Men Tell All w/ Isaac & Allison - Jax and Brittany’s Divorce, RHOC, and Armie Hammer Selling His Car

Intro you're [Music] crazy what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the viles reality recap Edition I'm your host Nick joined by the household and this is episode number 800 yay that's pretty crazy it is 800 episodes 800 episodes I've been here for all of them so okay it is it is your show uh 800 yeah I mean you know we don't make too much of a fuss about these numbers anymore you weren't you were here for 799 that's true oh shout out to the girls got to eat uh who who did uh cover for us not too long ago and do we count in person cuz you're at the lake house a couple times yes we we do count count we do we do we do count that but there was one episode that I was absent from uh embarrassing just kidding that was our wedding weekend I'm glad you were present and not recording the podcast Yeah Ashley and Raina did graciously cover for us so thank you again to the ladies that girls going to eat for the one episode uh that I missed anyways we do appreciate you guys for uh tuning in listening whether you just joined us whether you're a new member of the household or you've been with us since the beginning we appreciate you and and uh we look forward to 800 more yeah I did look up the meaning of the number eight and it represents achievement abundance and is known as a power number oh please there you go wait what about 800 100 times power 100 times power there you go there you go perfect mhm most podcasts don't get uh past episode I believe eight what's the average number of podcasts out there Justin of just that exists no like the average number of podcast episodes per show that's a niche Google search what's the not getting results uh I when I started this podcast I was told most shows don't get to episode 8 no I believe that and look at you now I've seen it this now 800 800 I will be honest I did think this was about me when I saw the balloons I was like oh my God they decorated for my birthday but don't spoil the surprise I do love that it's for 800 and not for my birthday cuz I was like it's a little soon and also like you know we are recording Friday like why don't we do Friday but this EP that Friday's episode that we're recording is coming out after your birthday your birthday would be over oh my God so this is for my birthday also it's for it's for M and Si's birthday happy birthday to both of you we're turning 800 yay I have a birthday coming as well now well not really coming up in a month okay she's like please don't steal my thunder right now yeah like okay but she was like we we've made plans potentially go to a Packer game we've made plans Natalie made the plans because of a friend situation we got invited to go to a football game that's exciting yeah love love love and now no no again no no they didn't invite us I was like let's just okay good friend friend of show Victoria Fuller is dating quarterback will Levis of the Tennessee Titans pretty iconic she's like oh my gosh like you have to come to a game like some point in your life and I was like no yeah for sure and then I was like let me look up their schedule because I wonder where they play the Packers and so I Googled their schedule and I was like oh my God they play the Packers on the 22nd Nick's birthday is September 28th we could like do a trip for his birthday and go to the Packer game and she was like oh my gosh yeah I can like get us tickets from Will and like we can all go to the football game amazing and so I planned that for Nick's birthday when did you plan this oh like yesterday no like a month ago maybe look at you so thoughtful so prepared and by plan she mean means she went babe do you think we should go to this game I'll be in New York earlier that week and so we will Rondevu in the great city of Nashville Tennessee and then last night she goes should this be for your birthday and I said I would love that and I go wait what part of this is my birthday present she goes like me having the idea of going to the game and planning it and I was like well how did you plan it and she goes why just did that's what you do you just like plan something and you're like this is like for like if you were like hey I planned us for to be clear I'm happy for this to be my birthday present as you should it's your favorite thing isn't it literally it's like I would never go to I would never like do this for myself like I know by babe I'm actually going to go to the Packers game watch River and to make no no and to make it make things like even crazier is that I would be flying from LA to Nashville with River by myself o so like and I would do that for your birthday and for your birthday only I wouldn't do that for anything else okay yeah sure you're kind of seeming like you don't love this birthday no no I love I just it seems like no I feel like you are scared because I kind of went uped you and like you're nervous for my birthday this weekend and like like is you benefited from the timing of said game and I feel like we would have gone anyways because your friend is dating the quarterback so you're saying it's a gift from the universe not Natalie kind of yeah mhm well Natalie is arguably your Universe true and I want I I do want to be clear I don't give a [ __ ] about my birthday or what my present is with Natalie's birthday quickly approaching quickly tomorrow not tomorrow I know I'm just trying to set expect how can I benefit from the universe well he's already been like I said something I'm going to get lunch with some of my friends today and I no no no you didn't no and he's like and I was like what time no I was like what time are you done recording so that maybe like you could help with River so I could like go and he was like oh kind of a long day and I was like oh okay well you know I can like take her I guess I don't know but I'm going to go get lunch he was like yeah no I know because I was going to plan a birthday dinner with all of them but they're going to be out of town and I was like oh I reached out to like he wanted his birthday gift to be this like birthday dinner that he was going to BL but I did not that was not the birthday gift that was just me trying to plan some birthday events for you to enjoy and I did reach out to the friends and I was like we should have a dinner they're like we're going to be at a town they're like well how about we go early in the week they're like great and we were going to have dinner and they're like sorry how's lunch I go well I can't make lunch but I'm sure Natalie can and would love that and then I didn't hear from them again and then all of a sudden you're like I'm going to go to get lunch with the gals and yeah I wanted some cred you think you planned the lunch I didn't plan the lunch but like the little bit I got going for me is being pulled out of the pulled from underneath me it does sound like Nick initiated that plan what I'm hearing it may have happened regardless I don't want to take anything away from the friendship I I don't know but I I did initiate I did initiate I'll tell you right now no because I was with them a month ago and they were like your birthday's coming up and I was like it is and they're like we should do something and I was like yeah what should we do they're like let's do dinner or lunch or something just saying I get to go to the Packer game because of Natalie which is amazing amazing is that not like Connor if you were like Connor I got us tickets to go see what is who's his team he's a college football guy no I know but Gator Florida Gator right yeah Florida State if you were like I got us tickets to go to the Florida State game he would be like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah because I would never set foot at a football game so she'd be like wow you really do love me hwood only for you and I said though if it if this is in fact my birthday present because I think we we are planning to go out to dinner with the newly happy couple and I said well make sure to let Mr will Levis know that it's my birthday dinner so if he loses the game I don't give a [ __ ] it's my birthday dinner I get to pout no I'm just kidding the guy who actually played the game like can't be upset because he can't be upset well Nick's like yay my favorite team one no Victoria and I were laughing cuz we're like we're really setting like one of us up for failure because like one of man's is going to be in a bad mood yeah I can be an adult I can I I can recognize this is my Dungeons and Dragons and this is his job so I feel like I could take one for the team not Dungeons and Dragons it is my you know it's my pry accurate it's my getaway I'm just excited for us to just spend the weekend together for my birthday and like I'm really I'm not expecting anything crazy I'm just expecting family time and oh yeah I give be F your time great all I want Natalie what's your version of the Packers my version let's brainstorm thank you J what are your favorite things like what is something that yeah Packers like what is your Dungeons and what is your Dungeons and Dragons oh what is my Packers Nick's Packers what is mine H I don't know what do you think my Packers is probably my daughter so maybe answer surrounding around I don't know I so you want to wake up early and spend more time with her yeah I'd love to on your birthday for sure I'll sleep in and you'll I'll throw them out right now please thank you shut shut your mouth uh we do have an amazing show lined up for you today the very Charming couple of Allison cooch and Isaac Rochelle is with us later to talk about uh some batch the rat Mr Devon does not go home I think we all suspected Devon might go home turns out fan favorite I think deon's got to win I was pissed I think he's going to win we'll get into that later uh they are with us later this episode uh what else we we got some household headlines going on Travis KY bought a horse yay he's a horse girl no it makes sense did he actually buy the Household Headlines horse itself or did he just buy the like I think he has an ownership stake part owner yeah and it's like Swift what's the name of the horse Swift Delivery yeah like hello duh Nob brainer horses make money too do from what I've heard Armie Hammer Army Hammer first of all he's like come out of the Woodworks and did did y'all see that interview he did with Pierce Morgan he did one with pi saw like a clip he with Bill Mah as well oh did he well the one with Pierce Morgan was absolutely crazy cuz Pierce is just like so and did you eat her like did and did you eat her are you a cannibal and he's like that's no I'm not a cannibal I have some crazy Kinks okay it was really bizarre but now he's selling his truck because he cannot afford gas in LA and like wasn't he a very successful actor he was and don't royalties exist yeah he was in like a lot yeah you you also Justin thinks this is like some sort of bit I feel it has to be like a I don't this guy was on top not too long ago and now he is selling his car to CarMax and and and he seems like he's having break that is an interesting thing to be like one of the first things you share with your audience after like all of the allegations that that have come out against you you move to the grand came in and selling insurance comes back to LA does all of these major interview sitd downs and then he's like I have to get I can't afford gas like I think it's a little like garnering public sympathy yeah I think he's going to come forward and promote a hybrid car because he doubles down after going I'm going to just get like a hybrid car it's tiny and only pay like $10 in gas get a brand deal I was about to say I don't know if he can get a brand deal maybe not but I was like this is giving what's the car next and you're the face of I think it's giving a bit out of touch and a bit of hitting rock bottom and and we are seting this is a rock bottom video yeah I don't know it feels a little performative for me it could still be performative in him hitting rock bottom isn't his family rich though cuz I think his family used to have wealth I mean I mean there's been some documentaries about like his dark family history his family either ran out of money or he got cut off I don't I think he's broke I think it's that's true I think he has no money the [ __ ] he did was so [ __ ] I don't know if it was like talked about enough yeah like this I mean I remember Paige Loren like put out this whole YouTube video and like showed where he branded her with like his initial and then he like tried to deny that it's like what you like [ __ ] scary that's what I think I saw from like the Pierce Morgan interviews where it seemed like he was trying to like revise history but it was like screenshots of his text messages and whatnot and it's like you can't now all of a sudden act like none of that stuff came out and like the videos of like the woman tied up on his bed like there was like a lot of really sick things were happening so like you made your bed unfortunately it got exposed so now it's go back to insurance and now like we don't care that you can afford gas I'm like happy you can't afford gas like you you he's psychologically [ __ ] up quite a few people so I say is sad though if he is broke it's really sad because he has children yeah and so that's really sad that like you've done all of this you've made your bed now you're lying in it and you've got what three kids that he has to like take care of thank God his the video like child memories with the car and I did think about like what happens when your kids get older and Google you mhm MH yeah and then the C confusing Dynamic of is is he divorced now or like in the process of separating CU she's on a TV show that's all about opulence and wealth called Grand Cayman on which was weird because like when that show came out I forgot that it is it's it's out it seems to be an interesting premise we talking about some CA what is it called Cayman Island the Cayman Islands it's called Grand Cayman called Grand it's people who like basically exile to the cay islands and they all come from some kind of money they're all kind of running from taxes there's less taxes but like you know Allah like very Beverly Hills or or just housewives in terms of like out of touch rich people kind of thing and Ari's ex-wife is seemingly was the main character of the show and the promo opened up with her referencing Army Hammer Scandal and we never heard about it again I'm like [ __ ] do I have to go watch this now no we were going to interview her but like she didn't want to talk about the show she didn't want to make the main thing the main thing she didn't want to make the main thing the main thing oh my God brutal uh nice nicely done uh she didn't not want to make the main thing the main thing now no one seems to be watching Laundry that show do you think that I know just how much you hate doing laundry do you think you would pull a Channing Tate you would oh my God yeah so Channing Tatum has bought enough new t-shirts for an entire year to avoid doing laundry he has or he did he did he did yeah what kind of t-shirts were I it says just plain white t-shirts yeah it says the year was either 1999 or 2000 and he called it the year of the fresh white tea so he was just buying like packs of t-shirts my question is was this an H&M $4 t-shirt or was this like a Kelvin Klein $30 t-shirt how Poppin was chaining Tatum in 1999 or 2000 he was just a wasn't he a stripper and Dancer this is before like magic mic and stuff had come out orep what is a dance step up his like breakout movie with I know but I'm just saying like an ancient Mt like for four bucks you get one wear out of it and for one wear pretty solid if you wash it once different story because avoiding laundry I'm just curious as to how much was the t-shirts this is giving pre Fame and for me I I like that even more cuz then I feel like he was like going to like TJ Maxx and buying like the five pack of like Fruit of the Loom t-shirts and honestly I said this to my boyfriend literally yesterday cuz I have a pile of laundry sitting on the bench in front of our bed and I was like I think I might hire someone to just come and do laundry cuz I hate