that they don't I don't know that was just the name that he had in her phone in his phone so that people wouldn't know it was her you know what I'm going to add some context to that okay please uh after you get engaged as there are nosy people in this world and and Jen is a celebrity that when you exchange numbers you make up fake names so that uh if people like were to look at your phone so they you know they came up with Coco Chanel you just unlocked a memory in my head my high school student go teacher gave me her phone number and she was like it cannot be my name and I had like this fake name that she had to prove in my phone that was her phone number why oh my God her name was Patricia on my phone Patricia interesting why was your teacher and then like when they're filming when they're filming we're wait you're glossing over something that we need to understand why your teacher was like take my number but don't tell anyone it was yeah wait what cuz she was afraid I don't know that students were going to like prank her but why did you have but why did you get it CU I was as vice president hello oh perr yeah it was appropriate yeah she was a little I got to say if uh if if River comes home one day and says my teacher gave me her number and insisted uh she will use the word insisted when she said it and insisted uh that she she used a fake name alarm Bells would go off I mean for sure for sure I don't want I don't want to dive too deep into Justin's childhood too much trauma there next too much trauma okay what do you think Jen's level of sense of humor about this is it's like it's a Well if we say hey Coco Chanel like that's a that's a big test on her I don't think so no no yeah no nobody wants to be reminded of their ex the wound is fresh household headlines I thought I thought we're just Buri we're Household Headlines not in already oh I don't know are we sure no yeah yeah oh okay period take it away Justin keep the ball rolling James Earl Jones he has passed away r r baby do you know um well do you know who James Earl Jones is well no okay uh so then I imagine you wouldn't know the two iconic voices that he voiced um for Darth Vader really period did you look at the notes no Justin accidentally said it earlier you really remember and you were like let me see if he did Darth Vader I'm going to get yes he also did completely don't go SpongeBob that's a good guess actually he has range uh Mufasa oh sexy he was also in the sand lot oh and he yes he was the dreams he's in fielded dreams he was in like shockingly not enough stuff he must have been very selective or he must have made just jillians just making like commercials with his voice and probably didn't have to do I'm sorry jilan did theater as well I think anyways he was an incredible actor uh he was also in the um the Harrison Ford um movies when clear and present danger and hunt for October oh my God were these in like the 1920s what's going on here maybe every all of us like in the room were like yeah I love that movie Sierra have you heard of any of these he wasn't coming to America yes he he played the king I love that one mhm he's very like oh my God that guy yeah yeah no he is Iconic well that's sad that he's passed away what was the cause of his death uh not public yet he's he was 93 oh maybe just time hell of a run hell of a run 93 yeah it's more it's not it's a celebration of life absolutely but good news super good news Princess of Wales Royals Kate is cancer free yeah hell yeah good for her that's amazing we confirm it was not bangs it wasn't a BBL it wasn't it was it was cancer I think people stopped speculating once they like just let it out before congratulations Kate we are so happy for her and her family um bad news good news yeah the one-offs are really hard to really get into you know and it's just a oneoff but the world needs to know I will say the video that they released like announcing that she's cancer-free was really pretty so like it was good that they kind of combed the media with like a good yeah like very honest like beautiful story that she spoke for herself which is love that we love that on another note so we all know what fire Festival is right yeah I Fyre Festival 2 thought I was going to throw this second one at my wedding oh that's funny he didn't trust the process I wasn't sure if it was going to all come together and it was certainly worthy uh and glad we did it but not inexpensive uh and so I was a bit concerned leading up that it uh the money was spent people were going to show up people were going to show up what was going to happen after that I was unclear someone who was not at either yours was gorgeous and it wasn't fire Festival we've been sitting on our their full length wedding video cuz we shared so much in the beginning um I don't know if that's something anyone wants to see anymore it's really good it's really good it's maybe the best video I've ever seen probably a little biased but we could post it as a video on Instagram oh that's right well if we know nothing we know that from Devon we can post at least a six minute video if he's posting 13 minute videos weird so is it posted as a a real though no you post as a video on Instagram not real video you can do that yep what it's okay Grandpa did not know that okay well fire Festival 2 is happening so Billy McFarland announced it absolutely not fire Festival 2 is happening April 25th 2025 I'm sorry anything this man says why are we why is anyone listening it's crazier he he goes in he says we have a private island off the coast of Mexico in the Caribbean we have an incredible production company who's handling everything from Soup To Nuts no one wants to work with you he say he's saying a whole lot of nothing and we've heard this before well just wait so he says we haven't booked any of the talent for Fire 2 it's not just going to be music for example karate combat we talks with them to set up a pit to have live fights then he says VIP tickets for $11 million will go in sale where you'll get to be on a private boat scuba diving with him bouncing to other Islands countries and small planes over 100 people have already applied for VIP tickets some scientist needs to study this man's brain that and the people that submitted to for a $1.1 million ticket to sit on a boat with him that's that's wild you deserve to have your money like like just blown away at that point that's true if you trust Billy McFarland again you just you deserve to be in the year of Our Lord 2024 maybe that's what rich people do to like you know like Fight Club where they want to just get punched in the face to just know how it felt like maybe as rich people are like take my money just like waste my money in the fight pit they're dying to be hood and Bamboozled yeah it's crazy no he went to jail for this maybe it gives him a thrill maybe there's an excitement behind it would be iconic to like be at fire Festival 2o like I think so like even if it was a scam like I would put myself through it just to be like I was there well you're assuming you'd make it out alive that's true that is true I think it's cooler for the people who went the first time because like why not try to be a part of something that's unique but not if you're going the second time genuinely like hoping for a concert you're a [ __ ] idiot I guess if we sent the team like you know Justin if you want to go as a member of the household to bring a camera 1.1 million um that you being willing to do that is different than you like going as a this is going to be the best con Festival of all time you go knowing it's going to be a letdown but you're like they improved something so I at least have like AC and like a snack you know I'm G to take myself out the running of you where also has AC and snacks your house so true if nothing else the confidence this man thinking he deserves a second chance to get to get people to want to waste their money I I guess if nothing else this is this is proof that we'll we'll see what happens let's let's closely follow uh if he's able to to pull this off because this will be a real true Testament to uh people's willingness to want to waste money were there no um consequences for the first go round that he's able to do this again because he went to jail for it but I'm like how is he able to put together the exact same situation just new investors different I feel like you know whether it's like registering as a sex offender or losing the right to vote if you're a criminal I don't think you lose the right to like conduct business and that's essentially all he's doing he's there's no like at there's no like specific I don't think legislation around like once you try to start a festival