Alicia Vikander | Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

welcome welcome welcome to armchair expert I'm Dak Shepard and although she is not currently present she is present in the interview worry not miniature Mouse is here quick thank you to everybody who came to the Salt Lake City show we had the most excellent time it was so wonderful to be out in the world and seeing arm cherries face to face my goodness what a wonderful time it was today we have Alicia viander Alicia viander is an academy award-winning actor I fell in love with her in exmachina but of course she's had an enormous career Tomb Raider the Danish girl Jason Bourne the Green Knight and now she has a new movie out called Blue Bayou I hope everyone checks out Blue Bayou I also hope everyone enjoys Alicia viander [Music] hello hi I'm so excited to meet you I didn't think this would ever happen in any way I was watching exmachina M and falling deeply in love with you as I think every single person did which is its own interesting psychological thing we should explore and I thought in my head I actually had the thought well well I'll never bump into her she's not going to be in like a cheap TV comedy we're never going to be like castmates or anything and I'm pretty much done going to any parties so that I won't meet that person but I would love to and yet here we are I'm so happy and you know you guys have done so great and I just I feel honored now to be one of the guests on your show oh my God that's hard to believe that's what you've done in just a few years so you know straight away from the cheap TV comedies that's like what I long to do now really really I just want to make like light fun stuff I'll tell you it is really really fun to do because in general everyone's in a good mood you're trying to make some funny stuff happen really fun really fun around set but I will see this you can leave work having done a comedy and going like hm I don't know if we got that and there's no way to fix it like there's no way to push in slowly and add the perfect song that'll Maybe cover up and give some emotion like it's either funny or it's not so there that is the only part that I think is some pressure some pressure that maybe is unexpected I guess you are right I can still have that feeling I mean with drama I guess you're right that it's easier to kind of go in and make it something new in the edit well have you had the experience I have when doing the drama War I left work and I was like H I didn't really do the thing I was hoping to do that's a bummer and embarrassing and then I see it and and I go o that song made the whole thing work thank God they put that song in there yeah but one thing that I think is pretty like I mean it's not completely wrong when you have that feeling too but have you been onet when it happened today actually when we were shooting and the co-actor he was like did you feel that and I was like yeah I felt it and the thing is when you get that take it's like a thing that just happens and it hangs in the air and the amazing thing is that the boom guy knows it and the guys behind the monoton knows it and it's like no one said anything but everyone knew okay that was it and it's amazing and you don't know what it is but in unison everyone knows it was a bit of magic there this will be a fun thing of actors complaining but I do think it's Unique to this job which is let's say that moment you're talking about can happen in a wide so if you're not incredibly familiar with how the sausage is made you shoot this big big shot with probably all the actors and you see the whole set but that is not what you will see in the finished movie you'll see a closeup of the person having their emotional scene also the agony of have gotten that moment in the wide and then like okay let's move in for coverage and then you just never get that feeling in coverage that happens too but then it's cool like the series I'm shooting right now I've shot eight weeks now seven and I did like my first real closeup two days ago really yeah Olivier as say as a a French filmmaker and I've done three days in a row with with like eight pages a day of just two people talking but he's very good at it's called blocking it's kind of when you set the choreography of how how you move in a in a scene and it's never dull and that's so nice cuz the other day it was like a bit closer like I don't know half body but like it was the first just my face close up in eight weeks and in one way I I admire that because he is a very talented filmmaker and he dares to trust both the performers as actors and his own words and that it will transcend and work in a bigger frame and that you hopefully will be able to stay in those frames longer and then when he punched in for real and it kind of reminds me of like during lockdown actually I watch a lot of old classics and it's amazing if you watch films from like the 30s 40s and it's incredible performances and they run scenes in wide shots for a long time and you're as engaged and then suddenly if you're aware of it they go close and it's like it happens only a few times in the film and the impact is so big it's interesting because it can be easier and it's so hard to make movies especially what we do now here shooting it like this I'm I am a bit more terrified I'm like I don't know if this is going to work you know hope sure because you're a bit more naked in that sense but normally if you cover a lot then you're also set up for the fact like you said you can go into an edit it and you do have a lot more choices and then also can push to bring out emotions easier if you go close let's say yeah it's a big cost in the series I mean he's one of those directors that a a lot of actors want to work with so the actors that he's brought on set are they're all great top of their game yeah no I walk in every day and I'm like woo okay and with those long scenes I just need to know your [ __ ] yeah exactly so I would say that I'm I'm so impressed by everyone surrounding me on the show I would imagine for you you would enjoy like many different touch points on a set like a a big choreograph scene with lots of movement and marks because you did ballet like to me that feels like something that would appeal to you I love that how long did you do ballet I went to the Royal Swedish ballet school so I started when I was nine and I did the whole nine years in school wow this is most of my questions for Lear about this experience as you might guess MH this is fascinating one of them being well first of all have you been in balet no no well Monica's a two-time state champ cheerleader so she had her own version of that but it was more the American I'm sure the training is not very far of my experience intense and violent a little violent and a little emotional lots of injuries yeah but I only did that for a few years nine years I mean that's so much dedication okay so I have a stereotype in my mind of people who do ballet I've had several different friends that were into ballet and where it differs in my opinion from other things is I've noticed they'll still do it like it's their workout in a way and it's clearly something startic is happening when they do this work not you you would never do it as a workout no for me it was so difficult to quit when I did because it had been my life when I quit it was emotionally very hard to make that I was very afraid that I was making the wrong decision yeah H I was also feeling like I was letting everyone down especially all the teachers when I did it it was kind of from having done it like six seven hours a day six days a week all these years I never took a ballet class from the day I quit did you feel super liberated like oh my God I have so much time I have so much less pain I can get friends yeah yeah yeah no I suddenly became a very kind of 18yearold 18-year-old you know I was like I wanted to do everything and travel you were leted out of a ballet cage yeah I mean it was amazing and I wouldn't exchange that for anything in one way it was kind of my education for what I do now but it's tough