it I feel like I'm always doing it whatever I need needs to now I'm like making another load sometimes I leave it in the faking washer and then I have to reload like it's just it's so tedious folding the whole thing it's one like I respect this a lot if I could throw away clothes I would does Conor do laundry at all yeah but like Connor's like a minimalist so I'm like his laundry loads are like one of mine for all of his clothes clothes and for me I'm like six loads deep being like Nick is the complete opposite Nick wears something once and then it's on the it's in the hamper He he'll wear it for an hour and then he'll be like oh this needs to be washed so if I try it on it's on the floor it's on the floor and so are towels he uses towels once and then they need to be washed and I'm like you have got to this is a three use towel like body towels or like towel you're getting out of the shower you're clean you're just wiping off and then it dries yeah I don't right I use the towel one time that's C how many towels do you have I've got a set I got a set I will say I don't like white shirts now are expensive right like well again was my point like it just depends on what the shirt is well so I did the math if you're not doing laundry go get a $4 t-shirt but if he paid $5 for each shirt and then he had one shirt per day for a whole year that's $1,825 pretty expensive yeah it is but laundry you know yeah how much how much does it take to do a load of laund La free for me I do my own laundry I know but you don't use any detergent well the typods are what like $20 water's free but I'm in an apartment so but if what if sh Shanny lived in a place that's true he had to go to a laundry M2 $2 per load yeah I feel like he needs to give us more insight into this what was your life like in 1999 can you remember sir um so apparently the Biggest man with the world's largest penis um is in this room I'm just kidding that laugh oh my God it was a joke the man with the world's largest penis reveals the hardest thing about his daily life his penis measures in at 14.2 in long it's a huge dick nobody that is truly terrifying he is the author of the upcoming autobiography a long story life with one of the world's biggest penises who like who but who's buy who is seeing that book on the shelves and a noble and being like of a huge [ __ ] I need that maybe a middle-aged woman you think like you know like Bridgerton but like modern no I feel like with we're scared of that we're scared of 14 14 inch long some people like horror films that's true that is true but this isn't a horror film this is a horror book and it feels you all like your crime listen to some of listen to some of his struggles with this world's largest penis when he gets erect he gets lightheaded oh it takes too much blood yeah his clothes never fit he is forced to buy a size up and use a belt the travesty yes use a belt you know I wore a belt for the first time with jeans in a long time I hate belts because of your no because the jeans were too big oh he's he's been barred from a yoga class due to his size being a distraction poor guy and he's had stalkers and people send creepy messages to him can I see this penis please I would like to see his face and also how does he know that his is the biggest well apparently he has no I'm so sorry there's just absolutely no [ __ ] way that's him this man has the world's largest penis he never I mean do you think God would give the world's biggest penis a beautiful face I will say Greek sculptures the the guys had small penises because that meant they had more knowledge a bigger brain really yeah so that was considered like a gift from God and the sculptors would always make the penises smaller so it would yeah to like show the human body and how beautiful it was outside of the um appendage I did kind of sparle down this cuz it was like 14 in is excessively large large the biggest dick well no cuz I looked it up I was like assuming that he engages in straight sex I was like how deep and my Google searches are a little wild how how far can a penis go into the vagina is what I search and the average vagina is about 2 to 5 in deep when not sexually aroused but it can stretch to 4 to 8 in when aroused vagina stretches vagin will you relax how do you think the baby came out of me yeah but during child birth but I didn't realize so basically a lady boner is like the runway just kind of opening up for reling oh boy that's a lady boner some people have not gone to sex head in seventh grade and it shows is that what you learn in sex head where the babies come from how they how the Body Works sure like Fallopian tubes uh the cervix yeah you learn about that but what you learn most of all what I learned is that you don't have sex before marriage or you'll die yes coach Carr really uh I don't know that but that was me and Sierra are on the exact same page today and you boys are like absolutely on one yay boys like this this is crazy anyway so what else did you Google just that and I was like you know this is enough for the end of the day but in my head I was like the ratio isn't mathing cuz I was like 14 in and 8 in make that that's the max the largest a woman's vagina will stretch during sex on average I'm assume on average but like I bet there's that 14inch vagina out there somewhere everyone's got their person not you making it like a lifetime special he's like somewhere out there there is a woman with Grand Canyon waiting for you sir oh my God on a separate note Natalie I found this one for you so basically a viral video of a Corporate Cubicle mother claimed that her kid likes to play Corporate America cubicle instead of unicorns superheroes that was me you're the unicorn and superheroes absolutely not you're the cicle I was clocked in now I wanted to be a mailman I was [ __ ] working you were a teacher though not an American corporate cubicle no but it was like kind of the same Vibe like I wanted to have like manila folders with like my kids like file paperwork and like that's what I wanted to do okay with my students teaching in my basement and would you make your mom like sign papers and like do homework I don't know if I involved my mother I feel like I it was very much just me and invisible people okay so this show them show Nell the video my boyfriend's nieces when I would go over there and they were like let's say 4 and 8 um I was very much forced to sit down at a restaurant and they would make a menu with their little chicken scratch and it's like do you want tomato soup or ice cream $8 they would give me money and then they would bring the food there I have to pretend to eat it and then I had to pay my check before I called imagination I had a Barbie register and I used to play that I worked at the airport cuz I thought that was fasc abely I had a I had a cash register and I was I was at the grocery store and I was you know checking the groceries and bagging them this kid goes a step further though cuz in the video she said during snack time he wrote his name on on paperwork and taped it to his yogurt and put it in the fridge that's really cute no but she was like this is not an office fridge who is eating your yogurt that's so cute though yeah cute that's like either you saw that in a movie or like a show that they're watching and they're like okay cool this is what daddy does when he goes to work I I think kid got it from Mom or Dad for sure he saw it somewhere the mom's like where did he get this from this is so crazy and didn't like sure show him how to do it no I don't think so at all you're such a cynic I think that he saw it on a TV show or heard yeah the dad came home was like can you believe Karen put her name on that nasty granola bar in the fridge no one's going to eat that nasty bar and then the kids like NE their snacks in the fridge and then he did it like that's how kids operate okay I believe it and I honestly wish I would have played American corporate cubicle cubicle kind of sounds fun like house like I feel like those are also like games that kids play like that stereotypically young you play house you're like five years old saying this is my husband yeah he's five and doesn't know he's my husband he's a Seft bear he made me a a ring pop we are married like you know that's what kids do I get the mom's statement though when she said I was playing unicorns all day here we're playing flout this paperwork or your animal dies like that's a little like next level like you know what you're signing the for why is my animal D funny I I love that that's really funny I can't wait for to see River's imagination and like what game she wants to play Natalie's like okay so today we're playing lawyer tomorrow we will play Banker let see what what you Vibe with yes Saturday we're playing my birthday no on Saturday we're having a job fair Saturday we're having a birthday go you know who's celebrating schwarz's Vanderpump birthday Joe oh my God maybe not her birthday but the birthdays they celebrated together a year ago she's posting a montage of their relationship wait like two days ago no it's actually quite I mean that's that's what's so crazy about it is it does like it has a soundtrack wa but is he still he's still in a relationship he's still with Sophia she is still blocked Joe is still blocked by shortz Accord yeah according to the text message that she read on her life what is she doing and she captioned it it took me months to post this but it's so sweet I wanted the world to see see and know how wonderful whatever this was wait wait wait guys this is giving hi and Sophia a little bit like to talk like about someone else while they're in a relationship and like romanticize the what y'all had together is the weirdest [ __ ] thing someone can do or or not even romanticizing it is the weirdest thing you can do but just talking in extensively about your ex when they're in a relationship even if it's negative is kind of weird no posting about it talk to your friends talk to your therapists absolutely I think talking about your ex publicly once they've moved on yeah short of them doing something terrible to you and you just like need you know the world to know but the romanticizing part where it's like what Sophia did being like Oh God and the way he kissed me and then Joe being like watch all these moments of us together it's like whatever you are [ __ ] delusional you are you are literally living in this weird La La Land like this man is in a fullon new relation Rel ship he has like respect his relationship respect like The Other Woman it's like what are you doing M I don't know I don't know I need to watch this video I do wonder if she's securing her spot on the next season that may or may not happen yeah it's giving clout Chaser a little bit what else is happening uh if they're probably probably this is really strange the way like imagine if like somebody that like interesting like if this happened with my boyfriend for example the comments that I would be leaving are you joking Joe my gosh it I guess it would be if there if we knew there wasn't romantic feelings from Joe if we knew that like it was just a full-on friendship and that they are still friends today and it is like his birthday like okay that's like and you're friends with his girlfriend and it's all just like a happy no I just made that up okay oh um but like that's or not no that's so I think that would be okay to post like a friend posting just like a bunch of funny videos of y'all they're more okay but knowing that you are obsessed with him knowing that he's in a relationship knowing that his relationship like doesn't appreciate you continuously talking about him and them and you're just like going to make this video and yeah it would have made sense during Vander pump like while it was airing if anything in my head like I kind of sometimes want to defend her and I'm like okay post it then but like now that no one's talking about like that's like six months ago now no one's talking about schz no one's talking about his relationship reunions done like why now it's really weird it's reminding me a little bit of even like the ice spice mine Klein when ice Spice made that video and meline commented on it just like why like mine Argie RG sorry but yeah she commented on Ice spice's video being like why and it's like that's what I would be like to to Joe like why literally why why now why do you hate me like what have I done to you Britney carite files for divorce from Jax and I Jax Divorce said this to Nick yesterday where it must be be just like a strange feeling to have the world instead of being like damn like that sucks you know I was really like rooting for them or I really liked them to be like everyone is like thank [ __ ] god finally hell yes like everyone is so happy that you're filing for divorce from your husband cuz he's awful did he get out of wherever he was in allegedly yeah allegedly that she filed after he came out and returned back to the valley so I don't it's it's alluding to a a relle if you will um a rocky moment that like she's he's not very healed after coming he's back and he's exactly the same kind of thing and then in the divorce petition she asked for full custody of their son Cruz with Jack's having some visitation rights and then she didn't ask for spousal support yeah so spousal support was not requested oh well see [ __ ] because I was like Britney was the bread winner for like a long period of time so I feel like she'll be fine post I can see Jack asking for yeah he definitely will and just to make it as difficult as possible for her to leave I mean if he doesn't I would maybe he did learn something in his facility but I'm like it knowing Jack I feel like he's not going to make this easy for her at all no poor thing we're currently right now actually talking about Jack's cheating on Britney with laa so use that well speaking of Vander pump uh if you are missing your Vander pump uh we are recapping Vander pump every week we're currently on season 4 episode 14 where Jax is in fact cheating on his soon to be wife he wasn't cheating alleged alleged mhm well just another Scandal another Jack Scandal if you are looking at if you are wondering how this crazy couple got together in the first place recap with us over at viles plus go to B files.com check it out we also have our update specials for all your updates for all your ass Nicks teex texting office hours and our weekly pop extra all those pop culture topics we didn't get to talk about during the week of viles uh all right Arin County there's a lot of decisions you have to make when you have a baby and the one that I feel the most comfortable and safe 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everyone can do them and it takes a while for them to grow out and they go through a lot of awkward stages although so I thought she looked pretty good in her little uh photosh phot phot yeah so she did she I was going to say she needs to like order some fake ones off Amazon clip them in for a moment and see how she feels well so she photoshopped herself and posted it with like Betty Bangs so like the shortest of the shortest bangs well that's actually a really good point Natalie I feel like uh wigs and accessories or clipons or extensions have become incredibly socially acceptable uh for the ladies out there so why would anyone get bangs rather than just maybe just buying some bangs for the night well cuz some well yeah I guess if she didn't if if she wanted them for more than the night out and they they s you know I guess maybe there's some nicer ones more expensive ones but like the ones on Amazon are definitely like they're not the greatest you know you can definitely there's a big clip she kicked out her boyfriend to spend less money on him so she should be able to afford some pretty good extension bang some fank bangs I'm sure I'm sure she knows a stylist or two I'm sure Jen has a who can give her like some really nice bangs to try out to demo for a couple weeks yeah listen did so she looked good in the in the Photoshop the Photoshop she looked good but the audience was like girl no told her now well she did ask the audience to bully her out of doing essentially yeah yeah that's that's that I've made that