and you [ __ ] up you can't no longer start a festival it's just like scamming people well sure but like yeah that's what I'm saying I don't think you can unlike there are certain crimes that when you get out like again you have to register as a sex offender or you know you you do lose the right to vote if were convicted of a felony there are certain rights that you might not get and there's certain jobs that like you know I don't know like there's certain jobs it might matter most but like overall there's not a legislation making it illegal for you know people get out of prison to not work because all he's doing is he's conducting business he's making phone calls he's he's trying to broker deals right booking Talent all all this all these transactions everything he's talking about are are just business transactions yeah yeah but that does seem bizarre considering he was arrested for what fraud I mean like color crimes yeah the fact that he's able get out and do it again is yeah you can't if a con artist goes to prison for committing a you know con and gets out how do you yes they might stop them they might try to commit another con anel like she went to jail but she came out and now she's like a star I guess it's just crazy you can't say you you you're not the the the only thing to stop you well you're not allowed to conduct business you know I guess it's just crazy to think that he's just out there like advertising marketing this whole thing and it's like yeah this is on Entertainment Tonight it's crazy for the investors like who's investing their money in this to Show part two you know True Crime what just because I know J is going to bring up to to here's a transition like this is in line with the study you told me about Justin MH about how it's not good for your mental health or it says something about you it's a red flag if you like enjoy sitting down watching True Crime some people what do I say this [ __ ] show like the brain prefers pain to boredom like some people get off on pain some people get off on discomfort some people get off on this [ __ ] and so the people who will are willing to like go to fire Festival too May and honestly maybe no one cuz like right now he's just talking about what he's going to do he hasn't done [ __ ] but if he does in fact pull this off then it will be a testament to people's like willingness to like put themselves in a shitty situation why do why do every time there's like these crazy criminals who's the guy you've been following and he has all these women he's he's a terrible person committ these terrible crimes Wayne Wilson and he's got just seems like tons of women like fawning over him some people are just into some [ __ ] up [ __ ] anyway facts the Wade Wilson [ __ ] is crazy yeah I mean well you hint You hinted at it so basically a psychologist warned that it's a major red flag to relax while enjoying True Crime so a psychologist Dr Therma Bryant explained that treating True Crime shows as a way to relax before bed could mean that the trauma trade in the series is in quotes familiar to you and could even be a sign that you need counseling she specifically said if your idea of relaxing before you go to sleep is watch three episodes of True Crime that I would encourage you to think about why is trauma relaxing to me yeah that's that's on point do we want to everyone just like take a moment and reflect on that I think we need to True CME for me I I don't watch it cuz I feel guilty like speculating on like people's deaths and like murders and then like romanticizing it yeah but going back to fire Fest like that's kind of what I'm saying it's just like I think that's very eloquently put someone obviously much smarter than us but whether it's watching true crime or putting yourself in these situations I think yeah you know why are we repeat offenders of putting ourselves in situations that get us in trouble it's just because like we you know I wasn't trying to make this in an as Nick episode but also there is a great as Nick episode out on Monday it was out on Monday or coming out it comes out every Monday amazing oh have we done house we didn't even do housekeeping yet we have all the ladies house cleaning I think last week we had Taylor Paul electric episode new star of The Secret Lives of Mormon wives we have the rest of the ladies this week they are on going deeper this week it came out yesterday if you haven't checked it out it is also electric but uh yeah it's even more electric unhinged it's unhinged it really is it was a it was a great it was so much fun everyone but Whitney very Whitney of her so I would Whitney if you're out there no we would I just don't think she's interested in us I got clowned for defending Whitney so where did you defend Whitney in the episode last reality recap are you reading the comments just no I try not to but I did see one comment that was like Justin being Devil's AF every episode is like annoying and I was like oh to that person Justin you are beloved you are don't listen to them Justin I'm going to still defend her but I don't know period listen we welcome the criticism yeah yeah and we welcome The Devil's Advocate although I don't believe that he needs one but we do welcome your side because you create some discourse and I do love disagreeing with you sometimes thank you yeah you're a gentle disagreer you are gent and you don't even do it in a condescending way because I think that's a lot of people do like they can't go gentle because it's in this condescending but you're just like I don't know you're just more playful about it you're like it just I don't know I just like love her and you're like oh my God okay well then I love her too if you if you love her I love her you know why you know that audio of Kim Kardashian like the Kardashians old episodes where it's like Kim people are dying MH like that's a consum in my head where I'm like it's not that serious for half of these things truly what's your Mercury do you know no clue oh are we Astrology talking astrology a little bit yeah I was just wondering what what his Mercury was that's the way you communicate it's retrograde it's in retrograde is is what are there different types of mercury yeah everyone like for every everyone has a different Mercury the [ __ ] does that mean everyone has a different nose so true I mean it makes you who you are facts so Mercury is like according to astrologers it's the planet of like communication so whatever like sign your Mercury is in like that's like how you communicate so like I'm a Pisces Mercury okay so I've never heard of this well how do you learn what your Mercury is your birth chart look at your birth chart Mama yeah birth chart is that something the hospital gives you cuz that we didn't get one forever if I told you September 28th oh I don't know you got to put that into Cafe Astrology yeah what time you were born where you were born wait Natalie speaking of like the is not giving a chart I've been asking for my blood type for like how old am I 23 years now and they will not give it to me have you gotten your your blood drawn I have and then I ask I'm like every doctor I'm like do you have it and they're like ask this doctor ask this doctor and I'm like well like can I have it and they're like oh we don't give that out and I'm like but it's my blood I don't know my blood type maybe do you know your blood type SI I'm an o oh she's special I'm a universal donor but I can only take from o you should know this right you should know this yeah know well Cho own we all love and know Chappell Roan her so she came out and she said that she's not going to take any brand deals that don't serve her music or help her World building and she specifically mentioned like H&M and like other brands so she's turning them down if it's not her music for me I have a lot of respect for Chapel in her saying this cuz it's like she's blown up she's now on the cover of Rolling Stones and it's like if it's not her actual music she doesn't want it I like the way that she's going about her career that's not I don't know run by other people exactly she's like I'm just going to do what makes sense for me and [ __ ] everybody else and I'm kind of here for it yeah I think it's amazing that we're in like a position in culture where somebody like japone can't exist and like keep like her autonomy yeah and just like being extremely genuine and I think it's like yeah she is very very on point about everything she stands for which I think is amazing her Talent speaks for itself still making some money isn't oh my God yeah oh yeah she's she's got the dough she she's just she's on the cover of like magazines that are promoting her as a music image but