I'm like impressed like even if I did it myself I kind of forget that sometimes and I went to the Opera here in Paris just a few weeks ago and as soon as I see the dancers I'm like oh my God I just can't believe cuz I somewhere still remember what it's like and what it is and then even more I'm like oh my God I'm such a and like people should know what these guys go through and then I saw Rome and Juliet pretty amazing it was their first opening night with like a full audience and then I was behind stage and I got to say hi to the premier dancers who did the leads and it's a lot of P it's called in in in French but it's a when the classical thing when you see the the couple dancing and the girl gets lifted a lot and thrown around and in Romeo Juliet it's like up in the air and down on the floor it's very dramatic and romantic obviously and they die so there a lot of throwing her everywhere and then she STS there she was like oh yeah no I'm okay you know but I broke a rib 3 days ago oh so she was like yeah we had to work out he had to like have his hand on another rib tonight oh so he could like throw me from here I mean yeah I mean that's just nuts yeah yeah it definitely follows the pattern way more of a professional sport than it does like an artistic Outlet yeah it's exactly that it seems to attract a certain personality type cuz great pain is ahead of you there's a weird layer of massis to it a tiny bit it's the ultimate expression of control and not just the physical control but also like the body shape the eating that's why you get them young when they don't know right you bring out the pink Tut twos false advertising you lure them in with the tut two every in including me I was sitting there I think I was like three and watching The Nutcracker and you know my mom was prepared to like take me to go home after the First Act you know 3 years old and I was like oh and I sat there for two hours wow cuz of the pink Tut pink tutos yeah yeah yeah I remember and then I she actually put me in class and I was so bummed I remember it was like the Christmas kind of show and like my group got to be like Pirates and the other group got to be like pink butterflies and I was so so sad a whole year of training to get to do that where this pirate costume I don't know I kind of think of it as like the closest thing you can do to joining the convent like you dedicate your entire life to it and it's embroiled in so much disappointment and pain I feel like if you can get through that experience it's a pretty good foundation to move forward I guess what I'm saying is is probably Everything feels a little bit easy after that yeah I I think when things have been hard in life I've often thought well it's not worse than school and that was physical pain but psychologically it's tough like when you find out what the symphony orchestra players go through to get to that point I think you're largely unaware of it like you say you go to the the Opera you go to a player you go to a symphony and you just see the pink Tut or hear the great song but then when you find out like the amount of hours it takes one to get themselves in that situation it's just kind of eye opening yeah was there an impetus for quitting was there like an inciting incident or it just was slowly gnawing at you it was a slowly realization that I didn't want to live my life as a dancer yeah because is that hard that's why for anyone who who actually done it and it's pretty actually cool I I told you I haven't done a class since but on the show I'm doing now the director and writer wrote in uh that I need to do a cavaret scene and he hired one of the world's of France biggest choreographers who I never would have ever be able to work with I was a dancer and I stepped into the room and I was like oh my God as a dancer I would never ever ever ever have made it into the space 3 days when he made me a choreography and I was like I haven't done this in years and then he was so sweet and he even said he was like you should come and join us for performers next summer I was like yeah sure but it was really incredible like I love dancing and if you know me you know that even if I don't take class I dance everywhere well I don't know you but I hope to after this see on the dance floor yeah I can [ __ ] up a dance floor no raining but I won't get off of it I leave it all on the floor just to warn you ahead of time amazing well I don't think there is great dones that just dedicated dones so you grew up in Sweden yeah we had this world-renowned economist on and he was just obsessed with Sweden so obsessed in the middle way and that approach so we're very interested in Sweden and we wanted kind of an Insider's perspective so I'm glad you're here what I noticed that has to be a little different is you went away at 16 she left it's Gutenberg yeah were you from is that how you pronounce it gothamberg gothamberg wow I [ __ ] that up bad I was like I bet that's a silent h like uh neander tall like German I was wrong but you went to Stockholm to pursue ballet at 16 completely by yourself and you lived on your own yeah that's a fine thing to do in Sweden that's no issue no one's scared no I mean yeah I was not even six I I was 15 a few months before I turned 16 yeah and the thing is the last year before I moved I was more worried about my mom I'm her only child and I was like my God I kind of like felt bad and now being an adult I really understand I have lost mom I was like oh my God how did you cope and she was like no the year before you left was tough cuz she had a hunch with the training that I did that I might get in if I applied to the school in Stockholm so she said she went through this year of like kind of getting to terms with me leaving and then she said when you finally did it was okay manable yeah but so I think nowadays they do have a boarding school but they didn't have that then who did you live with where did you live no it's the first 6 months I rented a room and then you get like a small allowance I think like aund maybe $200 from your City if you get into a school that you can prove doesn't exist in your town oh okay this is part of the middle way right there yeah you get that and I got a bit of cash from my parents but yeah it wasn't much but then I rented a room but then I actually managed to find an apartment that I rented I mean it's so crazy cuz stockhom like the rest of the world and big cities now it's like to rent the prices are crazy so I was extremely lucky that I found something actually Central in Stockholm so yeah I mean it was pretty cool I remember when I was like 16 and I was like No just come over to my place you know and it was like so cool and I was like I have oats and meatballs I mean it was Tiny this flag but it was kind of cheap only because they there was regulated prices because it didn't really have a kitchen oh okay okay so it was like just a cab it and then it was a sink and I had like this like um kind hot and then I bought this mini bar and I remember it was like milk yogurt like the freeze compartment with which only fitted like one packet that's so Sweedish I remember I ate like frozen meatballs yeah like how did you respond to that much Freedom still responsible or I think I was quite a responsible child growing up but it's interesting because lived in a very small apartment with my mom growing up and I think just turning 14 15 and you're about to like oh my God I just need to break out and do things and maybe not follow the rules and whatever I kind of probably held back another year because I knew that I might just be leaving and then I want to be nice to my mom you know yeah but then I remember arrived in Stockholm like maybe two weeks leading up to the school starting it's like summer and I remember just for me I mean stockhom now it's not very big but to me then it was like the capital was huge and I went and down the subway and I have this memory of me like I was like life begins now kind of feel oh my God I had to work out had to wash your clothes it's like one of those things like my mom was like you need to do it