mistake before of asking for uh strangers opinions online and then quickly you're like no shouldn't have done that yeah I do respect the self-awareness of being like this haircut is not for me but I still want it cuz that's me with shaving my head like I look like a rat with a shaved head but like I would love to shave my head yeah I I would love to like do a a a real chop chop but I would never I actually can't what's it Cho chop just like very chopped yeah I would love I would love but I don't have I don't I don't have it in me I'm not brave enough you should get away she has my support yeah Nick is like you should shave your head I'm like he loves you that much he does you can p that one off I don't think she should shave her head but if she if she went real short not that much I don't love her that much a pixie cut yeah a little a little Rosary baby I'd still love her for sure I'd still love her I'd be into it okay interesting I don't know I think I did like lower eyeliner on like my lower line and then my hair was really straight like you know how sometimes you do your makeup and you're like oh this just is not like you do it the same as you do it every day but sometimes it just doesn't lay right and you're like this looks off yep so that happened to me recently and I was like I just like something about me is just I don't look like me and I just made a little story on Instagram being like I just feel like I don't look like myself like that's so crazy anyone else ever feel like this and I the amount of DMS being like Oh my God it's this it's because you did this to yourself it's because you did that to yourself and I'm like okay perfect I actually wasn't asking but thank you so much for so you got a bunch of people pointing out different various laws they oh my God it's yeah they're like oh my God it's because like your teeth are crooked and I'm like oh they they're crooked every day not that one can't be that but thanks I guess do you know that PO uh B Bobby the one that does the podcast in the bed and like talks to people she posted a video talking about this specifically cuz I guess she was getting a bunch of comments saying that like her cheek filler was awful and all this stuff and she just got she was like in her car and was just like I'm just going to say this one time and then I won't say it again but I haven't had filler in my cheeks the way that you guys are just ready to like talk [ __ ] about a person you don't know and telling me what I've done wrong and what I need to dissolve all I've had is a little bit of filler in my lip and guess what if I didn't put the filler in my lip then you guys would just be talking [ __ ] about how thin my lips are D there's no pleasing you guys and she's like you know it's really weird they sitting around just like commenting the [ __ ] on somebody's profile do what normal people do send it to the group chat send it to your friends and talk [ __ ] about me you don't need to say it on my [ __ ] page and I'm like thank you no that's that's very true good for you Bob where would we be without our Fanatics you know not getting plastic surgery to like alter what you actually look like in hopes to make other people happy that would be crazy to do that people do it no even the stuff like what pisses me off is the people who claim they're professionals I don't know if they are but they're like plastic surgeons or they're this and they're like trying to get a following on social media and so they'll post like a picture of kindall Jenner and be like this is all the work kindall Jenner has had done and it's like what the [ __ ] do you know and they'll like show a photo of her when she was 12 and then a photo of her today at like 29 and it's like no I think that's just puberty and like growing up I don't know it's l or they guess the ages they'll like pull a a picture and be like she's 50 yeah and she's like 28 yeah it I always find that to be crazy no it is crazy it's crazy yeah and it's like really it's [ __ ] up that they think that they like know what they've done behind closed doors and they're just like spewing out false don't know someone who's not your client it's something you quite literally do not [ __ ] know a fact no it's wild well not to mention that like basically every photo or video out there can be altered or changed through a filter and so like even if it was just like they're using a filter yeah the [ __ ] people can do like on face tune shocking shocking it's not filler it's just a $10 monthly subscription like Lally yeah I mean going back to OC I feel for Shannon so much so hard what is happening to Shannon is is disgusting it's be I feel like it's beyond the normal kind of drama and shenanigans that the housewives deal and the kind of the inner fighting of the groups like I what has happening to her I think is just truly horrific and F mhm yeah like what do we think of Alexis and obviously we don't know what that conversation was why she was so upset and like crying she's just always been a drama queen and like lives for it so that's also kind of where it's just a major eye roll like you've met this man you've been dating for a few months like why are you adopting all of his problems as your own why are you attacking his ex why are you on a show that his ex has been on for years and then claiming that this woman is ruining your life for anyone who who isn't watching real households of Orange County so Shannon is dating this man and she was in a relationship with him as often is the case people buy things for each other in in relationship ships especially if your love language is like you know and then it sounds like something happened I don't know this guy is claiming that Shannon ruined his life I don't know I don't know what she could or should have done it doesn't really matter sort of her murdering someone I don't know so she was the bread winner of the relationship at first and then like towards the end of it he had more of the money is what it's kind of alleging now so then he paid for a facelift okay and if he paid for or he like he bought her a gift or got her a car if there is not a sheet of paper on a Post-It note or a piece of copy paper or notebook paper that says I owe him $70,000 for my face lift heart Shannon bador yeah or I'm paying for this for you and you need to pay me back was there's no talk of any conversation like this this is like a guy who is in a relationship says I Got You Babe gave her a gift decided to pay for it I'm assuming got things in return you know nothing's free in this world you know what I'm saying and so even if it was just the love of Shannon he gave it under the like the guys of being a boyfriend in a relationship like an act of of Act of gift giving like a literal love language and now that their relationship is fallen out of favor he is basically given her a bill that's CRA a very expensive Bill and it seems like all his motivation is to try to ruin her life he's emotionally bullying her y then meanwhile you have Alexis who is like joining forces with this guy mhm and doubling down and doing all these things and I am just wondering what is Tam like why is Tamara seeming to be in alignment with Alexis like I don't even care what Shannon did what he is doing is spite in its revenge like and maybe Shannon has to apologize for something you know again maybe Shannon did something wrong but like it is gr gross that like everything he's doing is out of spite and revenge and trying to disparage her yeah and it just seems ugly and gross cuz she offered a settlement and he was like no I need the monthly payment of the full 75,000 and then Alexis is saying well there's a video a video what I don't care what could the video alleging out of like the night of the DUI she's like there's a video there's a video and like she's like I don't even know what this video is and then everybody's like what is the video but she's not showing the video what she did was wrong the DUI you know she shouldn't have driven drunk she obviously made a mistake she seems to be wanting to like do the work to get better it is not her ex-boyfriend's responsibility to like hold her like morally accountable and punish her you it's not his [ __ ] job and like what he is doing is I think just [ __ ] gross well it also said that allegedly the video is from the night that Shannon got her Dy which it's ring camera footage I don't know if it's like handheld phone footage but regardless I'm like does that not make you an even shittier person that I'm like in the process of knowing that she was wasted and her getting in her car instead you're having videos or taking videos of her versus I don't know telling her not to drive or standing like you know what I mean like we're Keys yeah you're sitting here being like look at what a [ __ ] up she is but at the end of the day I'm like you're the one that's trying to expose her for it and then you're also adding legal trouble on top of that like you want to see This Woman's downfall and it's sickening and call back to Lisa Rena like when you don't show the video or say what it is we're assuming the worst of it like what's happening in this and then you have Tamara sitting down with Shannon like seemingly lecturing her about her behavior the audacity I don't know if you get to like lecture someone else about their life choices just because you've you know haven't been in a DUI it just seems a little hypocritical no I mean I think that's actually really fair and I'm also like Tamara has a history of just you know throwing her friends under the bus and just saying and doing the most awful things to them so it's kind of like I don't know maybe like those in those in Glass Houses like you're sitting here trying to like say that Shannon's so messed up but exactly kind of what you said her family's standing behind her she's getting support elsewhere she realizes that she made a mistake recovery or you know trying to rehabilitate mistakes that you've made in the past don't always look the same for each person she doesn't feel like she has a drinking problem why are you so fixated on how many drinks she's having if you don't want to be her friend leave her alone but you clearly just want the drama you want the air time you want the camera time and that's all it it gives because you don't really care about the well-being of anybody or like the weight of your words yeah and it feels real gross because we're seeing Shannon like I just you're just wit witnessing someone on the show it's it just feels different than other housewife drama where you feel like she's being emotionally bullied by her some of her peers and her ex and it's just icky and ex's new girlfriend ex's new girlfriend and what could have Shannon done to feel like they're Justified for treating her like this because it's not the DUI like again they're not the police they're not the moral cops you know like they've I who where who are they to sit there and lecture her about her behavior it's giving like bruised ego to me like from like his perspective or just like having things be talked about or maybe his like Financial situations of her like paying for everything that it like seems like this is his way of like retaliation you know or being like look I've done everything or now you owe me this and it's like the only way to like publicly embarrass her because she obviously isn't keeping receipts being like well I took you and she did say she's like I paid for this trip I paid for the birthday I took all of your kids and I didn't have to do that but I'm not sitting here being like okay tit for Tot you owed me 10,000 so let's take off this from what I owe like you know what I mean like why are you complicating the situation if I gave my ex's receipts being like all right you owe me this because now it didn't work out and I think I entitled to that money back that makes zero [ __ ] sense so why does she do we know anything about the Core case like why does she even have to pay them I mean I know like if if he has more money than her a lot more money she could just he could just sue her regardless of whether he can win or not he could ruin her by just legal fees and legal costs and he can maybe just afford to do that that is but it sounds like he's not doing very well himself so it's like how do you have all this money that is the question it's and again if it goes to like the courts why would the courts agree to say he is entitled to any of this money that doesn't seem right you know unless he has some kind of written agreement between the two of them but it doesn't seem like there is you think that would get brought up I don't think that they have any proof of anything outside of just like I said I paid 75,000 for a facelift she I don't think is entitled to pay that back if that's what happened during your relationship if you didn't have a problem paying for it then and you didn't put anything in writing why are you coming back with your new girlfriend being like you owe us 75 G I think it's one of the cheesiest and sleaziest moves anyone can do um in a relationship to seemingly buy something for your partner uh and then come back and say you pay me you you owe me this money because your feelings about this person changed it is the one of the slimiest things you can do because again nothing's free you didn't you didn't give this facelift to Shannon out of the kindness of your heart you wanted something in return don't know what that was even if it was just her affection you wanted something in return and now since your mind's changed it's the slimy it's so [ __ ] slimy it's so [ __ ] slimy team Shannon all the way team Shannon anyways team Shannon up next Allison and Isaac are with us to talk a little about Chet green Chef green Chef is the number one meal kit for clean eating delivering pre-portion and prepped quality foods with limited processed ingredients green Chef sends organic fresh produce responsibly Source proteins and Chef design recipes in every box for satisfying nourishing and convenient meals that make it easy to stick to a clean routine so I know a lot of you people are busy out there you're working you don't have time to go to the grocery store certainly plan meals or even get ready to cook well let green Chef take all that time and give it back to you and still eat healthy and clean green Chef is 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Binkies wait okay we need the milk we need and then you're just and then you're like wait oh God we have to change her diaper never mind oh yeah all it I I say PCI but growing up I called it an uh oh we called it a Nook a I always called it a [ __ ] a Binks I like Binky [ __ ] Binks is like kind of cool isn't it kind of cute the cat in uh is it Hocus Pocus or who's the cat yeah yeah thanks thanks yeah um yeah we haven't really came up with an official name I grew up calling it an uh- oh because every time I dropped it I would be like uh oh but I feel like that doesn't really roll off the tongue like Binks where's where's her uh oh yeah yeah yeah it does I feel like pass easy we do call a bottle of Baba though that's like you call it a baba yeah like cuz she'll be able be like Baba you know I'm just like walking around like Babas B yeah but we make it plural more we yeah being a parent is so wild yeah it is it's so crazy so this is obviously y'all's first child you have she's eight months right uh yeah she's Dating turning nine months in like a week my gosh okay her name is Scotty yes oh my gosh um how long have you'all been married three and a half years I'm like a serious like are we married no we've we've been married three and a half years but we've been together 10 so it's kind of like you know is I we've been married for a long time I mean we haven't but it feels like we have been yeah like legally married we actually eloped on a beach in like 2020 so I don't I'm like do we count that as our wedding date that's that's like four years feels intense yeah Nick and I are four years in like a couple weeks really yeah like met or no like just being together we've it's I say marriage I was like I swear I just like are you a liar I don't know I feel like just saw a lot of content I don't know when you have a kid you're like wait what is