versus like she's not on the cover of like Brands don't be expecting any teeth whitening q& A's from Chapel could y'all imagine people would crazy I would buy well you would know it'd be authentic to her you know you do know it would be authentic that's true yeah cuz she would not she would not do anything that wasn't you know who is reaching out who Foo Fighters I I don't know who this is but Dave Gro a singer from the Foo Fighters you know who is reaching out not to me because I don't know who he is but uh reaching out to his other family yeah okay Foo Fighters well so I don't know if he's a lead singer but whoever he is in the Foo Fighters Dave croll he said I've recently become the father of a new baby daughter born outside of my marriage I plan to be loving and supportive parent to her I love my family and my children and I'm doing everything I can to regain their trust and earn their forgiveness we're grateful for your consideration toward all of the children involved as we move forward together so out of nowhere he announced that he's having a child out of web block why did he feel the need to do that yeah why do he have to announce it we don't know like were people like coming after him or was he just like you know what I just can't hold this in any longer I would have never known and I I would consider myself a Dave gr fan I mean Nirvana who is he in Foo Fighters he's the lead singer of Foo Fighters he was the drummer in Nirvana my God while we're really cool YouTube video I don't know that much knowledge about rock and roll but there was a really talented drummer who passed away and his son like his 10 12 I don't know teenage son after he passed away drummed at the food Fighters concert and it was awesome and it was like a d it's like if you want to feel good watch that video but yeah I I mean I'm a fan but like had he not posted on Instagram I would never have known do we care I mean it's because he's known as the nicest man in rock and roll so it's just I never thought the nicest man in rock and roll uh was cibit incapable of being you know having a low character moment or two oh exactly but I think it's just it's just goofy it's just goofy when you like brand yourself as that kind of and then you're like okay well let me get ahead of this well did he brand himself of it or did the world brand him of it like was he like hey everyone I am I've met a lot of my peers and I'm here to say I am the nicest one yeah did did he like an episode on Sesame Street or Mr Rogers or something I don't know I don't know I just like I think that's just like how people kind of saw him because he was just like a good guy in the public which no one knows anyone personally was he posting videos of him going to Children's Hospitals like Russell Wilson not to bring it back to football like Russell Wilson sometimes gets criticized as being disingenuous in his first few years in the league incredible reputation the good guy but then I think I think it kind of got out that some people he was always posting and promoting for himself you know going to Children's Hospitals and he's doing great things I mean he does do these things but the self-promotion I think over time started rubbing you know first his teammates and then in the public the the wrong way so I'm just curious yeah was he doing [ __ ] like that or to n's question did we just all think he was a clean cut guy with really long hair who sing good yeah I think it was just like I don't think he ever like super branded himself that way from what I know I think with the Nirvana of it all like he's the one that like still kind of had Fame and everybody obviously like Nirvana takes up such a very very special place in people's hearts for people that grew up with that music and then with food Fighters and stuff and is genuinely like a pretty chill you know easygoing guy so everyone's like oh he's the nicest man in rock and roll and that's kind of how it happened what happened to Bonnie Tyler she's my favorite person of rock and roll she got eclipsed you want to hear a fun Nirvana fact yes eclipsed Bonnie Tyler what does that mean she pass no the song Total Eclipse of the Heart Sing It Justin sing ital Turn Around ni's got it [Music] from oh I love that songer oh my God oh my God actually I'm done here guys love you so much wait fun fact of Nirvana yeah uh my uncle was in a band called fir town that was once had once had a music video on MTV when MTV was like in the early 80s let's go my uncle you know grew up and like firetown just never really really made it but like you know they had a moment and then like many bands before them just stopped he started a family and a member of his band his name I think Butch McCrae definitely his first name is Butch he produced Nirvana never mind oh wow Le and and then and then was also in the band garage nice okay okay little little 99s grunch moment on the vile files basically you are Nirvana I didn't know you were in a band Nick Kirk o reincarnated I am uh n never mind uh well I he sounds like he's going to be a dad uh I hope whether him and his wife want to make their relationship work that they're able to do that if and if not I'm I'm sorry to his wife who has to deal with this uh betrayal and kid one skin is the world first longevity company making topical skincare supplements that are designed to reverse the biological aging of your skin that sounds like a sci-fi movie 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the knowledge who's playing this weekend okay so the two gam also can we look up just Zach what the point spreads for these respective games that marott selected I see I don't even know what point spreads mean we're not we're not on the statistic side C yeah we're on the Vibes I did not pass my statistics Exam in high school so I'm here to Vibe anyway what are team colors okay five Football week two game one we're going the Baltimore Ravens versus the Las Vegas Raiders oh I know the Raiders okay I love Laur so tomb Raiders I was L for Halloween like a couple years ago okay hot SL okay hot yeah let's what else do we have Vibes Raiders what are their Vibes the Raiders vibes okay so you may know them used to be in Oakland not anymore now they're in Las Vegas their colors silver and black kind of boring that's cute though that's but a little spooky a little Spooky's coming yeah I have a hard time withe it's just like I don't know you want I do like that you can like always wear black to their game and like easy like it's easy to be a fan cuz like what do you wear like for the Packers [ __ ] now I have to buy a bunch of green [ __ ] and is it the right shade of green like probably not so I'm respecting the colors of the Raiders okay okay fair enough she makes a good point fair enough that is a very practical Point their mascot is a raider well their mascot is the Raiders rusher which is just I have a picture of him it's just a guy with the little spiky helmet oh he's scared um he's kind of giving do you know that um that old video um of some reality shows like wife's I don't know but it was this kid and he had like a mohawk and he was like asking the woman he was like do you like hardcore punk rock and she was like no no their mascot literally is a tiny child yeah okay I don't like that head on a body that's weird yeah sometimes he does appear as just a head on a body a picture of their fans they their fans dress up like like badass their fans look cool as [ __ ] that's terrifying joking wait I have a dumb question yeah isn't 49ers also San Francisco and then were they were Oakland no they were yeah they were there's there's a couple like hockey has the that's confusing basb has two teams an that are repeated they lived in Oakland they developed a gambling addiction they moved to vas wait so who's their star player there I mean star player they Devon Adams former Packer yeah okay that guy really talented right very good good he he always does this when whenever he gets a first down he goes no that's Aaron Jones I mean not sore wound but I've heard the Packers loss her last game so I'm not sure that's helping us out on the Raiders oh my God why does that have to do with that was unnecessary that way out of left Field's the coration just correlation Devonte Devonte yeah no we acknowledge that Devonte used to play for the Packers I don't the recent okay well I just the facts that I'm hearing I don't I don't think I've ever I this might be the first time I've been mad at Justin I'm just repeating what I've heard wait so he was good on the Packers then right he was really good on the Packers really good on the justus's in his villain so he is a really so he's a really good player so like that could be but also