more you don't even know how to do it I was like obviously I know how to do it and then I remember I stood there I was trying to figure [ __ ] out on the day then school started fun was over yeah I mean naturally I wanted to go to bed as soon as possible because I had to be up at 5:30 a.m. in the morning and be in school by 700 what age can you drink there 18 and I really used that so between the second to last and last year I guess because like we said earlier that it's so closed in and it it takes up so much time being in school that I hadn't made a lot of friends just because I moved up moved from my hometown to Stockholm and I spend most of my time in school and I made this like promise to myself I was like I'm going to make friends and I did and actually the people I met that summer before my last year are some of my best friends still today but it's fun to say to them now I was like yeah know I was kind of like huntings that I remember I was at this party and like actually she was one of my Brides made at my wedding H and I remember I walked into this party and you know but I was like saw this gorgeous girl like down the hallway and she seemed so cool and like everyone want to talk to her and I was like she's going to become my friend so yeah so so then that last year I kind of rebelled ballet school a bit so I I kind of became friends with a guy who had the key to the school oh okay because we did spend so much hours in school they actually had beds in our locker rooms oh my God this sounds like a Soviet era gymnast training program yeah no so I sometimes went out dancing but I couldn't really drink because I then knew I I was going to go to school but I loved being out like dancing so I waited until like 5: when it closed and then I went straight to school and I had a nap in school and put the ballet bun up and then I walked into class two hours later oh so then you go in you do an exchange program in New York so this question probably won't apply to you but I am curious I was just talking about this with Monica the other day swedes are my favorite people to run into traveling you find them everywhere you do find them everywhere they're everywhere they're scattered about the globe on holiday at all times and I find that they are almost universally fantastic conversationalists and my first experience with it was on a train ride from Barcelona to Rome very long train ride I was 19 and my girlfriend and I were seated across four Swedish kids traveling and we got to talking and we had this incredible time and I asked you know had you guys ever been to the states one of them had done an exchange program in the South and I said how' you like it and she said oh it was I couldn't stand it and I said oh what what didn't you like about it and she said this forced Hospitality this kind of disingenuous politeness it's just so not Swedish and it drove me crazy and I was like oh being from the north there's even a big difference between Detroit and the South and I'm like yeah I know what you're talking about but then I think just in general even where I'm from there's a lot of like pleasantries that seem disingenuous and I wondered if you were aware of that I mean totally I love all these differences I love talking about kind of what defines people in different cultures and it's very hard to kind of notice what you do until you actually move away from your home and then I realized oh that's what I'm doing I Now understand I do these things cuz I grow up like this and I mean that is not even just the South I think it's a very European versus American culture I kind of came to America I was like oh my like everything is amazing and they like me so much and they like and everyone's so happy and everyone they want to do all these things apparently but then you kind of realized I was like oh that sometimes it's just conversation too yeah and those are things we do not say so we will just blindly trust everything that you guys like you're right right and then you realize I think sweds abroad are generally like you said I think they're more conversational if you go to Sweden I think it might be a bit different you know if you go to a party there you might think oh the sweds are quite stuck up and quite boring and like very serious and yeah and I think that's just because for us you get to know each other but this is you can tell me if it's wrong but then it's a bit of a short time before you actually become friends it's like in America I felt like I can have met people quite a few times and I'm like we're friends now right yeah and then it's like yeah but I would never get invited to somebody's house it's Pleasant and nice but then I'm like shouldn't we like hang out yeah yeah yeah let's go to the Inner Circle yeah exactly and I think that's something different so in in Europe I think you need to fight a bit more to get in there to get to know the person but then if you manage to do it people open up so my wife and I are both from Michigan like we have the same culture and then of course we have different childhoods so the way I interpret love and how I would show love is different from hers but that's from a childhood Dynamic that's different but I do Wonder because you're married to someone from Ireland and he of course has his own culture do you ever bump up against where you just go like oh I'm sorry sweetie that probably hurt your feelings but that's just a very Swedish thing I did like is there any cultural layers we have quite similar upbringings from like kind of working class families smaller houses and so we mostly more felt we have quite a lot of similarities our families it was a very easy kind of introduction there too really so there's no like cultural differences in displaying affection or like are sweds affectionate well it's interesting just with America saying I love you to anyone to everyone yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm the biggest offender of that can I just admit real quick he's going to say it to you at the end of this well and I'll mean it but continue yeah so I love you in Swedish is y and that is like I was with my first like long relationship boyfriend for one and a half year before I said that and I think I said it like four times over three years okay can I be clear though so I have this bracket for humans in my life that are friends and I do love them like the feeling I have inside for them is butterflies I would never say that prematurely to a romantic partner cuz that means so much and that's such a kind of a level of commitment that I would never be halfhazard about yeah but it is the language too it's it's so interesting to get to know a culture through languages too and how they work and like like saying that in Swedish is like you're like like I remember when my dad says it on the phone sometimes I'm like really I got like quite emotional that's nice that it reserves a power yeah it's pretty cool that those words are very impactful so it's not the same like when I say I love you in English it doesn't ring or it doesn't emotionally mean the same thing as if I say it in Swedish yeah like in your lifetime if you're Swedish you're probably only gonna say that word to a handful of people it's become because of you guys uh oh no more used it's actually changed over the past 10 years I would say it's almost gone to the point that when we might be like you guys soon you're Lucy like you love the person at McDonald's who just rang you up no that would be strange said that probably but yeah but if you're craving a Big Mac and you have for a year and they give it to you you might feel a Pang of Love had one in 20 years 20 years wow wow wow wow but that's also familial like how you are raised because when I first joined this group of friends it was the same thing like I started babysitting for them and I would leave and they'd be like Bute I love you and I was like I don't know what to say like do they love me like I've only been babysitting for like a month mon but so for me it was also a transition of like oh they don't mean it in the way that I'm thinking about