the concept of time anymore time is crazy yeah we've been we've been together for for four years but married for couple months well congrats five years ago so that's making 10 years feel like a really long like we were 19 I couldn't even drink you were 19 yeah babies you were with him through college everything the NFL draft yep you really paid your dues I know that's why I when people are like why are you talking about the NFL like you're in it I'm like I basically am he wouldn't be here without me like you could have got Russell Wilson I know for real but uh I love how that's a verb Russell Wilson it's crazy though cuz when we first started dating like cuz I went to Notre Dame and I wasn't even starting at Notre Dame I was like barely playing that's why when people are like oh you knew he was going to the NFL I was like no offense but like he wasn't that good yeah I was I mean you know it was decent but either like okay not good as strong first of all it's NRE Dame it is a premier college program and there's a lot of people who like won't play their first two years and still go in the first round because they're you know the players above them are also that good as well so it's not like being like the top player at witch State this is n [ __ ] Dame we're talking okay but I knew he was going to be smart like if you didn't go to the NFL I was like oh he's like still smart that is true cuz I did hear they don't [ __ ] around with their academics they don't care that you can like run a 440 and be 270 lbs like you also need to know math right absolutely yeah math at a minimum and like other schools definitely like people don't really talk about it they will do your work like guys are taken care of from an academic standpoint Notre Dame you're in the fire like I our first date like remember I was studying for like I can't I got to study for Portuguese like how lame is that I'm like finally she went to Michigan State I'm finally meeting a girl like Michigan State girl looks good I'm like I got to study for my Portuguese exam right I'm like do you speak any Portuguese no a little bit a little bit I I don't even know how to say a little bit in Portuguese so that would have been cool so did you pass the class or I did I found a way okay I found a way but we got it done um but yeah that's crazy 10 years ago that's like it's a lifetime that is a decade yeah oh my God it's crazy I feel old you might have had like a couple followers yeah I'm like you knew I was going to be Tik Tok famous that's probably why you became the famous one I know which I actually that was like my paper plate award in high school I love it I love it so you guys give us the origin story four years five years ago um I slid into his DMS DM five years ago and um yeah and we like met New York a few weeks later and kind of started talking every now and then and I'd come out to LA and did that for like 10 or so months and then I was like I want to date you and he said no and so I was like okay then I'm out of here and he was like wait no I love you and then he's like I want to date you and we started being exclusive and I moved out here like two months later and moved in with him wow a Modern Love Story truly a modern love the DM and then like I like you you're like I don't like you but I love you no literally and then him being like well now that we're dating do you want to move in with me and I'm like yeah I do which is also that's very like modern too cuz like rent prices you're like why would we both pay well I was also Liv I was living in Savannah Georgia so I'm like I have my I'm from Georgia McDon you don't know MCD but continue it's a farm okay okay it's a farm there's a farm yeah f um and so I was like well I'm going to keep my apartment in Savannah but I'm not do I need to get an apartment in LA and then I was like I don't need to pay that I only know you I'll be at your house every day yeah like I'm moving in I did something very critical which I appreciated on a first date I'm sure you apprec like all I need is the insincere attempt Bo about like about like paying for the bill okay you know on a first date like I need the oh for sure the the old read kind of all about that no I just don't like I really hate it the hell like no but Isaac Isaac goes a step further and will let you actually pay because I paid rent until we got engaged like he was trash at football couldn't pay for anything couldn't spell his name and I'm splitting rent 50/50 I'm like wait this doesn't calculate you're like wait I thought the wag life was different what's going on I was stripping yeah girls are like why are you like continuing College like you're married you're getting get married to Isaac and I'm like because I have to split rent that was crazy like I don't I'm not proud of that like I feel like I'm going to have to do a public apology like but M so like you like made her made her so or like it just happened no it was a conversation before we moved together yes so my career has been weird let me give some context here so when I first got in the NFL I got released NFL immediately and then like went on to have like very consistent years but early on I was like yeah I'm like barely in the NFL like why you were starting that year that's hold on I'm going to have Isaac's back here it is it is a day I'm I'm I'm I'm a big n of I love I'm a fan the N it is cut down day oh yesterday was cut down day they had a lot of players and like yeah rookie contracts like you know when players who aren't drafted when they sign as Street free agents you know how much money they make like a thousand bucks some of them it's crazy like make no [ __ ] money they're they're poor as [ __ ] and on rookie if you're drafted in like the seventh round you got a little bit of money but then you're paying an agent you're paying all these people like yeah and then you could be broke real fast you could be I'll give you know let's I'll give numb so my I signed my rookie contract was $465,000 didn't make that that year so like that's just information year or is that how many that's for that year for that year okay so then I got released immediately and got put on practice squad again ended up playing but when I was put on practice squad I was making Seven Grand every two weeks and that's only during the season which is 16 Tak out before after that was post tax so like I'm making Seven Grand every two weeks for a third of the year yeah and I'm like why why would I be paying rents like we didn't even live together though so I'm just saying in defense of Isaac at first like just being in the NFL doesn't always it's not the same for everybody it's not you see all the big contracts but there are a lot of guys like trying to get by with their future very unguaranteed now yes but things have changed rookie minimum now is like almost 800 Grand so it's it goes up every year and that's one year so like it's changed um and and now nil like you didn't have nil yeah but I don't know if how it made anything I wasn't but when I was when Alie and I met and she moved out here she did the she did like the I don't I don't know if it was insincere I actually I never really asked her but she was like she was like um she sent me like some apartments I'm think like where should I get an apartment I don't really know La Big pen house you're like I was working you're like and I was and I was like let's be real here like you don't really know anyone here I and I was and I'm always telling people like you don't really need a rush to move in so like here I am giving advice on the show and then like feel like I'm being a hypocrite but I was just like listen it's a risk this is crazy but like what's the point of you getting your own place and be stressed out about money like I I just bought this house I need to fill it up like I I'm falling I need I need I'm doing just fine I don't need your money I I don't but I really appreciated Natalie not assuming that I would just front the bill it was like yeah when when like how far into a relationship do you think you can stop doing that like do you think I should be married like like acting like I'm out my credit card well now you're married now you're sharing expens do you think marriage is like what if yeah what is the cut off that's a good question I think if you're not married and you want to split [ __ ] you have the right to ask I like it and I have the I guess I have the right to decline like [ __ ] no I'm not yeah but I don't I yeah in 2024 with marriage being what it is kind of like not what it used to be yeah yeah anything goes these days I I think uh you're not entitled to anyone else's money I don't know I helped him get to the NFL I feel like I'm a little entitled you're a part of it yeah we used to go to the field do drills together yeah no that's not true she was watching tape I was like he's lying no it's not true I feel like I feel like you're right yeah marriage or like you're right marriage is definitely the point we split I was petty though but you did stop we split dinners you she got to the point you guys we split everything okay dinners is crazy unless you ask me out on a date two cards on the bill and you're dating no I was big vano request I'm in bed like this is did you add the s in there so publicly you look like meanwhile you're in the Uber you're like hey look at that VMO request yeah I'm like I he text me 3 Days Later hey following up on the VMO let's joking about it but I def it was I was petty I went through a time in my life prob was petty but I also had my own job so it's not like I was annoyed yeah I just said that if you wanted us to go out to a nice dinner like after a game with all your teammates I'm not paying half the bill at mastros all your teammates are throwing in and I'm just throwing in two but one could argue maybe that's why you became Tik Tok famous because you're like you know Isaac motivated you cuz like someday you might need to make that bag I that it's because of is you got if you got him to the NFL maybe he got you into Tik Tok it cuts both way ying and a Yang Isaac hated social media I mean my God I'm out here getting torch I did so when I first it's okay came out of high school no I mean literally like I'm day I'm day in the life now but like day in the life now no I saw you at that John Legend event you were recording honey but I I was getting it for but yeah when we first started talking I was just like social media is fake which all the stuff is still true but like social media is fake like people spend too much time on it so I like didn't have anything like I was pretty anti I mean obviously things Chang because there's a way to utilize it it like none of this would exist without it but yeah I was like I was weird about it yeah but look at us now so you were like hey I want to start just like recording oh no I just started oh perfect oh no I I think I privated the video there's like a YouTube Vlog and it's of you and I in Vancouver and it's like the typical no copyright music like to wa too loud in the background and me being like Hey we're GNA go and walk around and then you show me walking around and then okay now I think we're going to go back to the hotel it's really cringe wait yeah this is 2014 yeah wow like you've been you've been cooking you've been I got to make money somehow no one's paying my rent yeah that's that's crazy to think about though yeah and now we're here when did you guys get start like started with social Social Media media and like what was the what was the point where it was like I was doing this when we met so I was kind of in the game following the bachelor you know I did a lot I I had a lot of trial and error yeah you know I was roller skating there there was a time when n and I were hanging out and I clearly did not think that we'd end up together because I I asked her to record me roller skating babe the fact that I'm here today was it like a cringe like you're like this is he's like he's like Moon he's Moon walking on roller like in the middle of put the phone down you're like this is pic like hey man like you're here and I need to I need to post some stupid funny [ __ ] or whatever like it was you or the tripod so like literally I'm like I'm taking her to the airport tomorrow I'll probably never see her again can you this didn't see this rollerblading phase first of all it's roller skating it's like [ __ ] disrespect so sorry he's serious about it he's very serious about so anyways I yeah I did some I was doing some Bob Ross shirtless photo paintings as well I tried a lot of different things oh wow you know you know after the you just you don't know what's going to stick the Bob Ross face what that were you in your 20s 30s yeah I don't know how old you are isn't that a rude question to ask somebody how old they are yeah [ __ ] off we just hired a new assistant Isaac yesterday was like so how old are you I'm like Isaac you're not allowed to ask a woman her age I feel like if you're if I could guess that you're below like 25 it's like super chill to ass you think yeah cuz then it's like how old are you okay you're probably like 23 24 okay that's chill Isaac hasn't been in the professional Arena ever in his life so he doesn't really know that's true I'm super curious though post bachelor people's like uh Journeys post bachelor they're all over the place a lot of people do different things but yeah it is like crazy how people just blow up from doing the bachelor they can for sure yeah it's it's I feel like it's definitely been less and less yeah so who was the last season that had like a pop was it Colton Joey now but I'm like in that well I feel like Colton was like the last like big talked about season Peter was after Peter was oh my God I Peter Peter Hannah Hannah and Peter I think Peter was the last big like I all those girls kind of and ever since after Peter it wasn't until Joey until you had something where the audience was really excited about you had several pop popular women from that respective season yeah was all over social media but yeah it's been you know they they haven't exactly done a good job of selecting their fan favorites as as as the leads yeah well just from the social media perspective too like I feel like people get on and they assume they're going to blow up so then they're doing like these like cringy Tik toks and you're like honestly like we don't need to see you rollerblading like cheing it was intentional guys I know no I know but like you know what I mean it's like I think what it is though is like it's different like uh I don't know how if you just kind of started From Scratch and you were doing some videos and a couple popped I'm guessing that's probably what started but I think when you come off couple popped when you come off reality TV you're you're literally given this platform and there's a sense of like I should do something with this well I feel like you you don't work for it no offense you don't like have to I worked for no I'm saying like when you get this instant fan base they're kind of like oh what is he going to do next and what you do next is going to tell a lot about how successful you're going to be but I feel like going from zero and having to work every single follower it's I don't know I feel like I look at differently well and you master the process of like what your audience wants how to curate the content how to speak to your audience because you know if you come off the Bachelor or any reality TV competition show like love Island recently is the new hit show it's like people are they're not following you like you know people follow you probably they like your content they like your mom content they you know like how you they like your mom I was like I don't show her you know like but theyve they've discovered you and Then followed you based off of what you were giving them as opposed to people following people on reality TV because like yeah maybe they want to follow their love story but they also just like are fascinated with them or they relate to them based off a perception of who they are and they come off the show and people want to then show who they really are there's usually some resistance there from the audience some people also just watch is like to just like