I'm I'm I'm already startled by some of the fan photos that I saw so I don't know if I could go to a game I spooky I think they're very friendly actually no like they're they look scary yeah anyways they're dedicated what about the ravens Okay so the Ravens I got him mad sorry it's okay yeah you did you really ruined our whole lake trip Justin sorry um the Ravens color scheme we're going purple like a dark purple we're going black we're going metallic gold oh okay purple and gold purple purple is not no I don't love purple okay these are royal colors what does she do to you listen she just feels she just doesn't she doesn't feel flattering for me this and this is a me problem for sure yes you know so someone called her a grape once someone called me a grape once and I'll never forget it they called me a big fat grape so um I'll never forget it so what are what else what is their maskot okay so basically the Ravens take their name from the Edgar Allen Poe poem The Ren which not but I did do an English project on that in the sixth grade hell yeah I did too hell yeah did you know that before he died in a gutter he used to spend a lot of time in Baltimore yeah um wait so this mascot kind of looks like the Dolphins just a different font I think he's cute his name is po oh he's cute yeah one time po had he was playing a game with some kids and he got injured and had to be very dramatically carded off the field a Dr we love the drama he got like carded off like one of the players okay I didn't know you could card mascots do they have any fight songs or anything fun or like they do have a marching band so they are one of like two teams in the league that where are they playing this game they're playing it in Baltimore in Baltimore yeah okay a lot of purple yeah lots of purple um John Harbor is their coach his brother Jim also a coach so sibling rivalries played against each other coached against each other in the Super Bowl yeah pop off which who won the Ravens or the Ravens won okay that's something to note yep the lights went off at halftime for like 45 minutes and some people think it's a betting conspiracy well speaking of conspiracies there's some drama around the beginning of their relationship or beginning of their relationship beginning of their Inception much like Tom and Ariana I would say got off to a little bit of a conspicuous inconspicuous start because the Baltimore Ravens used to be the Cleveland grounds and then one night they just like switched left they just left went to Baltimore like they literally just like did a goth Rebrand in a new city which I kind of the owner the you know it it was his business and he took it which can happen to the Green Bay Packers like imagine you live in Cleveland you know what I have I already know who's winning yeah who's the first one Raiders Raiders winning cuz we love pckers oh he's trying to he's trying to get back on your good side he's trying to so hard quick Raiders won quick tell him you forgive him quick I forgive you Justin okay okay now but I do think we go I do think we I do think we go Raiders is this a group decision between you guys or you guys everyone want to do their own thing no we The Vibes we all have to agree I personally hate the Ravens because I grew up a Steelers fan so I like in my blood have to hate them I hate them too yeah well I think you guys can all do your own thing and we keep score yeah who's got the best Vibe we represent the household though I felt like because I because I felt like that was what was fun like people were like M team one like you know who decide I feel like this is going to be a whole like uh love Island situation where you guys are going to be blaming each other next week who like really influenced the vote the most Sarah did just take the back seat on the Raiders one I did I will say one last thing about the about the Ravens though because they are Baltimore if anybody is a fan of the movie Hairspray yeah Good Morning Baltimore Good Morning Baltimore the turnblad family would be ra and Edgar Allen Poe and Edgar Allen Poe I don't know I think they're kind of and like this purely Vibe wise I would maybe go Ravens just because I love a little like spooky goth moment yeah um but then at the same time like because of growing up being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers we hate them so it's very hard have the Raiders ever won a Super Bowl that's a good question but Mary you can be a you can be a super fan and still make a pick I think Vibe wise Ravens for me kind of with the Ravens too and Raiders fans scare me you're just gonna make n wear purple GNA make make me called a you can wear gold you can wear gold not really much better I have the gold for Packers and it doesn't really work for me purple and gold is good the Raiders head coaches 20 minutes $27 million in debt the Raiders yeah Antonio Pi it's something around that it's a big number the Raiders head coaches yeah and Antonio Pierce he is the this is this is true nepotism yeah he also owns the Las Vegas Aces the WNBA team jeez in their grade the Raiders money on him but look at him oh that's a haircut it is a haircut that is a choice he is the most vaguest looking man I've ever seen in my entire life okay I feel like I feel like we are all on the same page you're going to go we're going to go Ravens I am also going to go Ravens again this is accumulation over the course of the year we'll see like every week this is how you make picks babe you can't like cuz sometimes we actually both might agree you Natalie's gatekeeping the Ravens we're we're now tied we're one in one you you won I won a game last week okay we will pick the same game so yeah less fun but sometimes that's how it works wait what's the second game we have another one game two game two Chicago Bears versus the Houston Texans the Bears exactly let's start off with the Bears color scheme navy blue orange and white love because Auburn is navy blue and orange love those colors they're very they're very Auburn very Auburn I think orange just triggers me cuz like dolphins orange is just ugly it just doesn't look good but this orange is like a burnt orange isn't it made wear purple so yeah sacrifices um their mascot Staley duar yep and he is a SLE look at him look at that guy is a Chicago man not a bear in a suit he's a bear in a suit love sources to me that he is actually the secret cook in the kitchen in the hit TV show The Bear and um don't look that up but uh that's how they got filmed in Chicago right it takes place inic filed in Chicago and behind the scenes Staley duar Justin Fields is their quarterback right no he's now the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers Williams is now the quarterback of the Bears and he did not play very well in his first game but he is only a rookie I did find out he is younger than me oh yeah he's 22 good friend isn't that crazy 22 wow and a quarter wow it's a young man's game football professional sports fun facts they play at Soldier Field which is very beautiful I've seen it The Field's not so great but yeah but to look at it from like the lake it has gotten criticism compared to other beautiful stadiums like Lambo field is looking more like like a spaceship of some sorts futurism Lambo is the Packers fi well Soldier Field before its renovation was dope as [ __ ] it had like these pillars it looked like a a fort like and I honestly think it was based off of some sort of military fort I could be totally [ __ ] wrong there and then they remodeled it they didn't you know and then they turned like an old pillared Fort it's just like it it was weird it's like they yeah they did Future when it was I don't take a picture of it retrofitted yeah it was I don't know it uh it's not without its criticisms but Mary likes it I mean I just went to school in Chicago so I'm biased so I used to you know do walk sounds Pat but if you think it's pretty from the lake then I trust you Mary and I also think it's pretty from the lake thank you yeah it also we don't need to really research yeah we don't need to like go into like the history of like what it once was I feel like what it is now exactly fun facts about them they have a very famous recurring SNL sketch about them with Mike Myers Chris Farley and Norm from cheers so not many du bears bears not many other football teams can say the same just GNA say sorry about it SNL SNL okay when it was good uh the Packers did uh appear on Pitch Perfect 2 I believe it was wow you know what I love a sequel wait we oh my God make it P perfect huh you know what this is me being honest that wins my heart love the cuz pitch perur go was obsessed with oh here J goes that one's true though that one's