it yeah or like the French here it's amazing it's again language that forms an entire culture and people so French they kind of like it's always not an issue but they like to argue and like to talk a lot you know for the sake of it and then it's also it's like when something's good they don't say it's good they say it's a p and that mean it's not bad it's not bad that's the high compliment it's not bad it's like oh B that's like really good really good it's like you know we had it on step he was oh B he was like then we know oh director is very happy Bal yeah exactly not bad and it just shows it's like I spoke to a friend here who's French and he said too it's like yeah you're a kid growing up and when someone tells you you've done good they say it's not bad I just don't know if after love making if my partner said not bad I'd be like okay I will work on that that's very American we hear we're saying like it's amazing like you can't stop saying the word amazing we love superlatives in America everything's the best it's no it's like if I say it in America I like oh that's really good they're like uh oh yeah we failed you she doesn't like it she's she's put off well I have friends that are more abusive than me and yeah it annoys me cuz I'm like oh it means nothing I figured like in my mind I'm at the level where I'm super enthusiastic but I'm not disingenuous in my mind which certainly you must read is disingenuous as I do in other people who are more but I feel like when I'm talking enthusiastically about things I love which there's so many it's not a act like I have those feelings inside I have butterflies and excitement and enthus for a Big Mac like I can aventi getting a Big Mac like like it's a real thing yeah I think I become a bit more like that when I'm out in La now I suddenly reached a higher level and I have a difficulty to express that something higher yeah yeah yeah boy you're right you don't leave yourself a lot of room but I want to say you could almost argue it is the difference in a worldview that is infinite and abundant or one that is finite and needs to be doled out carefully does that make any sense and it's an interesting thought like so let me first acknowledge so annoying that would drive me nuts if I were you like well nothing means nothing everyone [ __ ] loves their shitty hamburger that's not true I love these things like I end up talking about it a lot traveling I kind of like to figure out yeah yeah you appreciate it the difference yeah when I was in Japan too to learned that the language it's like I had to speak a bit of Japanese and I kind of read this line I was like and I read it in the translated version and English and I asked my translator I was like I would love for it to have a tiny a bit of sarcasm in there yeah you and he was like well then all you have to do is address this person a bit above than what you should ah yeah be like calling the guy at the valet your highness that would be sarcastic yeah but they just can do it in a very slight subtle way subtle way and I thought that was cool how many languages do you speak CU I noticed you did a movie in Danish early my danish when I've had a few drinks is pretty good okay when you're playing pool yeah when I'm in Copenhagen and play pool probably that's why they kind of do there yeah I would give it a go I do understand a bit of French I've realized now so they can't talk too much shitet no so I kind of shown them I was like do know what you saying can I tell you that's Monica's dream because when we talk about superpowers I want to be invisible she wants to be able to hear what people think which I think would be terrible I would not want to know that at all no it's none of my business none of my business I'm just SC but she can do that she's figured out and you could do it too so learn a language and tell everyone you don't speak it and then you could do you would hear them talking about okay that's a big plan but sure it's going to take a while but not as hard as bad La true true and Michael speaks German yes his mother tongue is English right cuz he moved away from Germany when he was two somehow I read that he could speak German yeah it's not his first language but yeah he can get by if he would hate me if I said this time no it's really good it's really amazing it's Wonder it's Z good z z go well I was just thinking that that's quite an advantage for your kid to grow up in a l I bet if you put together 100 American families you might get four languages that could be spoken that's Dreadful yeah but I think one thing that has happening though is it's amazing to see films just over the past few years I mean with parasite winning an Oscar people now in America will have started to get used to actually reading subtitles and actually start to watch this wonderful Treasure of films that have been made all over the world stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare I have the weirdest surprise for you and I don't know if you're going to like it I've never done this ever on the show but I felt like this was the time to do it and so here's the backstory before I introduce him our best friend Jess he grew up in Sweden he's American but his dad played professional basketball in Sweden so he grew up there for 6 or seven years he sings a song that I can't imagine is correct but I knew you would know and so I've invited him to sing this song for you if that's okay with you amazing should I join if I know it perhaps you should join but I'm gonna give Jess your microphone oh my God I'm so excited he can have mine Monica let me stand behind you guys just you kind of need to stand right Alicia you're never ever in your life going to see a performance this heartfelt ever I promise you down more heart no no do it like you do do it like you do it okay hey the super I left when I was 11 so it's so good so fantastic wow I've never heard him do what he just did oh my God you look so Swedish you look a lot more Swedish than I do okay so this is J so my we don't tell what it is no don't tell what it is just start she knows it nice to meet you belong yeah hey do I have to go to work love you okay am love you okay we the words accurate I think he nailed it I think that was correct yeah oh my gosh wow that was a first I kind of remembered it too yeah you were singing along yeah I was impressed oh my God thank you for doing that receiving that I guess thank you for receiving that it's the jingle for pong stocking and yeah I voiced her on Spotify you did what like last year yeah mhm so there a connection Spotify we like that yeah we do Jess has gone to Halloween as Pippy long shocking at nine of the last 16 years he makes the best pippy cuz he's 6' s and looks insane and he's probably as strong as pippy maybe not as oh God that was fun okay so he did a good job he can sing that song CU When I'm listening to it I'm like I love it so much we make him sing it all the time but I'm like I don't know if he's saying the real thing or is he just making it up we don't know that is the real thing oh my God that's exciting okay can we talk about cuz now I got to now I got to put the pedal to the metal so we can talk about your new movie but I just I have to ask ask a couple questions about exmachina because I just I don't know man that movie for me was what an experience that movie was in on so many different levels like visually it was so incredible the acting was insane the concept with the thinking all of it was so impressive and my first question was where was that set we shot it in in a studio in London like five weeks and then we spent maybe a week 10 days up by the fs in Norway oh so that's nor way yeah and it's pretty amazing so it's partly this hotel like very simple hotel where we shot it and I think their business is thriving since and for the past seven years people just it's like fully booked and it was like the nicest family who ran that place we were like living in the rooms we were shooting in and then we had to like move out in the morning and set up like you know really yeah yeah it's kind of like probably now the