you're a spectacle to them right and then like sometimes you start posting what you want to post and then your audience is like like and then people panic and it's a real it's a whole kind of very fascinating life cycle but it is you you there's a lot of trial and error yeah and it's it can be very difficult and it is kind you and you do have a lot of people with like uh who were on years ago who have a few 100,000 followers but they're kind of worthless yeah it's kind of crazy in the nicest way it's also crazy cuz like he's like no The Bachelor Bachelorette scene you you know how like there were like content houses do you remember those like I feel like that's there's like a version of that with bachelor and bachelorette people cuz like I feel like we'll go to events and like they're always together and they like travel in packs I mean you would is that am I right or no yeah because it there I think it's just a lived experience there familiarity you go to a party you don't know any yeah it's like you know yeah that's a good point you know I would imagine NFL players show up at a party and they're going to hang out together in the same way real stars do yeah that's a great comparison who is like can you name drop like our uh like an NFL player that we're like friends with or that we talk to on a daily basis Travis kely is he one of them or no like some of my homies who do you I mean I'm trying to think of somebody that people would know uh like one of your friends yeah like NFL homies I mean Joey Bosa yeah he's people would know him yeah he's a homie lot of people know Joey I feel like a lot of people know who that is people know Joey yeah well I've been on let's see four teams you just kind of accumulate like a bunch of friends so have you what teams have you been on so Chargers then I went to the Colts the Browns and the Raiders last year favorite I'll just go ahead and what do you what was your favorite uh Chargers yeah there's some about being here also like she mentioned Georgia Farm like I actually grew up on a farm in Georgia and then went to M Dame just straight cornfields and then like got drafted out here so when I got out here I'm like I'm in the NFL I'm living in Orange County like it was crazy so yeah it was kind of wild I think for us just that wow factor that experiencing that wow factor I think we're also here for four years so like in four years fresh out of college is when you make a lot of new friends as adults it's like you start to learn yourself as more of like okay I'm not just a student so I feel like that's why and just like us being here it was so concrete we weren't worried about you getting cut even though you did but I feel like it was more concrete and then like I liked all of our phases in different cities in the NFL like Cleveland was fun Colts were fun Vegas obviously fun but I was pregnant so I couldn't really take advantage of that um but yeah Chargers I just feel like yeah it's been fun though I got a question for you very similar to what Football Drama you had for me uh and I asked this because there's some drama going on in the did you guys watch Love Island USA no we watch bits we haven't been able to Deep dive okay there is a bit of a drama going on at the end there was a finale whatever uh and then there's uh for those of you who don't know there's the Bombshells and there's like the OG people right so the OG people are there early on from beginning to end and the Bombshells come in and try to like stir [ __ ] up right and very much like are we talk about like even Bachelor world there's people who like go all the way to hometowns right and then there's people who leave week two or three right and then at the finale you have this drama P this bombshell named DEA who really didn't the host Ariana accused her of being like a mean girl because like she showed up to the reunion expecting to be like asked a lot of questions and like there was other drama going on for some of the more important characters on the show uh and now de is out there like accusing the host Ariana of being a mean girl and being like I had a lot to say and like ask me this you didn't ask me that and like I understand where the deas are coming from but it's also like this is a TV show and you're not a star and I am curious for you I feel like in the NFL it's a very interesting sport because you wear helmets right and no no but seriously a lot of I think there's a lot of NFL players who go to the league right and you're a professional football player and you have some money and you're on TV and I think there's an expectation of being famous and being known but a lot of people don't know who you guys are especially if you're not and then you have your upper echelon players your stars who everyone knows right I got to wonder because in reality TV World it can be very caty it can be very high schoolish it can be very Petty we see it on these reality TV shows all I know where we were going with this but I feel like in the NFL there's a lot of this as well that doesn't get talked about is like is there a lot of like hierarchies in terms of like who the it girls are you know you know what I'm saying from a wives perspective for sure I was going to say it's there's two different worlds where it's like wies and then the actual like guys on the field like well you can give wives cuz that's juicier but I'll give the but I feel like players could be for players it you start with wives you want to think about your answer um yeah I feel like it it has varied team to team but if you think of like any group of 53 girls in a room like you're not going to get along with every single one of them you're going to gravitate towards different girls whatever but there have been teams that you've played for where girls won't even like give you the time a day unless your husband has a certain contract size or if there he's a veteran and I think I saw it more like earlier on in your career it hasn't really been like well now you get to teams and they're like oh that's Allison Co like they know I don't think people give a [ __ ] about that they for sure do Isa like I like once I cried on the internet people like I lost my credibility you cried on the internet oh yeah you don't what did you cry did you film it every oh yeah yeah she's one of those no no not like that joking explain this to me because I am a bit critical of people who like cry pause pull out the phone press play and then continue the cry it's like if you're having a meltdown I made a video literally show no I made a video I feel like that was a few years ago where I was like hold on I have to like get this footage of me crying no it was when you got cut it was two weeks before I gave birth and he loses his job and we have to move that's scary oh yeah and I and I literally pull out the camera and I was like so we're moving we're like the people need this I'm like allly get the camera out just just [ __ ] what are we doing I feel like you you'll do it and but it's uh like you'll put like a joking text over like it's not like serious no I don't I think if you see someone crying on the internet I never try to evoke that someone's going to feel bad for me I'm always just like I think it's the meltdowns that I'm critical of where someone is like allegedly having a panic attack and they're crying and I'm wait wait hold on this is being filmed by you yeah like like you clicked play you know what I hate to say this but like the people who put the camera down on their like bathroom floor and then go over and like sit on the bathroom floor and then put their hand head yeah I and I've seen people some people have argued that there's like an art to social media but I'm like if I'm upset I don't know that I'm going to record it like that maybe I'll record like my like puffy face after and be like hard day it is crazy when you think about like what you're watching on Tik toks and then you you think about oh no wait they set the camera up and then press put the timer on ran over to the curtains oh wait no fix their hair oh press 10 second and then open the curtains and then put it in this like you woke up and you opened your curtain and you like my life does not look like that even if I tried no one's ever just like taken a selfie click and that be the one they post ever no there's a 40 in that 40 that I was like that's low day yeah it is crazy especially the day in the lives like people do these like voiceovers and I'm like bro like I wish there was like a behind the scenes of like you setting up your camera or it's yeah it's wild I've I've tried the setting up the camera like putting my groceries in the car and then you Clos the trunk and I did that and I was like that was so [ __ ] stupid and then you and then you open the trunk grab your phone looking at you like you shut your phone in there but people don't think about it I'm like I'll go to the comment section like expecting people to be like this idiot like what are they doing and then people are like oh my God love your content I'm like but like I also like I love watching them too because it is so and you're like oh yeah that is like wow what a great day you had you know you're like I need one of those yeah I'm like wait I need to do that and then I try to do it and I'm like Fu what the [ __ ] no I just need to put these groceries in the fridge yeah I was going to say that's actually my favorite is the ones from inside the refrigerator and I'm opening it up and it's like you literally put your phone in close the door and opened it back up yeah yeah it's impressive no I'm not going to lie I've definitely forgot my phone in a fridge before and I'm like where the [ __ ] is my phone Isaac what' you do with my phone um but we'll back to the the drama thing with on teams I think it exists with players too it's not as bad like I think guys are chill but there's just such a difference in how much people make that it's hard not to have that be a thing millions of dollars yeah like but hundreds of millions of dollars yeah your teammate could be making 30 times what you make I mean more than that I mean like CD lamb just signed a new contract he's making like 30 mil a year and there's rookie receivers on the team making I don't know what did Jordan love just sign crazy it's like over M so if you've got a guy making 60 mil a year he's making $4 million a game and then you got me remember the story $7,000 every two weeks he doesn't care about me there's no way like just if if he's really worried about winning and he's competing like he's not worried about Isaac on practice squad his rookie year so you were making like 3,500 a game I will a I mean I wasn't playing but oh but yes which I mean I mean it it obviously changed like my career totally changed that year it got way better but yeah there's a huge I remember like when I first got in the league they used to hand out checks so like you'd go to your locker and your check sitting there guys would open it up and I remember just looking at the guy next to me my check was Seven Grand and his was like 120 and I'm like bro we just did the same 14-day period like you didn't do that much more than me um yeah cuz he wasn't playing there's like inactives actives on game day and this guy literally was not playing so we did the exact same thing and he was making that much more than me so I feel like I feel like because of that differentiation between like salaries it kind of makes sense like I have to like the girls who don't want to be friends with me because your contract's not that high I kind of understand it's like you're living in this place like every single football season like you're experiencing a very different NFL so like we don't have that much in common yeah yeah whereas I feel it is me hanging out with the girls who are new to the team or their husband was on practice squad last year now he's on 53 men I feel like it you have more in common I think it's yeah it's like almost like high school like you have to almost pay your dues and once you get to be like the senior in high school you're like I used to be a freshman I used to get Haz I used to have to do this stuff so like for sure it feels like there's a little bit of that it's a little high schooly but also like you're saying with uh just people coming and going like my locker I've had years where my locker is next to kind of like the transaction Locker right where they'll bring a guy in for like two weeks and you kind of know like this dude's not going to be here in two weeks Isaac for i' I've been that guy before I signed with the Raiders two years ago I was there for two weeks like you are just really cautious about making like these crazy friendships it's just not like we're not going to even be together in a week I don't know so there's that too uh you try your best but it's just crazy yeah it's Cutthroat you hate and love the NFL yeah but are you officially retired no I mean I listen if anybody listening I'm ready but uh I as you get older because I've done Seven Seasons this will be year eight I've been a bubble guy the last couple years and bubble guy meaning will he make the team will he not make the team so sometimes it just takes longer it's super frustrating though because I see guys and you're like I know for a fact I'm objective like this guy will never play you will never have him play he doesn't contribute to your locker room he's not a leader he's whatever um but they're always betting on the next guy famous wife well yeah you're now you're a TR you cost a certain amount the future you know yeah it's but I get it what do you do to like stay in the game if you're not you know no yeah like what do what does your day to-day look like training camp you got to miss training camp yeah that's I mean I I am not mad about missing training camp assuming I play training camp is horrible what am I doing to stay in the game what do you think everything I mean you work out every single day you eat super healthy healthy is like are you talking about that stuff yeah I'm like these guys who are in training camp aren't carrying around a 20 lb weight all day like I'm carrying around a baby all day all the time we have our we have our own training camp at home it just involves a child instead of no sleep like you know I'm My Mind Is Right grinding I'm ready yeah no he's ready to leave the house and to have an excuse to not wake up in the middle of the night I would can yourself more of a 34 or 43 D end uh I 43 for sure but I can do both and again that's why Packers are running a 43 now I'm just curious you're a Packers guy oh so that's a Jordan love yes yes it's a very big Packy yeah I mean the Gody green we'll see you think they'll be good this year we don't have to go deep in I think they might be real good I our house has a gold wall oh wow it just happened to have one wait this is pre or post you moving in oh no he bought the house with was that selling point for you be I was like oh wall I bought a green chair it looks good yeah oh look get Eng gold look at that I know yeah I just I just yeah now it's all I'm like wow everything is Ren gold um I don't I'm I still have question marks on Jordan love uh oh I that's people for you no people don't people wouldn't agree with me I'm just not like we'll see well sure anything anything's possible it's a small sample size were you surprised last season by him mhm yeah yeah especially just just cuz like what he had done I mean we'll see we'll see they paid him a lot also when you pay a guy like that a lot and again we don't have to Deep dive on it lot of pressure but your salary cap is only so big you have 200 mil give or a little bit more per year you can spend on guys he's a fourth ofe cap yeah how can you build a team how are you going build a team with like well all their receivers are first and second year players and they're really good yeah but still just I'm just talking about longevity like they kind of have to hit the lottery in a perect sweet spot to win a Super Bowl same the Char I was going to say the 49ers like they don't have to pay their quarterback right now but one day they will I mean he'll be the highest paid he's going to sign a crazy contract just for the game but like the Chargers are a great