true what about your friend that went to you know spent a lot of nice time in Chicago who are we who's the Bears weing the Bears are playing the Texans but the Bears are very cute is the Texans no Matthew mcc's team or is that Longhorns same LGH horns Houston Tex their colors are deep steel blue okay Battle Red nope Liberty white I like this and H toown blue love the way they describe their colors love love it's creative I love the adjectives they really did they went the extra mile so their mascot is this guy named Toro he's a bull because obviously they have the Rodeo Houston and this is not the Dallas Cowboys no this is not the Dallas Cowboys this is the Houston this is the Houston Texans well these be the Oilers another like like Baltimore the Houston Oilers moved to Tennessee I thought you said that's not how you pronounced that word o Oilers Oilers Oilers maybe I'm turning into you you are we're morphing oh my gosh he's cool mhm I like this kind of a bad [ __ ] yeah he's yeah he's giving Toro oh but I keep thinking about our bear in the suit and he just so handsome I mean I feel like they would be friends if they met he would win in a fight he would win in a fight though he's got the horn I think Staley duar is is more of like a let's all just be friends but Toro Toro could um you know kill someone so who won so the Bears won their first game did the Texans also win their first game it's a really good question they did they did they did they did okay that's good to know you know like what I've heard though is the first week doesn't do anything right the first Le that is true Justin the first week is that are you saying that because the Packers lost a misrepresentation of of the team he's letting you know that the first week when Packers loss it doesn't it doesn't matter but I mean that's true right so we can't depend on the first week yeah no it's been one week would you would you judge someone off of like let's say on aak yeah you're on a break you come back you're getting into the groove of things it's true a fun fact about the Texans famous fan alert Rainey Rodriguez from the hit TV show Austin and Alley is a Houston Texans okay so I'm voting for the Texans ba I feel like I I'm hating that we on a road we're we're on a path here a fork in the row Justin because I'm feeling the bearies I am too and and Mary went to college there yeah I know but like Pro's cute Nick is trying to cheat Nick's trying to cheat he's trying to he's trying to send me down the he's like you should go Texans you and you're trying you're praying on my downfall you want me to lose huh you know the Bears are going to win do you know the Bears are going to win no wait the Bears are winning I'm no Nick I'm picking his you're picking Houston well pop off pick Houston how are you feeling Justin about switching your team or no are you really stuck on it I think Texans I'm sorry red white and blue that's like my daily color SCH very patriotic you are such an American I'm an American okay also he would win in a fight if the mascots were fighting on the field he has horns yeah so you think aggression is the most important thing in the world not a gentleman in a suit yeah you don't think like his little sues that's all an act he's putting on the suit to look like he knows what he's doing since we don't have Peter this episode I guess Justin and Nick could team up and then it could just be like the girls against the boys no I could do that he said I don't want Justin he said no no no he just doesn't land with Justin Justin's part of the vibe just like it doesn't no football are we wearing purple we wore purple last round we wearing purple I can this can be a an episode of humiliation for me orange what was the Bear's colors again it's like navy blue like a kind of burnt orange orang and white I'm here for the Bears their logo is really cool too I will say it's like this orange and blue I'll wear I'll wear a misprinted like orange that looks kind of red and then call it a day so yeah also like low key if you're in Chicago like you can just wear like a cub shirt and go to a bear cubs are cute I've seen that all Chicago team's very cute cuz you have the Bears and then you have the Cubs I do love Chicago Pizza okay I my be hot dog Chicago pizza is good I'm going to go Houston I'm going to go Houston Texans also taking uh you're not going to explain why they were in the playoffs last year they have a really great quarterback there's some people's uh Niche Super Bowl pick and so the Bears again they won last week but they didn't actually play that well so I'm going to go is it CJ stroj stron also DJ Tron 22 oh yeahh got some bab 22 against 22 Yeah 22 very Taylor Swift CED very Taylor Swift CED wow any we are taking my dad to the Packer game this Sunday at Lambo field if you guys anyone anyone anyone in the household uh who goes to the Packer game and you run into US say hi yeah and tell Nick's dad happy birthday happy birthday 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you uh life's been a bit of a whirlwind for you yeah it's been a lot there's been a lot going on for sure you know usually I ask my guest like how's their heart and it's just like you know whatever kind of a throwaway but I feel like it's really appropriate In This Moment Like can you let the audience know and so we're recording this uh Wednesday and I'm sure we'll get to the dev of it all uh but you youve been traveling you're on Dancing With the Stars the finale was last week you've been in Boston uhuh rallying the R ring the troops ring the troops at the bars it's been you've been through a lot you've been through a lot so like how is Jen your heart I truthfully don't know how my heart is yet I don't I haven't had a second to myself to really like process everything it's only been a week since the finale um there's been a lot going on I've been kind of just focusing on myself focusing on Dancing the Stars focusing on having fun and putting energy back into myself but truthfully like there is a lot going on in the back of my mind and I'm still trying to process it at all and I'm still trying to just heal from it um and I feel like every second I'm I'm getting there I'm getting a little bit better there's something else that comes out and I'm like I'm just like it that breaks it all over again but I mean healing is not a linear journey and there's just going to be like a couple up ups and downs but I've I've been through heartbreak before maybe not in the public eye but I know that like I will be okay at the end of the day but yeah I mean I'm not going to lie and to hear that and say that I'm like 110% okay I'm not and I think it's okay to also admit that absolutely yeah for sure like we love a mid healing Queen we do absolutely M feeling Queen yeah so it's it's been a lot yeah it seems like you're able despite you know and good for you uh able to enjoy this moment because I mean you also despite the Heartbreak have some really exciting things going on I mean uh we know we never like to see you know anyone heartbroken but you know in bachor world it seems like Bach nation has really rallied behind you and really supporting you and and really you know very team gen right now so that must feel not that they weren't before but just that that there's a clear energy out there right now of support for you uh and that must feel good and exciting and and uh you know I imagine you're seeing that out in public I see it everywhere online in public and it has been really really amazing to have such support from people that I don't even know it's definitely not a feeling that I've known before so it's been really really nice and yeah I I don't know I think with things like that though like I'm always so weary of the internet and everything it's just like they can be so behind you and the next moment they're not and things like that so I try to just stay grounded as possible and like I'm grateful for the support now and I'm just like happy happy to be here happy to have it happy to be living I don't know happy to be living hell yeah do you want to should we just get Devin into the dev of it all then I mean as everybody's questions these days all right so like elf in the room yesterday Devin posted uh well I don't understand why I didn't know you could post more than 10minute videos on Instagram so I think he maybe did us all a favor of learning the long form uh but all jokes aside for whatever reason this seemed to be the way he decided to share his truth as he says uh have you seen the video I have not seen the video and I don't plan on it uh okay he love that yeah I mean it's just I I know what happens I don't need to watch a 13-minute video on it and he's wasted