park Hiatt in Tokyo m go like on vacation to have their L and translation experience exactly and one thing I thought was potentially interesting is Alexander Garland who wrote and directed that he's a son of a psychologist your daughter of a psychiatrist did that come up do children of psychiatrists and psychologists share a bond I think one thing is I grw up with a dad who in his office downstairs like he has one wall with just a lot of of books and one one is medicine and then the other one is just fantasy and sci-fi oh he thinks it's kind of the same he was like this is all the same world and my the same interest he read fantasy for me when I was a kid so that interest in science I think and sci-fi I have too which obviously Alex has here's the bond I imagine hypothetically exists as I would hope the children of psychologists or psychiatrists have a more well-rounded toolkit than most kids get I think it's interesting I mean I I give this credit to my dad I've had a few people sometimes ask me and say oh how was it having a dad who's in that profession did he ever like analyze you or give you and I was like no never but I've have thought back on time especially when I've been an adult and didn't live at home and when I needed it he was like magically always there and he has this crazy talent and I know now later in life that he is doing this because he's actually very good at it and he makes people talk he is in a very classic he's a very good listener and this has happened a few times and a quite strange occasions I was actually in Tokyo filming he was there visiting and we went to this pretty like underground cool nightclub and it was like pretty intense dungeon and it was like this very kind of known famous DJ up in the booth after a while I was like where's Dad you know and then I suddenly see him up in the DJ booth like with his hands crossed and this like DJ has left some other dude standing there and then they stand there for like literally like 25 minutes and I was like isn't that his set right now and then that guy comes down cuz he's friends with a one of my friends and he's said oh my God it's said I don't know what happened it's like I Met Your Dad I opened up my entire life to this guy you know and he had no clue what my dad does and he was like so like I don't and that has happened several times and it's often like it's not anything my dad says that he does but people just like end up having very long discussions with him and like oh my God yeah I was like we just met but we had some really a very deep conversation God I hope I bump into traveling somay cuz that would really Bullseye my Swedish stereotype like sit down and just have a [ __ ] solid conversation right out of the gates I think actually my dad and my mom apparently they met at a party and ended up sitting at this opart until 7:00 a.m. in the morning talking about death I was like yeah just ch I was like crazy so romantic okay wait do I have another question about exmachina I'm just obsessed with it it's so [ __ ] what about Sweden did you have any more questions about Sweden I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not like you're like oh my God this whole interview is been about I was honest yeah I'm going to tell you one thing about Sweden and it'll come with an admission of my vanity you ready I went to stock home when I was like 20 MH I don't love my looks the only thing I like is I'm like well thank [ __ ] God I'm 6'3 like I feel grateful about this right this is the only thing I think I got going for me I go to Stockholm I'm walking around I am so dead average it's uncomfortable how in the mean I am I'm just dead average height dead average everything and I was like oh my goodness I've never felt so just among everyone like yeah I remember I think it was one of my first events that I ever probably like right in the beginning like maybe 10 years ago I first time in LA and they wanted me to go to this GQ Man of the Year award that sounds great so I put my heels on and I went and I remember I stood in the room at the chatau and I was like looking out over the room and I was like something is a bit off I'm acknowledging something and I don't know what it is yeah and then I realized I can actually like see the B like you can look across the restaurant and see the bar yeah in America I'm almost almost a bit above average I realized and in Sweden I'm short yeah yeah miniature wait how tall are you 167 and a half what's that [ __ ] oh [ __ ] well that Rob's Rob oh 54 okay that's we like that height that's a good height that's for me it's not tall though well yeah but in Sweden I'm short very short and then men are very tall I've never been used to like C in boss it's always just like heads you yeah and shoulders see in a movie this would have led to a great montage and you would have went to the movies and sat behind people and you could see the screen no the concert that's the concert then you go to concerts like you would have a whole montage of all the things you're enjoying where you can finally see this could be a whole like a Swedish Coming to America story and it's just all about she had not seen most of the world yeah it's called visibil the name of the movie oh my gosh but it's about deeper it's about being able to see the soul of people that's lovely yeah it's I was used to see chest not soul I have an exmachina a question so after that movie that movie came out everyone was talking about it it was like everyone you have to go see this you have to see in the movie theater you know no one wanted to spoil what was going to happen but then you emerged out of that as like everyone thinking of you as the most beautiful person on the planet I'm glad you said it I couldn't say it I know I know you wanted to and that is a lot probably to feel all at once well thank you and I don't at all think I was really aware of that you weren't wow by the way I can't is this the probably the worst question you could ask a suet is like she now has to comment on her own Beauty exactly I I will now get very very uncomfortable I'm not asking you to comment on your beauty I'm asking the reaction one thing that a lot of people don't know is that xara opened up in the UK because very small Indie movie was shot for very very low budget in a few weeks and it bombed oh no I went and saw it and they took it out from the theaters and that was it and then a company that obviously now is one of the most known for the Fantastic films they're making a24 was this newly created company and they said we would love to just release this in America and they did and that was their first film and like suddenly it was like it came out again but the world now saw it so that's pretty cool because it was almost a film that kind of just got lost I don't know what his genius is in casting but I just can't imagine a more perfectly cast movie and pulling from unlikely places there's just all these really neat elements that some somehow Beyond his literary genius and writing ability has some casting ability that's really impressive yeah I remember I even told him later I was oh my God I was so intimidated he's soart yeah he wrote the beach you know the when he was like you know that Monica the Leo DiCaprio movie that they made from the novel he wrote the novel oh wow I was send that script and I was shooting a film in Australia at the moment and I just it was one of those things I was like they asked me if I wanted to do a self tape I remember I asked some people in the crew I was like can you guys help me and I was like it's the scene and it's a robot and doesn't say anything what she looks like it was amazing because it was kind of like a clean sheet and how I interpreted a yeah and I was like oh my God I want this part so bad and it was like after a day of shoot and I had to do it because it was had to get to LA and The Time differences so I think we arrived at my house or my apartment at like 1011 pm and these two super cool guys in the crew who helped me uh we set up and I remember I just like slicked my hair back and with like lots of lots of like