example too like they're Herbert's making bank yeah he's like 18% of their salary cap or yeah so again there's a lot of teams like that uh and that's why the Chiefs are so good because Mahomes isn't he's not taking up a fourth year cap momes Mahomes is a team player he's got a favorable deal he cares yeah yeah we can talk about it for days anyways Bachelorette Recap the bachette are you guys are watching this season yes uh were you guys shocked by Devon going home Jonathan no I was like I was like are you shocked by Jonathan going home like wa I think de's going to win I like I'm shocked right now no I am too he watch the same thing I was like no I was convinced that Deon was going to go home no I know I think we all were was it the last minute like when he went in uh when no I think she you here's the no one's changing that's the thing was at that stage in the game the lead knows what they're doing you know what I'm saying they know the I Love You More was crazy Onin she has to pick them no she said I love you more but okay they do this every single Bachelor season where they're like oh there's no ending like this before that what does that mean they're trying to they try gas set up every single year I'm just like okay and then it and you're like didn't that happen I'm also like Colton hopping the fence like that wasn't that as intense they built that up like from episode one they did they're like Bachelor does parkour and you're like what the [ __ ] makes you crazy jump in the fence was kind of that kind of lived up to the moment like I'm sure there was a button near that he didn't need to hop the fence oh no it was defin there was like clearly a gate performative yeah the gates open he's like excuse me hold on can jum he's like I'll go around they're like do that again jump over but it was kind of crazy yeah the bachelor it is fascinating to me and bachelorette cuz like you're right at the end they definitely know I mean I don't know how it works but there's got to be a piece where it's like hey we got to we have two more episodes like even though you know who you're going to choose but I mean last season Daisy was like I know you don't love me as much as you love Kelsey Daisy was a real one that was different that was unique but Devin I think wanted like that was his intention of saying but in reality he was just just like you haven't said this to me and so like therefore mhm and she was like oh my god you dumb idiot like no I love you yeah you idiot fuing [ __ ] you piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] I love it's like no and then the the the I the I Love You More she has to pick Deon she has to I mean at the Rose ceremony Devon was looking real smug and real kind of like he was [ __ ] in the back as he should like you don't well he's like you're not going to tell me you love me more and then send me home that's we've seen crazy I mean it's not like impossible that was a different level of affirmation from Jen that was like it very much felt like when you are when you are't in her shoes and you know who you want to pick you are in fact very worried that person you want is going to leave cuz you're like holy [ __ ] cuz I mean it is the engagement is real I mean you know this is super juicy to me I feelings are real well I okay I mean you know it's it's as real as you want to make it but like yeah it's a real thing and yeah some couples get re-engaged once they get to know know each other and but like when you're in it you're like I'm going to be in a real relationship with this person they're going to like you know I don't want to be with her or him whoever they who your second choice is you can't tell me that you don't kind of get the ick sometimes from people on the like if you're The Bachelorette I definitely feel like I would look at the room and be like please do not kiss me please do not k that happen being the lead is about survival it is surviving uh so the show should be on Animal Planet all you want to do is send everyone home as soon as you can I feel like it's extra hard wa for the green light so when they say the the rose ceremony is really hard you're like no I actually been looking forward to part of I feel like it's harder for you don't get a rose you don't get a rose I feel like it's harder for the men because if they were to say like oh no I don't think we should kiss like then you're like embarrassing this woman and it's like you would like the bachelor would look bad but then when a woman does it it's like Empower you know it's like it's like girl power hell [ __ ] yeah because we're always like held to this ask for consent yes literally please um and so I think when and that literally literally please we're all we're begging is ask for consent um and I feel like with Sam in that when she he was like I think she's like you know that was that was hard to watch and I don't usually I love a good cringey moment it was hard the whole him confessing his love to that it was like ah how did you feel about Sam M when he was like she's like well how do you think I'm selfless and he's like I love you yeah I'm like I don't think he actually has listened to a word she said no God no I think he's just like I want to make it to the fantasy sweets no absolutely and I feel like she they have a lot they had a lot of sexual chemistry you could tell for sure but like were you listening to the words coming out of her mouth God no God no and I do feel like she I I fear Jen cooked and ate him alive at the Mel she did but she definitely prepared for that speech and as what I yeah as what I she really crushed like don't you think rewatching the show it kind of fuels you up ooh yeah right like all the seeing all the [ __ ] that you didn't actually see so you have all the feelings already and then you're like wait watching yeah watching the show well also because like as the audience judges leads for their choices even if it's not really their choices right you know and so I think with Jen I think she did really like him and I think I think Sam and made her look like a fool yeah uh and I think she felt foolish at times and I think the audience was very critical of you know her bringing him along so this was an opportunity for her to like tell the story straight to to put that to bed so to speak and and stand up for herself in in a way that she probably wishes she would have done in real time with Sam also do y' feel like obviously we heard Sam say keep the main thing the main thing n million times a strong phrase just keep the main thing the main thing no and while he was keeping the main thing the main thing all he said at AFR was truthfully truthfully that's all he said truthfully well truthfully and it's like do you like you're a [ __ ] liar but yeah like why are we like like shouldn't everything you say just be truth we all just argum can I be honest for the first time in our conversation today no can I be honest you were going to do that now I was like I'm like lean in I'm ready no I'm going to finally be honest it was comping the truthfully is great he's he's a phrase he's like your phrase bro like he's one of the Bro Bros like you know just like bro like truthfully like the way I feel is like he's one of those and that's why like what did he say you bother me you bother me did you ever see the choice uhuh it's like an a Nicholas Sparks Niche Nicholas movie and the guy the main character in The Choice tells the girl like you bother me and was like this whole thing and then when heed bother me for the rest of your life like I want you to B and it was like really it was like oh my God I I want someone to tell me I bother then he read that and it was like Sam I think it's kind of a red flag kind of a red flag it's like it's giving like oh I just got engaged to this person and I'm going to give you a four paragraph all about our ups and downs and we've been through so much I'm like tell me you've had problems without telling me we have problems literally are you upset that Jonathan went home I am I'm just upset because Jen really threw us for a loop she's great at her job as being The Bachelorette because she came on this show she was like we were like what does a life look like with this person what does and with Jonathan she said kids it was the only person she said kids with and so we were like oh my God Jonathan uh him it's literally Jonathan and if you're he's no I feel like she's like listen I had to throw America for a loop they all thought Jonathan was winning well now we all know who now is winning their ability to stay together will be Devon's emotional maturity to not let [ __ ] like that bother him yeah and I that [ __ ] like that happens all that's what I was going to say like watching it back I feel like if I'm a contestant and I quote unquote win which is really just being in relationship yeah CRA are you really winning um I mean like but I feel like at the end yeah the rewatching it back and seeing her say something to him that she didn't say to you that would bother the [ __ ] out of me yeah that would hurt but you got to let it go I don't know I would you don't have to uh and it's definitely your get out of jail free card if you don't want to you can definitely there's plenty of of opportunities to pick a fight do the people watch together uh some do some don't watch at all say like watch parties say I wouldn't be able to watch at all no I would I mean I I haven't watched any of like I have not sat down and watched any of Nick seasons I don't know if like I don't need to I don't think do you think your daughters want to watch oh I'm sure and she's gonna be like Dad why are you kissing this girl that's not Mommy and I'm going to be like yeah why are you kissing that girl that's not mommy like that's funny I didn't see that episode that's so crazy actually wait what is he doing cat stickler just posted about rewatching uh his season being like that was weird yeah she's like why are you kissing yeah I hurting my own feeling Sarah Sarah's devastated that Jonathan went home oh I'm absolutely livid yeah mad I don't understand why you're mad why you don't understand I don't I don't get um I just it's like my sports team losing for for the Packers just lost a super ex like that was my winner he's no longer winning and they asked him to be on bat in Paradise so I'm not even going to probably get like an a oh I made a mistake so now I want to choose this person so now I'm just like okay my guy is out and I'm not a fan of the other two so there the situation that was that was crazy that they're like hey in seven years we're going to do a Bachelor in Paradise and you are first one that's invited are you coming and it's like he's now have to like turn down every possible Rel almost certainly put him on the spot right then and there and just asked him oh for sure almost certainly but like that's a long time until they film that what he's just like not like what if he falls in love with someone then he's like sorry I promised on National Television I would go to this when you say you want him to win is because you think Jonathan and and Jen would be a good couple or you just want him to win uh both what do you like what's the thing that I think that they were the most compatible uh they both do lacrosse they both like where he lives was was a nice place for her to go that I think that they were on the same page but you get I he yeah he's he's just a solid guy's a solid dude and maybe not meant for reality TV I'm just like cuz no I mean he seems stable he he didn't cry cuz she didn't say I love you he ALS she also didn't have a meltdown being like I don't know if I'm ready for this he was just an even kill guy like Grant aliser new bachor seems like a great guy we had an opportunity to interview him if you haven't listened to it yet go check it out he really seems like a great guy he really seems like a man I love his emotional intelligence he really like for all the things that we've been frustrated at bachs in the past like Grant seems to have that but also so does Jonathan yeah and Jonathan did go farther and Jonathan did we're more invested in Jonathan's love story so I am curious as to why like Jonathan wasn't even really considered for that role also by the way like our our our night one guy oh my God Brett carried Carri he's a stud guys I love him why is he not the bachelor I honestly when they when they called me up and said hey we're not going to tell you the new Bachelor is but we're announcing him next week and and and would you like to interview him and we were again very gracious for the opportunity we love Grant thank you Bachelor I honestly thought it was Brett I was convinced it was Brett I was like here they are we're we're in this Jason Kelsey era of like loving the you're super right I didn't even think about Jason missed the mark on and then when we interviewed him here on the show via Zoom he was like very charming and funny and he Charming confident kind of carried jokes and it was like wow like I could really see them like why' they cast this guy if they just were to send him home night one it doesn't even matter if Jen doesn't like him fine Jen doesn't like him there's 30 other guys that Jen doesn't like you know uh you can you can carry Karin final four nothing against kin there was no remote if I if if it was about just love she goes home night one but she had a nanny and I had two women that I was like it's either it's it's one of them yeah so who gives a [ __ ] who else goes to Hometown some TV do you think that did you have a talk with the producers like hey I want to make better TV or are they like hey we suggest you're not allowed to answer that no I can answer that oh I don't know G make great TV and I want I wanted to find I was very serious about like um I was 35 at the time they asked me I was very like I really was like I only cared about who they cast it wanted to work I was like this would be great if they I could actually meet someone I thought youant you wanted to work but I also knew how they cast They Don't cast for me they're casting for a TV show so I was hoping that I could meet someone and then make good TV and like go to a bar night and any night no I'm saying any night you go to a bar and like have a drink it's full of people you don't leave you know it's like just because there's 40 guys doesn't mean like you're destined to find your partner you know it's just like they're casting 30 people you know it's just like so once I decided who I was into which is it's always less than four for every person then you don't really give a [ __ ] after that so why why Brett wasn't brought along I he a great did she talk to him night one he did the splits I feel like I didn't even like I didn't even really like remember Brett Aon and then he just came back in my mind from the reunion but that was so he's had very little moments and every time he's had a moment he's made a mark all social media has loved him like he clearly has like the It Factor he has some kind of star quality that I don't know what the people making the show aren't seeing I feel like that's a great way to get people back interested in like Bachelor Bachelor if you if it is really falling off which I don't know that it is I like people always come back but I feel like he would have been a great addition I think your turn no I was saying I was going to say uh yeah I'm like just like acting you're not here so Brett though I was telling her on the way up here like guys like myself you know like that are bigger like you have to have a little bit of Swag like you have you're not relying on just being like the like sixpack like I'm saying you got have a little game like but you have seriously though like he's that's why he's smooth he's got game like he's got personality they have never and correct me if I'm wrong my bachelor uh veterans over here I feel like there's never been someone funny no I mean like Brett like the way he's just able to like ever I believe his name was Bob and he was also like not your washboard stomach type of guy and he was funny and charming and honestly that's like I think that's the last time are you a bachelor Bachelor at history buff like but I've been in the franchise long enough to like have