already 6 months of my life I'm not going to give him another second let alone 13 minutes I'm yes that being said uh he obviously feels a certain way I mean I guess when was the last time you talked to Devin and is there a chance that maybe you guys could mend the fenes cuz for whatever reason he seems upset or he feels like his POV you know isn't understood do you in any way feel like there's things out there that he would like to be out there or you know why do you feel like he's chosen to go about it this way you know given that he was a guy that you you know were engaged to for a while I have no idea why somebody would do this let alone somebody that I was engaged to would release private text between us two when you get engaged to somebody when you're dating somebody your first thought is never oh my gosh these texts might actually be blasted for the whole world to that is an invasion of privacy so when I heard about this I had so many friends and family texting me calling me about this I truthfully felt so betrayed so just disrespected and honestly just upset and disappointed like I don't have a problem with him going out there and saying what he needs to say but I have a problem with him invading my privacy and releasing text without telling me without just giving me notice and also just like some of the things he conveniently blurred out certain things but forgot to blur out other things that were very very private it's like my mom's on the internet dude like what's up with that it's just it was disrespectful and I don't appreciate it at all in regards to what he has to say like he's allowed to have a side to the story like he was a part of this relationship too he he has all the rights to say whatever he wants to say and I'll say it like he had time at AFR to say it and I don't know about you guys but I didn't hear very much of anything thing so he had time to share his peace if he thinks that he wants to share more he's more than welcome to do that what I don't condone is invading my privacy and going out there and doing that so that seems fair that does seem very fair yeah so you're really just more you know obviously the way he's gone about it the messages it just seems like you've had so much time now to think of your story and your plan but it's like at AFR you were quite quiet yeah exactly do you know why Devon or can you guess there was that hot mic moment where Devon was like what's going on here he seemed confused I will say hav't been a part of AFR it is live it's very short it's very pressure-packed if he you know things don't go always the way people imagine so that can happen like but from your standpoint why do you think he said that I honestly have no idea why he said that I have no idea why he thought it would I don't know where he thought it was going to go I have no idea his mindset that week because he truthfully we hadn't been talking that week and the week before that I got some very mean messages from him and we just like were not on good terms because I had asked to talk to him without the cameras and he had agreed and then suddenly ghosted me and suddenly was not on the same page as me and I wanted to have that conversation off camera so he knew how anxious I was going to be going there like that's not okay to for the first time be seeing your ex fiance on a stage and he denied me of that right to have a conversation with him before that and so I don't know what he thought was going to happen like I was I was on a roller coaster of emotions of course like I was I didn't know what to expect yeah I don't know why he said what was going on here what did he think was going to happen was I just going to shake his hand and say okay have a good day like nice KN being that makes that makes a lot of sense coming from you adding that context because like you know regardless of whatever Devon's timeline is like even if he thought you two had some sort of understanding right like you said you hadn't spoke with at least a week or two information's coming in you have no idea what's going on you didn't expect him to break up with you as everyone in your shoes would you start asking a million questions what how did this happen how could this happen is there someone else yada yada you start getting messages or reports of another people arms around people whether Devon did it before or after he broke up what did he expect it's just like clearly if nothing else he was incredibly sloppy and in incredibly considerate of how information could get back to you and how you might feel about it yeah I I mean I don't know what else he expected but that you know you thanks for providing that context cuz it makes a lot of sense cuz I wouldn't want anyone to think that like he's somehow suggesting that you guys were on some same page and even if you had talked a couple weeks before like so what like clearly when someone breaks up with you your your information comes in you don't know what to think left or right and like he decided to operate in a way that was that raised a ton of questions regardless of what the timeline exactly is or not here's the thing like the information about this other girl in New York what the pictures whatever that didn't even come out until after AFR so it's like I wanted to put it in the past at AFR I'm like this is it I just want to be done and then it's like every day something is popping up the pictures with the girl people dming me he's making out with this person on this date and he's flying to the airport with this girl on this date blah blah blah blah blah now releasing text me like I just at this point I want to be done and I want to put this in the past and I'm TR like this is the last time I'm talking about this because this is not what I want this I don't need this breakup to be drawn out for 6 months I'm done with it and I'm ready to move on and at this point in my life like the way that he has been behaving and and releasing our text and whatever else that he's doing shows to me that this is not the kind of person that I would ever want to spend the rest of my life with anyways and so I'm ready to move forward with that and know that I'm at the right place in my life right now and everything truly happened for a reason like it was a blessing in disguise what had happened and I'm grateful for it despite all of this mess well PSA then to anyone listening do not DM Jen or message Jen or go on her page or give her the 411 and anything D related she's not interested she's moving on with Jonathan what what yes what's going on there no Dating she stayed in there just friends hear he was here the other day he was are you in love no yeah am I in Love no I'm kiding I love Jonathan am I in love with Jonathan no well he said he would be sitting front row Dancing with the Stars if you do invite him inv we've we've had some chats about it he will be coming yes as a very good friend of mine um no I mean Jonathan is is so great and so amazing and such a good person and like here's the thing I didn't get a fiance out of this but I'm so happy that I got a really good friend out of this and a good human being like he is just so good and unfortunately right now I'm just not at the place in my heart and in my life to be dating somebody to even be thinking about possibly investing myself into anybody let alone Jonathan but I'm happy to have him as a friend for now and like we'll see where that goes I mean yeah I don't know for now I just enjoy his company and I think we're on same page for that yeah no I respect it I I always hated as like a former lead people telling me who they think we should date that being said like Jonathan took our breath away he was he was hot like Sierra I seven-year relationship but I was like oh my God this guy amazing yeah so charismatic I said I need to calm down you know what relax a not your type that's fine you know I mean yeah she's got two months here we don't know what could happen I mean said he's not my type like he's he he's a great looking guy I mean if he was made out a couple times yeah plenty of people have gone back no I'm not yeah done that gosh no he's great we'll see I we'll see youve got time have the DMS been open have you been asked on any dates like have you at least you have been okay anything of Interest anything you're pondering no I can't I truthfully can't like I think of the hottest man alive like if Jason Tatum my celebrity crash came up to me and asked me to go on a date like I don't think I can say yes yet because it would be messy but if you wanted to go on a friend date like I would how messy would it be I mean you're just getting a cup of coffee like you don't have to I just feel like I'm at a place where I think