Hairspray and then I I found like sun lotion and I just like took ton of sun lotion in my face so I cannot have this shine oh wow wow and then I put this big light on top of me and I just remember when I did I was like oh my God I love this so much so then when I got a call from Alex like a few days later I was so so excited I've never read the script but I do imagine it has to take a bit of vision from you because I think a lot of actors respond to dialogue like they read a script they like [ __ ] I want to say those lines but it was the lines too it's one of the most economical scripts and Brilliant maybe one of the best ones I've ever read to be honest and it's like a page Turner because so good and everything that is said in the film is what the script was which is not very common actually it's kind of exactly what it said it was going to be okay well I could talk about that movie for five more hours but alas we are going to talk about Blue Bayou I watched the trailer last night and then of course I learned a bunch about the director of it and I went down a rabbit hole with him with this project I saw go a film Justin's first film uh that came out of Sundance a few years ago and I was it really like immediately you know put him on my radar I was like who's this guy yeah he shot this film for like 200 Grand and it's really beautiful and I realize that he's an actor and especially being korean-american he has issues or had to get parts and then he just you know to know that he just decided Well then I'm going to create my own opportunities and I'm going to write and I'm going to direct and I'm going to act I'm going to do all of it and then kind of showed everyone and just knocked it out of the park yeah so when I found out he had this film he wanted to make I said I would love to just read it I would love to have a chat with him I would love to say hi know and just say I'm I'm a fan you know yeah I was really touched by the script that I read and especially the story that it telling which brought a subject to light that I I wasn't aware of and when we wrapped up our conversation I think I just called my team and it kind of said which is maybe not the way to I was like well we just had a great chat we decided we're going to do it or I'm going to do it so now you guys figure it out or something and but it's a small film so in one way it's not that much to figure out it's like it's a very very tiny budget yeah you're getting nothing and let's start yeah we sh just a few weeks after that I mean it went really fast then and we just kind of went to New Orleans and and I was so excited to be there too I hadn't been there before I loved it as much as I thought okay so the premise really quick is Justin he plays a Korean who was adopted at like maybe Age Two by American parents so it's an incredible accent he's like cinjun in the movie he's and he's Asian he's got all these tattoos all over his neck and you guys are an item and you have a daughter and they're together and they're living a life and then ice kind of gets into the picture and says like you're not a citizen and you've got to leave there was this loophole in the'80s they were adopted into America and then it was a lot of paperwork that had to be filed after the time that they had arrived and a lot of parents didn't actually complete that and uh in this one case which I think was the inspiration for Justin writing this film this article you read about this man who the parents just decided after like two years that we regret this Choice oh no where we don't want him anymore then he gets Foster in know home and then he ended up being shuffled around I don't know how many homes until he was a certain age and then he had an incident when he broke into a a foster family that had been taken care of him and also throughout the years it was a lot of abuse but he like stole something that was in his own possession I think it was even like Bible but that almost sounds too dramatic but um but they ended up like dropping the charges anyway but that in the end was what ice then used because nowadays they changed that in the '90s so if a child gets adopted into America and they arrive in America they are then American citizens okay but it was this chunk of time and years where all these thousands and thousands of kids came into America and now the government could just decide to like M you know yeah you should go back to your home country now your accent is incredible and I wondered like you've obviously done the American accent a bunch but that one's so specific I hadn't really done American so you hadn't no I was really terrifying that would be the scariest thing imaginable to me yeah how did you go about that I mean also one of the reasons why I wanted to do this part I remember at the beginning of my career arriving in America someone said well they clearly thought I was kind of from an upper class because they've seen me play like queens and stuff in films well and we think anyone with a vaguely English accent is a genius from royalty ex and I was like well I'm kind of from a smaller town in Sweden and definitely working class yeah and it's just interesting but I don't think anyone ever would see me or think of me even though I maybe wanted to cost me in that kind of role as in this film and I really connected with that part on an emotion level and I was like well I think I understand this woman and where she comes from of course it's another language and another accent but I think I've seen this world and it was actually amazing to see I mean the entire crew obviously because of his Heritage too like the diversity in front of the camera and behind the camera I think someone counted and it was like a crazy amount of countries it was like a un crew yeah have you been to Toronto by chance yeah I actually consider myself being a bit Canadian because I have so much relatives there because my dad's family immigrated to Canada oh so my dad from age five to like 1920 grew up in Canada which kind of formed him so he doesn't really remember growing up in Sweden at all so his brothers and all my cousins live there they don't speak Swedish though yeah we were in Toronto and we looked around I was like I have never in my whole life stood somewhere that's more diverse than this like it's almost as if it's exactly the percentage of people in the world are represented perfectly in that City it's mindblowing that's what I loved with London when I lived there too yeah did you like being in Louisiana oh my God I loved it you did yeah I should find a new job taking me back to New Orleans yeah obviously I already had an idea of like the music scene or the food but everything was better than I thought it's amazing to see this very colorful and vibrant American culture that still feels rooted in America but it feels like something you don't come across when you go to New York you go to La of San Francisco and America is still a very young country but New Orleans feel like it really has some history oh totally yeah it's also I would describe it as French Hillbillies basically which is my favorite stereotype to mixing cuz like Austin Texas is liberal Hillbillies which is a nice mix and then then yeah the French influence with that southern thing is creates this incredibly unique fingerprint it's such a great place it is as the Director you have a global vision at all times and these scenes are pieces in This Global Vision but as an actor these scenes are everything you're supposed to focus on the moment as the actor and be truthful in the moment but the director has to have a much more Global understanding of the whole story so that it doesn't go ay and I think there's a nice bond between actors in a scene which is you and I want to make this the real thing and then the director is this Outsider that's sometimes like yes but you guys can't be sad here because in four scenes you're going to be really sad and we need to be able to grow to that so someone has to have their eye on that and I think it can be a little bit weird when your scene partner who normally you guys would