met some of these people and know I didn't start watching it until I was on it yeah yeah I'm always fascinated cuz she was asking about talking with the producers and like is it kind of curated it has to be curated I feel like there it's uh it's stag not scripted so the environment is staged the situations are controlled but the conversations are are very real did you ever Jen's ex coming did you yeah that was I'm like what are we doing there's no way this guy just was like oh I want to go whatever yeah he's like he got a hold of one of our producers I'm like how do you get a hold of a prod okay where's the number yeah like how did you know their name I'm like there's a lot of guys that would have been done that if they could um but like did they ever have scenes where they were like redo that was there any sure yeah so I mean you watch the bloopers and I said this to Nick last night I'm like they need to just like keep in the bloopers sometimes because that would make it funny and genuine but like yeah watching the bloopers you see just how many times they redo stuff it's too formulaic for their own good I mean sometimes like if uh for example uh if you're in the water having a moment and let's say the first time you say I love you to that person is in the water off mic because that's one of the few places have mic you might have to redo that but they really do try to make it as authentic and as real as possible like and I will I do think the bachelor from my knowledge is one of the most authentic reality TV dating shows interesting compared to others out there it is a TV that makes me like it more yeah for sure because I there's definitely just a sentiment that like this is not real or like how can people fall in love that fast but I feel like kind of what you were saying you're so in it oh the feelings are real that yeah that I feel like you just kind of are like I'm here I'm in it and it just you become so a part of it that it is we started dating two weeks after we met so like feelings have to be I mean not these people aren't just getting AAG to get engag you have nothing to focus on yeah except that's the weird part for except your feelings and that person in front of you and then you could get a bunch of like athletes who are love to compete and then you put one person for them to compete against it's a pretty simp I feel like I feel like like Jen is having a very authentic like organic experience but the guys could be like I just want to win like I really just want to like win and not necessarily think oh I want to be with her for the rest of my life for sure also we can we were discussing this before we recorded I would I could say that winning the bachette is is is a terrible experience for whoever wins wins unless it's not I hate that but I hate that word because I'm like well they definitely don't if they fall in love great yes but they definitely don't win cuz think about it like who are the who are the winners from previous Seasons like you don't if you if you get engaged to the bachette she's the star and if that relationship doesn't work out people are here to prop up their bachette you are yesterday's [ __ ] news like you are if you had any hopes of a public life outside of the bachelor world you don't want to win The Bachelorette wait that is kind of true like okay we have charity and dotton still together who by the way why love charity and dotton but why did they bring them last year's couple here's a free trip to Greece what you're like wait where did this come from why does Jen get a free trip to Greece they're just doing their taxes and like we need a write off somewhere yeah we need that was so bizarre yeah well I mean what what like successful relationships are there I think my favorite is Jojo and uh Jordan yeah but they're also in a relationship and they're married and like yeah sure he won cuz he's in love but I'm and and his brother's also J Aaron Rogers so he got a bit of a leg up cuz now he's doing your guy I mean you're a fan of Aaron of the I feel like the whole gang the yeah but you know lineage I'm I'm I'm a fan of the I've moved on from Aaron because the Packers moov on from Aaron and I'm a Packer fan I'm not an a I'm I'm oh wow I'm a team guy I'm a guy guy just interesting yeah when you're when you're on the Packers bye yeah who was Michelle with exactly Nate Nate yeah yeah and he got that didn't go well for him in the breakup Michelle with Rachel Lindsay and Brian yeah yeah in the shadows I'm saying they're all in the shadows o and Eric my God their lives got worse after they won yeah now I'm like going through it like winning the bashet that's so it's like the Madden Curse you're on the cover it is a curse you you really better be doing it for love I'm a fan of uh Joey and Kelsey though they're great yes but also different a little different yeah because it's not yeah it's Bachelor Bachelor but still yeah I'm just thinking of couples in general that is so crazy though that you say that because that is true it is like every man who has ended up with a bachelorette and is now no longer yeah well you're also I feel like a lot of women get behind The Bachelorette and as the guy like you said you're the Shadow and if you try to like be the Tik Tok star and you're like I'm famous too it's like I think you're almost better off not winning as a guy like think if I would I was a two-time runner up two time runner up that's which just a whole another thing but had I won I wouldn't be sitting with you here today I would have my daughter I wouldn't have met Natalie I wouldn't have been The Bachelor I wouldn't have the show yeah so you actually won Round of Applause you won I did but I would not have won if I won yes yeah that is crazy yeah two-time runner up is crazy yeah what's Jed up to exactly is he writing music Still he's did no his sister married Hannah's brother right Jed's sister J's sister married Hannah's brother oh no no no Jed's Jed's exgirlfriend oh married Hannah Brown's brother whoa and she still doesn't follow her whoa I don't think whatever is that still him is that does he still know that's EAS it was a thing we followed on the show for a while because I checking Hannah Brown like it matters I was very Brown in that situation I really felt no she's great if your ex if your ex on the show no wait she got engaged her whole experience was ruined because of Jed there girl you know popped in and was like I was D is it the girl that Mike dropped that is now with Hannah's yeah and then she like then she like slid into her brother's DM and then he married her and like this this woman literally infiltrated her whole life oh and she has nothing and and capitalized on all her Fame and yeah that's kind of I wonder if like I always wonder what's happening behind the scenes because obviously like we don't show everything in social media so I always wonder like what conversations have been had has she like taken accountability like what's the drama but I don't think Hannah still it like it doesn't follow her wait who the not following like actually matters time that doesn't matter it's 2024 like you'll follow somebody that you know meet him or whatever follow each other that's funny my sister I was going to say my sister canceled her wedding and I'm pretty sure one of the first things I did was block him yeah about who her ex yes yeah so I'm saying like if you follow my following closely yeah I don't know if she's maybe she is fing her no that is crazy is there any confirmation what are Game Time these whiteboards that are sitting in front of us oh we have a game for a couple oh wow oh my gosh fun do we not get whiteboards we're not playing it's a it's it's like the newly wed Game reality TV style oh oh Hannah does not follow Lily update she does not W she just have a ticker every week so they got engaged she went to the wedding there was probably a shower or two in there a Bach red party they're still married so there's at least been some success wait did she go to The Bachelorette and did she go to the bridal show she definitely was at the wedding I saw wedding photos you have to do that as a sister like you have to be there for your family or else your parents might be like okay yeah yeah but she was like no I'm still not following her that is crazy like it's now sinking in again that's crazy they don't follow each other should we grab the Whiteboard should we use the Whiteboard since they're here all right give us the game all right newly W's game question number one who is more likely to complain about their edit if you guys were reality TV characters it's the classic newly Woods game ask someone a question about their relationship and see if their partner can guess what they answered but with the reality TV twist who is more likely to complain about their edit between the two of you and I just write that down right so I'm guessing what Al would put and yeah you're guessing what she or or yeah yes you're guessing what you think she wrote down I'm I'm I'm not guessing what I think I'm guessing you're gu what you wrote yeah are we answering are we going question freestyling do we want the girls to turn over their no the guys have to give their guess I think n picked me wrong yeah get them right wrong because you have been on this [ __ ] so you like you know how this works I don't I'd be like whoa what the [ __ ] that's not what I meant that's not what I said and I would get pissed you'd accept your fate you would accept your fate you'd be like hey just like come on she's part of the show it's like reality I don't want to win anyways okay back to if uh I think you probably Sav me Isaac come on we're giving narciss record a video ourselves no what I feel like is this I feel like this is us projecting the fact that our wives tease us all the time and criticize us yeah and it was like who would complain the most I guess I would cuz I always [ __ ] complain I think that's where that came from I thought you were going to go a different different Direction with that and be like well our wives are perfect they too are for sure it's a mixture duh weird we're so perfect but we are used to taking the heat yeah we take some shots take the heat yeah it's okay well we've done enough we've carried babies we've carried the team we've literally we catch tra that's all I'm saying absolutely how long was your delivery section planned damn she was breach right out the belly button honestly I loved my c-section I know oh my God okay yeah I noral normaliz C-sections I didn't have one but but I love you had a great experience but I yeah I'm like now that I have a scar I'm like might as well do it again like round two but I'm like but kind of like want the natural experience I feel like don't maybe this has changed and maybe I think they just like prefer you to continue to see- section no oh it's called a v-back it's well technically it's like preferred but you can do a prer because you can like blow up yeah they're like open yeah but my doctor said he sewed me up a certain he like made sure to take care of my incision he gave you an exra Stitch hell yeah hell yeah extra stitch in my abdomen yes hell yeah okay next question okay question number two who would give the better confessionals did you give good confessionals I wish I feel like you were calculated I feel like you were smart about it a lot of people say that I I was uh I was yeah and I don't say this with pride but I was uh I was I was in it yeah you know I was emotionally invested in the experience uh and so you weren't thinking how this is going to be taken to the audience not like I mean certainly it crosses your mind from time to time but it was a little too late yeah you're like so what are you going to what do you think I'm going to say Natalie I had that at first but I did change the eraser marks okay I changed it because you are you are very no we get I've done reality TV before no no no well yeah that but also like you're very you can be like very emotional and like you're not afraid to be vulnerable and I think I would like try to come off as like some tough [ __ ] and like where you would just like lean into your feelings and you would like yeah and I wouldn't I think he would be a little um stiff at first a little guarded yeah a little guarded uh but you were given the opportunity be like a stupid [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] like who we're back here okay listen grocery store Joe night one would you know clammed up was terrible turned out turned out to be one of its biggest stars so like you might have been a slow burn but I think your potential is great would shine through shine through yeah he's he's going to be casting soon I think you would for sure Isaac come on oh my god oh that's true yeah a couple sodas I might be yeah I might be out of stuff that like he usually has a filter for yeah so not saying that like you're like a messy drunk well you don't really get drunk I like drama though that's the issue so I'd be would be in there stirring the pot and be like yeah I think I'm going to go and like send this be like episode two and I'd be like it's my time and I'd be like there's somebody in this house that's not serious about I didn't leave ISAC does love the drama so I think you would give better confessionals who is more dramatic between the two of you can we just agree that we're equal absolutely not I am dramatic dramatic I'm dramatic for sure yeah I love I'm dramatic both in like loving the drama like I love a good juicy combo but then I also will like have a quick meltdown like interesting Nick I feel like and I so okay so if you go out with the guys yeah and like there's some like tea maybe with the wives or the girlfriends or friends of whatever like do you come home and you're like Allison listen to this [ __ ] oh yeah yeah you tell me I'm telling we're going to but like you don't leave out of detail nothing no he'll text me like midday and be like I have some juicy info like remind me when I get home F like no it's fun but I'm like I don't like I have to wait hours no yeah that's that's I'm like call me Nick I'm like wait so what happened he's like he said it was nice and I'm like you're like that's not what he said no but what else what else and then was he happy when he said it yeah what was what was his body language like no Isaac gives all all and then he gives his like own opinion before asking it's like I love it no listen I'm dramatic but only when it's about me like dramatic telling your own stories or like dramatic like situation happens and you're like oh my God this is trash drama the life is ending I've gotten really good in my in my uh years of aging and in maturity to recognize uh that I need to not be dramatic and that small things don't matter so I'm really good at coming across is not dramatic but my instinct is to lose my [ __ ] internally also I think having a a child has changed that a little bit none of this really I think I think you're still a little dram IC yeah for sure it's always in you I mean I feel like having a child brought it a little bit more out you're like I didn't get any sleep last night I'm like you literally slept seven hours you're okay I can't remember the last seven hour night two nights ago definitely wasn't last night but last night was she up last night we went to this is this is where the Dr sleep at 1: a.m. so that's that Al refuses to go to sleep early so we always it's brutal I'm tired right now did she make you watch TV for no reason yeah she's like I just want to watch Grace's Anatomy before bed and I'm like like put it on no Nick is like [ __ ] no turn that [ __ ] off I don't want to be a part of it I put it on I had to beg I'm like so what about the show and you're like well no I thought we were going to bed and I'm like but I was just thinking like it could be fun if we like put on a show and you're like no I'm already asleep and I'm like no you're talking to me asleep full combo no like your eyes are open what you're talking about he's going to sleep talking actually I'm trying try I make Isaac stay up with me well because I'm I'm pumping still so if I'm pumping I feel like he has to give me his sleep because he can't give me his boobs cuz that doesn't do anything