I'm going to have a little bit of trust issues for a while just to be like transparent here like the text being Release Me Not really knowing who this person was like it's like I need some time to kind of get over that and then like trust people again because that's yeah that was a serious invasion of my privacy that's that's hard to get over so I also think you're on a whirlwind right now with everything going on that I'm like you should be focusing on yourself and healing and and feeling good about that and that have somebody meet you where you're at versus trying to force having feelings for someone ex exactly exactly but that's also say Jason Tatum can't slide into my are open for Jason DMS are open for Jason confused I'm confused you're confused I'm confused uh how's Dancing with the DWTS Stars going oh my gosh it's going so well it's going really well I see I don't want to brag but I think I pick up things really really well like I pick up things easily and I think I'm I'm good at that but we've got some work to do we've only had three rehearsals and we're a little bit behind but Sasha's been great and I mean everything's been so great the only thing with dancing is like it's so intimate and it's all about that chemistry and for me I'm just like not an outwardly like sexy person like I don't know like so we were working on like string yeah I'm struggling we working on like my my hips and like moving my butt and I'm like I just I can't do this without tequila shots in a very very dark room look you're like I needed I need a DJ in the corner I need it to be pitch black with a few like strobe lights yes maybe this is a like yeah maybe this is a get out of the your comfort zone moment for you it totally is it totally is and I hope that it it works well and I don't look like a 5-year-old boy just like I don't know for the first time I ever I believe that we have a a bachelor and a bachelorette you were on Joey season are you aware of Joey's dance moves and if they're any good I don't know I haven't snuck into one of his practices yet but I'm gonna have are you in any way nervous is there a competition there bachelorettes have an amazing track record bachelor's they're kind of mid they kind of go halfway you know uh never really go that far how you feeling about that are good clean fun are we competitive with Joey or I'm competitive but good clean fun competitive for sure like I mean there's pressure you're not going to like T Harding it or anything like that oh no am I gonna watch Harding the the ice skate a that hit the other contestant with the hockey was it a hockey I was actually on Dancing With the Stars with Nancy carrian absolutely delightful woman just a gem of of a person really enjoyed my she got in trouble oh no I won't be doing that God no no no no I'm so competitive by nature and I mean it's already a lot of pressure being a bachel on like I know they do well on Dancing with Stars but then there's also my ex Joey on the show so I'm like I have to do better than him but it's all in good fun obviously like Joey and I are very great friends now and Kelsey too like we all went to dinner the other night like we're good and they know it's going to be all good fun so do you consider yourself a dancer do I consider myself a dancer said in the clubs I'm like a funny dancer like I'm not like a oh my gosh I'm so sexy look at my boobs I'm like a look at me like fist pumping in the club that could be nice yeah yeah I can break mix mix in a fist bump yeah yeah maybe we can get up the you know amp up the yeah perfect yeah oh my gosh are you able to tell us oh well we're ABS n's never been to Dancing with the Stars I've already God I've already texted Dena you did October [ __ ] I think second I think we're shooting for October second hell yeah if I make it that far we'll see you'll be there you will make it that far three you'll make it that far I'm you're keeping your expectations low yes expectations low it's it's funny because you know when I was on Joey season it's like oh you can go home at any time and then I was on the bat TR and I was like I've got this it's fine and then now it's like I can go home at any time again and that feeling is like it's a scary feeling but yeah do you have any tips dick I I do and I doubt you need this but uh my only tip is is someone who like wanted to do well cuz I just like I thought it was a really cool experience I'm competitive like I really wanted to learn I wish I just cared way more about having fun and being goofy and certainly I wish I I mean I would have always wanted to try my best but I would have not given a [ __ ] about whether I met messed up or not like I'm you're not a professional dancer and I I learned that after cuz after you got got after I got eliminated you and this will happen to you you'll go far enough that you know if you don't win and you could definitely I could see you winning uh but for if you don't win if you go far enough like they'll bring you back kind of do your favorite dance because they only have like two or three like dancers left so they have to fill the air time so I got to do that and by then I didn't care and it was just like I did my absolute best I actually enjoyed it I didn't give a [ __ ] so like if I could do it again I just I wouldn't care about my score I wouldn't care about any of that I wouldn't care about screwing up I would just like have fun so yeah so I hope you that's funny that's been the advice of most people that I've asked actually is to have fun which I'm like oh I don't know if I can do that but like everyone tells you that there's so much pressure to have fun no that's what I'm saying like people say a throwaway but it's more it's not it's less about you know people tell you have fun how do you have fun but you can just not give a [ __ ] you can just be like gives a [ __ ] like you can't don't don't stress your out like whatever it's not a big deal if you look like you're having fun I think who uh he's the radio disc jockey he's like now on American Idol Bobby Bones I think Bobby Bones Bobby Bones he was a self-proclaim terrible dancer like he literally just walked across the dance floor but he won he crushed because like he was out there just living his best [ __ ] life Wow and that's why he won okay I love that he was out there just like standing and throwing an arm up but he was just like I'm Bobby and I couldn't be more grateful like iest and he what I'm going to do okay okay I love that that's giving me so much confidence now one thing I think we know JY can do is have fun so that I can you jumped off a building you could dance oh God yeah I say about that uh Boston what was that I said Channel Boston oh Boston channel that energy for some reason every time I go back to Boston like chaotic J just comes out like I'm like these are my people are we done talking about about Devin regardless or unless we're at or unless we're in Boston uh we're done talking about Devon after today but yeah yeah yeah yeah Boston was a was a movie was an absolute movie what else we have for Jen she's not dating Baseball And Athletes she's not in love completely eliminated off the market unless Jason Tatum Jason Tatum Jason Tatum oh not Shan is he single not Channing Jason Tatum I believe he's single yes okay is that why you in Boston oh my no no I wish I wish she threw the first pitch how did you do I didn't see the video congrat that's pretty cool that's a really cool experience actually I hit it right down the like it was perfectly in her love I definitely would not I'd hit the Dugout I did that once in Little League oh well here's the thing before I went to do the pitch I looked up on Tik Tok wor celebrity pitches and I made myself feel a lot better cuz I'm like I can't do worse than 50 Cent I can't do worse than car JS I can't do worse than the girl sorry I'm calling I know like these are all people who did really bad people just getting [ __ ] blasted by J sorry guys I'm sorry guys it's out there it's out there but she's like I didn't make the video someone else did some girl threw this the ball at a photographer oh no I'm like there's just no way I could do anywhere so I felt I feel good about it it was exciting did you practice at all were you like in your backyard like no I practiced like on the field it's like 5 minutes before I was like yeah give me the ball let me let me see how this I've never thrown a baseball before I've never played baseball but I mean I'm athletic so I was like it'll be fine whatever I feel like we can get Jason Tatum to reach out I feel like he's listening to this episode perfect I did look it up and he's dating LMI so I'm so sorry Ella well and we are absolutely rooting for them