be fighting for the moment the director would be fighting for the global vision for that scene partner to also have the global vision and for at times them to be motivated out of the global vision it's just an interesting Dynamic I think over the years I've been I'm much more what you said now is a global vision okay more and more I maybe it's also due to my dancing background like I like to know what lens you're on I don't mind having the technical awareness of what it is you're shooting and in one way I see that as my work I said with all the brilliant people that I'm working with right now I know that I have to just be on my toes because the train is just going to leave as soon as they start and I need to keep up that is fun yeah yeah yeah yeah the slight bit of panic is good yeah yeah I can't wait for you guys to see it was a scene I shot yesterday and it was the wildest thing I've ever seen it was one actor I had no clue it's one of the craziest performances yeah HBO came to a set visit for that one day and I don't think they had ever seen anything oh really what is the show yeah it's a limited series with Olivia SAS that we producing it with a24 and HBO picked it up all the things that happened yesterday I was like at least it's HBO all these crazy [ __ ] that happened yesterday is going to be allowed to actually be broadcast oh did you watch White Lotus no oh I need something new to watch it's on HBO six episodes Mike White wrote and Ed a lot of them it's phenomenal pH and there's a scene I won't say anything I'm just going to say there's a scene in the sixth final episode where we all watched it Sunday and I said immediately well I've never seen that in a movie which is hard to say at 46 years old I've never seen that in a movie or TV show is a hard wait to see this and I was so proud of everyone involved even though it was so blue I was like God bless HBO God bless Mike White God bless the actors was the prop Department everyone came together and I can't believe we just saw that I'm reading about it right now yeah cool I'm going to watch tonight you're going to love it it's so so good last question you haven't worked with a ton of American directors have you was Justin one of of very few yeah yeah so did that cultural layer we were talking about with the kind of effusive praise did that at all come into play during the shooting of this I think it's the Korean blend the the maybe turn that down a bit they're not very effusive no it's much more Swedish then I would say but then that's what I love with the Koreans they're like the naughty ones I mean they're like they're like you meet them and you might know the beginning you're like oh it's very kind of strict and like no they're just quite outrageous it's I I love ker and I've had the best time every time I'm there this is again a big stereotype and and I acknowledge it's a stereotype but back when I was uh still a practicing alcoholic among my favorite people to party with were Filipinos and Koreans they can [ __ ] go hard and I really respected that about them so maybe that's a bit of that naughtiness you're talking about exactly yeah well listen I can't believe you did this after you shot all day and I have some more I'm going to do some more oh no no no no I would be a brat I say yeah I was like yeah it's been a long day but I didn't think about that at all I've had such a good time I really really enjoyed this thank you so much well wonderful and then last thing did you just have a baby well I I was told there was this Daily Mail article that came out of my husband and I in an airport with a Baby Oh I thought that was very fun it was just Alysia Michael and they're holding a [Laughter] baby so I guess I just leave it there like people then disputed like I don't know if it's a thing that my husb and I have about just grabbing a baby at any airport that's what we love about you guys we love that about you guys you'll grab anyone's baby yeah Alicia so nice to meet you and I hope we get to talk again when you're promoting your HBO show yeah let's do one of those silly comedies where everything is so amazing oh my God I'm a good hang on set I'm like a five on camera but off camera I'm like a nine oh great those are the films I want to make perfect let's go and do one of those amazing okay perfect I didn't see it yet but it looks really truly great it looks so dreamy in there's such a specific tone just visually yeah Auntie the cinematographer who's done his other two films he's going places no he he's so talented yeah I love when people do a ton with very little resources it's always so impressive I admire it so everyone see blue byou so great to meet you and thanks for doing this again after a day of shooting I'm too big of a brat I would have never agreed to that and I'm impressed it's the ballet training you're used to suffering you're like yes so after a long day I'd like to suffer some more let's do it thank you guys had so much fun have an amazing day and say hi from me to you a Swedish friend I will and also um I just want to leave you with we love you we love you we love I love you guys this is so amazing uh see you guys soon all bye bye stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare and now my favorite part of the show The fact check with my soulmate Monica [Music] padman okay that was should we be honest I just opened and closed the door at a stoplight so that you'd get the sense we were just stepping into the car man you really I pulled the curtain back right as I was showing everyone the curtain yeah I I was going to say that it was Foley uhhuh but actually it's not fley it's the real thing that's true but Foley's often the real thing just put in a microphone sure like if it's a door closing they might actually record the door closing and still call that fley yeah cuz it was recorded with great sound with a a dedicated mic to it and then they lay that in over the movie so you can can really hear that crisp door sound but they don't want to muddle up the dialogue so there was no crisp door sound on the day oh I like thinking of Foley more as like rolling a bowling ball through eggshells with coins and it means something else it means coas well right or cus interruptus yeah so first fact check in a car yes we're 88,200 ft in Park City Utah we're in Park City we're on our way to Salt Lake I was going to do a a speaking engagement you were and it was cancelled due to Corona fears which I guess you could argue should lead us to think we should cancel our show tonight but we're not going to do that right no but by the time this airs it'll be too late but you do have to show your proof of vaccination or negative test but what if it turns out that this we have our show tonight yep Sunday it's all over the paper super spreader super spreader event turns out it was a super spreader event and then people will be listening to this like how naive they didn't even know I would feel really embarrassed we'll have to edit this out if it does turn out to be a super spreader event people are going to concerts like it's back there's such a specific culture in La which is everyone has a mask no one here has a mask that we were seen yeah so so the chances of it being a super spread is a little higher or I think lower cuz how the hell they going to figure out it was our event everyone's like you know I was just I just left 7-Eleven it was pretty it was popping in there you mean the chance es of us getting caught are lower but the chances of it being a super spreader event are actually higher huh yeah that's my point if it's you know what I'm saying yeah oh you saw damy y right next to a Del T okay we're gonna get on the uh I 80 going W I don't know people might be mad at us for driving and doing this why we Reckless when you and I are in the car this is exactly what we do there's nothing's different I have a driving mic stand that's been engineered specifically for podcasters who are always behind the wheel okay great there's a great company called Dura fish who makes them oh out of Sweden they saw a niche market for podcast hosts who operate