honestly respect so yeah if I have to do it you have to I was going to say watch that's weird but you have to you have to be there no I know that's how whenever I would like wake up in the middle of the night in nurse River I would wake him up first because I'd be like we're both going to be aw we're going to we're together yeah like and then you're going to burp her yeah and then you're going to get her to fall back to S it's the assembly line it's like I'm going to give you the baby you're going to change the diaper bring her back to me I'm going to feed her and then you're going to put her back what a whirlwind done enough we've done enough yeah yeah yeah Isaac yeah no you guys absolutely have I was just zoned out just lack of sleep I'm sorry oh my God the dramatic what's our next question question number three what show would your partner most want to do reality show reality TV show that you M that I would want to do so this is to be clear is this on any network what show would your partner most want to do yes let's just yeah just go anything let's see if we can wait I think we need some gu I no would I him you answered already yeah I don't even have an answer yet yeah you ready you like this is well thought out this is marinated for a about so what show would I be on yes would I want to be on you want to okay I'm INE for Natalie's answer cuz you're excited I'm excited for I mean Hard Knock is reality TV get an NFL teamas basic okay what would I actually want to be on I'm a professional athlete if I yeah I mean technically not but uh no no technically you are uh they're still paying our insurance I think I'd be a good Bachelor I think I'd be good I'm g go to The Bachelor no so the bachelor uh I don't think well I don't think I'd be good on The Bachelorette well then you don't get to be the bachelor works yeah yeah yeah that's true you're like this are starting point I said if single Bachelor in Paradise really because I think you would enjoy everybody hooking up with everybody like an hour after everybody and you would find that juicy but I don't think you would last long cuz I think you would leave and be like you know what this isn't for me I'd be like this dude is tripping that'd be me and the confession this dude is it's weird to Envision your husband SL a person you've been together with 10 for 10 years like on a dating show I'm like I don't know you in that capacity you could have done like Naked and Afraid I've never seen that oh my God it would be him like in the woods trying to survive while naked with another person not another person yeah with another woman I would also say thank God it's not love Island cuz then it's like oh you just want to date a bunch of people yeah then it gets yeah yeah you want to date a bunch of people see I'm I'm I'm actually not thinking the same way Allison is I kind of wish that I was but I was not I'm curious you were excited oh yeah no I'm interest L Island oh blind Love is Blind oh that would have been a good one watching it last night and ni every time they propos every I can't every time it's what I love the so much about love is blind cuz every time someone proposes in the [ __ ] pods it [ __ ] gives me the heebie jebi you're proposing to a [ __ ] wall it's and then when they get down out they're like are you on one knee IED up here i' be like yeah it is the most [ __ ] cringe moment never it'll never not be cringy I'm sorry but like I don't I couldn't do love is blind look oh I no looks matter a lot to oh my God yeah I I'm sorry and like on that show is if you're like if you're like what size t-shirts do you wear you're like the biggest [ __ ] in the [ __ ] world yeah who's the guy with Deep D or what was her name oh yeah a Shane Shake Shane oh Shake he's like yeah like can I carry you at a festival no that was wait what wait too like why like there's a lot of things that like yeah better more than well certainly as as much like where's your nose in relation to your eyes eyes like no the girl who who said she looks like Megan Fox I actually think she does I met her and she does right in person you don't have to be identical to look like somebody in person you're like every guy has told you this yes yeah that was yeah they had some interesting scenes but I I couldn't do it I would I would be terrified I could not I would I would oh no I know I would I would be the villain after cuz I would be like sorry I I'm not interested in you every time we I do feel bad because every time we do watch these shows I'm like okay and Nick right now if you saw me come out of the when the doors opened what would you do let quick let's react okay and what would your speech be if you had if you had to do this what would it be quick tell me I feel like it has to be people who actually don't care like I care way too much about height would you guys fall in love in the in the pods for sure yeah I think we for sure would because I think that's why we started dating the first place we like could talk for hours yeah no I think we would we would fall asleep on the phone now y sleep at all yeah now come along way and how things have changed final question oh what is your partner's dream one-on-one datee like with who or where like when you're on like Bachelor and whatnot you know how you get your one-on-one dates like and it's on top of a mountain are you guys going to a restaurant are you guys don't having a fantasy suite I don't know but but like what would be your ideal oneon-one oh my God what would be her ideal one-on-one oh mine no what would mine be you're guessing mine yeah I just kind of want to hear the answer what are you writing there get it right this is my dream date yeah do you have yours do you have yours cooked up I don't she has it cooked up oh are we boring yeah like we'd like to just like we honestly want to just sleep for like 8 hours like that could be it is it my dream date on a reality TV show or today well today if you were on a reality TV show it could be big it could be small go ahead Al what do you sorry for this show I'll guess I feel like we'd be doing like cooking we do like a cooking class A I said includes food culture and good views oh my gosh cooking with a view I knew it I knew it involved food that's for sure that's it's big boy season we just went on a food tour not too long ago and it was it honestly now I want to go to food tour wherever I go in California no in Hawaii yeah town uh I would say walking the streets of New York drinking endless amounts of cappuccinos and shopping I said super specific by the way I said no talking no touching on Packer Twitter while watching a Packer game while hi that's the happy place I'm like is that his happy place you didn't ask me a happy place dream date no abolutely zooted watching football Zed not touching not talking I feel like that kind of I feel like that describes mine because I don't like talking or like yeah she's like I don't I don't even look at him really that's I yeah that's Nick is Al yeah I'm like just kind of chill what what's your sign I'm a Libra I talk all day who who do we know it's a Libra is that badge what month is that no you September he's a Leo September into October oh my brother's a Libra if it's to late October he's a Scorpio that makes sense he's October 2nd Y how what is his like personal I he gives similar talk a lot I feel like they have Vibes if his he's watching this what's your sign I'm a Taurus yep what are you Virgo I don't know any viros either isn't it Virgo right wait my birthday's on Saturday we're coming happy early birth yeah happy birthday thanks what did uh you give uh your wife for her birthday present oh that's great [ __ ] question oh boy I I mean do we want a deep dive I planned a whole station at the Montage in lagona beach I was three weeks postpartum going to a hotel it was four and a half weeks postpartum you didn't appreciate it I had I had the crib set up I had everything set up though for baby and we're 20 minutes from it I appreciate the energy you put into it it was a Miss shot it was a Miss shot it was a Miss shot oh yeah I do well well I don't know what it's like to be 3 four weeks postpartum from a C-section but I also had just gotten rehospitalized oh wow wellit you comments you were you were Aiming High for sure yeah yeah Nick um Nick has no plans so he's been asking all of our guests what uh they've received so he take notes what's your love language everything all of them wow all of them yeah but I think mainly physical touch okay for sure I do love gifts and quality time and I feel like feel surprising which I mean it's not a surprise if I recommend this and he does it but I feel like surprising with like a massage experience station champagne have you ever heard of Cam's Ranch no a beautiful place it's where I'm going with my boyfriend for my birthday yeah oh they're going there her birthday is her birthday is the day after mine wow so oh why go to Vegas Vegas has good food they have good hotels wanted to try the food tour in Vegas we need to do the food tour in Vegas yeah that sounds nice we will we will with VOR yeah yeah like we actually are doing that well you have some planning to do yeah you guys get the [ __ ] out of here yeah you're like I need to just be playing I'm go to Vegas oh like take a helicopter to Vegas oh can you yeah I guess you could do yeah that that seems stressful why you get motion sickness from helicopters do you Absol yeah I feel like when we went to Catalina I was like this is if you on The Bachelor oh yeah classic Bachelor have you ever been on a helicopter no that could have been you want to go is that like you're you don't have anything else planned so that's what we're doing or a Catalina day day we're goingon to have a nice day we're gonna have a nice day guys full day what about the night day it's going to be fine one day one day my first birthday after having a baby ooh yeah Earth Day weekend well it is it does fall on a Saturday did you get her a push present yes he got me an incredibly expensive Louis Vuitton bag that I was like I just can't I can't keep this I we have return oh you're like I just this is did return it I did return it and then got um a little cosmetic pouch oh it was like much a much practical yeah more practical I saved him so much money that you're welcome no that pay it for my birthday time to double down for the birthday time to double down time to double down for the birthday yeah so you have extra money it falls on Labor Day weekend so we have oh so you can travel wow or we could just have the whole weekend be like about the birthday I'm not going to lie if you haven't booked a flight like it's well real quick have y'all traveled with your daughter oh my God millions and millions and millions of yeah we have two it's a totally different challenge yeah no yeah first class like champagne is a little different when you have a baby doesn't exist yeah yeah you're like can I can I just please get a warm a thing of um water please I have to warm this bottle up quick like hurry one time the uh flight attendant uh took the water and then put airplane water inside of the breast milk no and he brought it back and it was like really the bottle was really full and I was like I'm what did you do and he's like we it I can't imag you you're EX that would be like I'm like no it's ruin I would be like lay in the [ __ ] PL please you have to like my titties only have so much to give like we got to do something I put on the intercom how does anyone have breast milk currently in their body the wor part it was like this like 50-year-old dude so you already knew like I'm not even going to bother explaining to him the crisis that just happened you know yeah bro you don't know what you just did I don't even let Isaac handle it anymore just from like past experiences of accidentally dropping it well I'm like my thing is she's exus exclusively pumping there's so much margin for air like yeah putting the pumps together sterilizing the pumps bottles keeping the bottle or keeping the milk cold Allie's like who cares no excus there's so much that can go wrong it's tough It's only good in the fridge for 24 hours three days oh my god really yeah yeah it's good out for four hours just room temperature and then good in the fridge for 4 days and then in the freezer for 6 months I feel like we were my form and we were like we've got to get rid of this milk it's been in there for 23 hours oh no it's not like we had milk to spare anyway we didn't I my body was like I'm only going to produce enough just enough just enough for you to get by you're like just enough thanks I became obsessed with like increasing my milk supply oh I was also but it just didn't work for me I was like I'll eat all these cookies I'm going to drink the tea I'm going to and it was like oh that's so cute it's yeah I don't know how you guys do it Ali pump every 3 hours I'm like this scene L power pumping on the way here miserable it is yeah I'm kind of ready to be done yeah our next child is straight to the boob yeah no pumping included that's so I mean I feel like I prioritized pumping over nursing because I would had this like vision of I need to be in control like I need to know exactly how many ounces she's getting and then I felt like my body got used to the pump and not her and so it just like stopped me that's like where I kind of messed up in the beginning is I didn't know you needed certain hospital grade pump because if you do like a portable pump all the time it doesn't Su enough didn't know that so again so much room for error so much room for error so like why manual no there's not everyone's truth is different and you don't there's just like you never know what to believe and it's like I thought I was doing like what I was supposed to do and really it was like hurting me you know what you did what your best thank you that's all that was cute wait hold I say that to you all the time and you'll be I don't get a a well no because I'm annoyed I Ally you're doing your best I love you so much go oh my best isn't [ __ ] good enough no literally that is so funny uh thanks so much for coming guys you're so much fun absolutely where can the uh the people Outro find you on the streets um online um they can find us Alison cooch on all socials podcast Sunday sports club podcast on wherever you get your podcast at Isaac Rochelle if you find Ally you'll find me go well I Look to I look forward to seeing you on the football field yeah hope it's with the Green Bay Packers that would be great if not I'll still root for you like Green would you say trying to move no I wouldn't say no but I definitely not say no I would definitely not we got tons of options I'm just going to manifest maybe a little bit of a different route I just don't like winter jackets but I'll do it from a Michigan com from some from Michigan yeah what are we talking about I'm fake it's okay uh thanks for listening guys uh Happy 800 thanks for listening whether you've been from the beginning or you just tuned in we appreciate you we'll be back on Monday we'll be back on Monday for ask Nick Tuesday we'll be getting into the whole like are you guys did you watch the Scott Peterson yes yes we it's juicy we'll talk about it on Monday do you think he did it Ian what but why wouldn't the judge approve for them to look at the DNA in the uh in the van the blood the human blood that's on a mattress a mile away from our house why did the judge deny that weird there's a there that's weird did you watch a peacock doc there's a Netflix doc and there's a peacock doc the I've listened to that why did he sell her car weird I if you're cheating and your wife dies you're guilty sorry I I'm not like the rest of I'm not like our court system you are guilty until proven innocent in my head wow that's okay well we be talking Jes imagine being married we got the bachette finale as well what else are we talking about oh so love is blind UK okay all lot next Tuesday on reality recap so uh have a happy labor day everybody uh and uh wish happy birthday a she's like planned my [ __ ] weekend for my birthday bye [Music] hey guys if you love what you listen to make sure you hit that subscribe button below thanks for listening we'll see you next time