but you know if anything no no no you know I'm I'm switching my celebrity cross max streu if you're out there and you're sing I'm here ready Max stru are these all athletes she loves athletes basetball she knows her people I'm like looking up like who is this well I really like basketball so do you really think uh Sam M and Thomas were right about Devon or was it just dumb the Support From Bachelor Nation billion dollar question no they were absolutely right I'll give that to them but like but they're they were also you know not the best in their own way too but but maybe they saw something in themselves they're on like their high horse right now being like haha we told y'all all we were right haha and it's like well you also still suck so sorry I know I mean they're so excited whatever I'm like great I mean Sam M sent me a DM actually the other day so I I said what'd he say what what he say he said hey I saw what happened nobody deserves that and he was like sometimes people you know you think you know them and you don't I mean it was you with another movie line it sounds like a very nice message it was a very nice message I will give him that and you know what I'm happy that he has grown and learned from this and like can put our differences aside and still wish me support and and that makes me feel good that somebody can have that part of their heart and still open and and yeah so no it was good I appreciated it have you heard from any of the other guys on your season post my favorite part is how much they've been supporting me truthfully Jonathan with his big um Instagram post truthfully brought tears to my eyes I just you know you go through such an incredible journey and you want to know that it meant something that you impacted people and for me it was always about those conversations with each of these men is like how are we connecting as people and how can we have an impact on each other even if we don't end up together so to just know that he supports me to know that Spencer supports me Sam and supports like all these people just coming out and and dming me really does does mean a lot because I they've been an important part of my journey and I respect them so much and and want to celebrate them too so it was nice love toar that they supported me yeah yeah and that's why I'm like guys like everybody's like oh the casting I'm like no like they were actually really sweet yeah good well listen you wouldn't be the first lead to just not have your person be casted on your season you know yeah no exactly exactly what are the what are the chances anyways so um yeah it's tough yeah but that's why they keep bringing back Jason mesnik cuz most of us like it you know they don't exactly they aren't casting for love maybe I don't know maybe they are or maybe maybe they're not good at it I don't know I don't know I don't know or maybe just love in general is hard to find maybe that's it that's why we are so lucky a that's a hot take yeah how are you uh what about what about the the ladies from your season how have they been supporting you have you heard from any of the women yeah I mean everybody in Bachelor nation has been supportive but also yeah the women on my season yeah pretty much everybody has been messaging me either on Instagram or texting me calling me so yeah absolutely everyone's been really really supportive and I couldn't be more grateful and I'm happy I'm in La now cuz now I get to hang out with some of them so yeah is there anybody that you're super close to Kelsey and I have been getting drinks recently I'm excited to hang out with Daisy more we've had like a few phone calls just like catching up which makes me really excited um who else star you know she lives in Florida we've always been the best of friends Taylor um just a lot of a lot of them lot of them have been so sweet yeah feel to answer however you want to I'm going to ask the the question Maria obviously posted about everything and I was like and she commented on the fact that you guys that she supports you but you're not friends did something happen there or was this throughout your season or was this post your season like what what what caused the falling out I guess yeah for sure I mean I do want to say that when I mentioned her name on stage I never meant to insinuate that there was anything going on between her and Devon like when I mentioned that it was purely about Devon and nothing else and yeah I mean I still support her from afar regardless of whatever events have transpired since then and and that's between me and her but at the end of the day you know people just grow apart and and that's that but I still support her and she's still supports me and and I'm happy to know that we can do that and if we see each other at an event like I'm going to hug her we're going to be great we're going to pick up right where we left off yeah now you carry yourself so well truly like as a bachelorette and everything I'm just like I feel like post show you're just like handling everything with such Grace thanks course I never realized how resilient I can be until all these punches are being thrown at and I'm like okay it's fine we're going to get through this we're going to cry it out and then we're going to dance it out any Taylor Swift songs hope it's in the works it's in the works I absolutely have to if I if I get sent home before I get to dance with Taylor Swift I will be severely upset that will be worse than my breakup for sure oh no when does episode one when's Outro Night One Drop next week September 17th tune in and we're voting via text social media what's vote on text you can call five I think you can call five times you can text five times you can email five times so there's I think those are the ways that you can vote is what I'm hearing my mom's also been asking so I'm like I don't know hell yeah but we got let people know yeah yeah I'm super stoked the song that I'm dancing to I can't say but I have to say very iconic for the moment that I'm in and I will be surprised if I Don't Cry tears at the end of this dance because it's so it's going to be be so meaningful can you give us a hint like a one-word hint um can I give you a hint is it more empowering than than revenge it's it's so empowering yeah definitely way more empowering no it's not Revenge please cuz I don't have the energy revenge is the ABS I'm going to get from all the planks that like Ari came out kind of her Revenge Revenge dress night one it was more maybe revenge is the wrong word didn't she wear the dress that she wore it was like a a version of it of what she wore on finale should I wear engagement dress a reunion imagine how Epic no that won't be happening all right Jen well thank you for coming back we really appreciate you uh shedding some light and on everything all the crazy going on your life we wish you the absolute best luck this season on Dancing With the Stars and everyone vote for Jed thanks for having me guys yeah a single by the way publicly publicly I love that thank you guys for listening don't for to check out yesterday's episode of going deeper with all the Secret Lives of Mormon wives plus we have Jonathan he was on reality recap on Tuesday very Charming guy um and who knows we just never know what might happen with these two kids yeah maybe they're just in their trauma phase you know the force the I did ask him if he would say yes if you were like hey Jonathan would love to take you to John and Vinnie's on Wednesday and he was like I would say yes yeah so maybe just go get good food with with a Fred we we might we've already been to Sushi together he was a gentleman he opened my car door for me he paid for su he was great he's been great call some Paparazzi no if that door ever opens I would want to make sure that I'm at a right place and he's at a right place but for now really good friends we don't need you guys fighting if someone called a Paparazzi not like some Housewives do you watch Housewives Jen I don't what's your reality TV Obsession what's your guilty pleasure I don't have one I don't watch guilty pleasure I used to watch Love Island a lot and then I got old of it even TV just life in general like what is oh God it could be scripted um I mean I love Grey's Anatomy it's just like right up my alley with like the medical stuff but not a I am a I'm starting to get into reality TV cuz I met Crystal Minkoff and she's been amazing and I need to watch her I need yeah she's great all right Jen we wish you absolutely the best everyone vote for Jen all right we'll see you back on Monday bye bye [Music] [Music] hey hey guys if you love what you listen to make sure you hit 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