from their vehicle oh my God yeah they have 11 customers Nationwide and you're one of them well we're two of them oh I'm also Happ yes yes yes yes okay so what's fun is we're in Park City and it's not a snowy time no it's a summertime and a summer it's actually yam kapor it's yam kapor today that's correct you say happy Y kapore no I'm not sure and I don't and it's like saying happy Memorial Day it's It's Tricky I think they repent oh they yes they well I just had a correspondence with Dr klewitz uhu he told me he was repenting for his sins today yeah he said it right in the email I don't think you'd say happy that's true if you're a masochist maybe and you like relishing and all your failures Jeremy Ranch 1 half mile what if oh my God you're going to be like your dad jird oh wait that's joybird there's a joy bird oh cool yeah when my dad's in the car he reads every single thing he sees it's a tick he doesn't know he's doing it and I relate to it a ton yeah you say you do that but in your head I do it in my head and I want to do it out loud but I police myself can I just make an observation so on our way up to Park City we averaged about 89 miles an hour or something uhhuh but now that we're in this casual ation I have it at 69 so maybe this is like a weird way to solve my slow down too aggressive driving yeah I like that thank God for dual fish oh my God you remember the name I'm not sure if I got it right I think you did yeah so maybe it's that's what I need to do all the time always be recording AB this is kind of a huge ding-ding ding okay because this is for Alicia Vander right she's Swedish oh my goodness and I just accidentally said that what' you say didn't I say the that duo fish was a Swedish company oh I think you did I think I did oh my goodness okay that's a ding ding and it looked like Switzerland is that what you're gonna say even though Sweden doesn't look like Switzerland I think swed Sweden is like Switzerland which has the Swiss Alps which has kiing which Park city has yes but Sweden doesn't have Alps Unfortunately they have fjs how close are they to Switzerland boy just Stone throw like this is a bold just guess from the map like Imagining the map Switzerland Sweden I'm going to go 800 miles or 1,200 kilometers or flying how long would it take oh well if it was 800 miles then your flight would be about an hour and 40 minutes so it's not close by no no no no no I can name the countries in between those countries I think really yeah I think starting at Sweden and going south you'd hit Denmark then you would hit Holland then you would hit either Germany or France depending on how East or West you were and then you would hit potentially Austria or Switzerland next Germany does border Switzerland and Austria oh my god wow they're not even remotely okay I've made a big blond they're in Scandinavia right there next to Finland and Norway all right let me revamp my ding- dding ding Sweden starts with an S and Switzerland starts with but even crazy I think even more to the point Sweden and swiss is very close right that's why I got confused yeah it's very common I'm kind of glad I'm messing this up about countries of white people yeah cuz you feel less bad well I just feel like people do this with Asian countries or Africa people think Africa is a country right exactly but a lot of people are like oh they're Chinese or they and it's like no they're not right it's common you know this is a common saying that made me nervous well it happens yes so I'm kind of glad that it happens also with these uh White countries I think it's fair to say that people just have a pretty poor understanding of geography in general I do they don't know [ __ ] about Eastern Europe they don't know [ __ ] about the countries in the Middle East Lamb's Kenyon one half miles oo the meek shell inherit the earth the Lamb's got this whole Canyon it's named after them it is really [Music] beautiful oh wish you guys could see it wish you were here didn't something just happen in the elevator I wanted oh we just had a we had we just had a very scary situation that we accidentally went exiting the hotel we got onto a service elevator which in retrospect was pretty obvious you think well in that there was four carts just part in the elev and right when we got in I made the joke oh cool storage closet but we still you know this is our arrogance we thought H like someone left all these here this is embarrassing for the hotel yeah I was embarrassed on behalf of the hotel it was us us we made a mistake although they really even though that's a um that what turned out to be a utility elevator they shouldn't be using it as storage that's not where the cart should be regardless well anyways that's not even the point the point is we get in this you know rough rough and tumble elevator front of it looked like the regular elevator that was confusing yeah and then the inside was stainless steel and scuff marks and broken light screens and then we we're supposed to go down one floor we go down one floor open it up there's like 300 tomatoes in front of us soon as the door opens and it smells like moist kitchen when I used to work at Big Boys as a team oh yeah it smell damp like a lot of deep frying had been happening oh boy and then we hit the button again to return to the floor we started on and that opened in a different kitchen and then we really thought we were [ __ ] in another time space Contin yes it got scary that would have been so crazy if we literally got got transported like Harry Potter and I kept hitting the buttons like too quickly scared yeah you were getting panicky and then you started clicking everything and then we had to wait once we actually figured out what was happening and what floor we needed to go to I had already hit so many buttons that we had to stop at every Kitchen in between so many kitchens there that's what the other Harry Potter thing is each floor was identical I swear the same box of tomatoes was on one and B oh my God I was touching go for a second I was like should we just get off in one of these kitchens cuz I was nervous I was nervous that the elevator was going to break cuz it was not it didn't seem sturdy and steady no and in fact at one point it shut the doors and I was like I don't think it moved and the doors opened again a bird you're warning me about what a bird just pooped here oh my goodness right on the wind are you sure that's a dead dead insect that looks like a splatter of an insect I thought you were pointing out this wide load that's above uh right in front of us in the number three lane no we do have a wide load are you trying to tell me this is a roadkill situation yeah I think that's a casualty on the windshield oh God okay okay do you want to give your forer's guide review of downtown Park City because you really liked it oh I loved it it was so adorable we had a very cute lunch out in a little cute outdoor patio with lights it was adorable the food was mediocre it was fine it was just fine yeah we decided it didn't matter cuz the Ambiance was so nice that's right it was outside in the mountains it smelled good yeah and then you did some shopping I did I got a very cute jacket and a lipstick and I went into some other stores they have lots of cute stores and restaurants but it's it's manageable it's one Long Street the only thing that'll get you is the street is at a pretty decent angle and again you're at 88,200 feet yeah we were out of breath we yeah we were we were struggling and it was hot out we think we're going to get a pop of energy when we get back down to 5200 feet in Salt Lake we hope it was really nice should I tell everyone listen that's as open as my nose gets at elevation I have a kind of a I guess I would call an allergic reaction elevation where my nose gets clogged immediately yeah and it gets a little bloody I had blood this morning oh you did yeah I notic good I feel less fragile yeah but I have blood a lot in my nose you do uhhuh once a week I used to have it every day oh that's healthy I haven't check I mean I now I don't even think about it cuz it's just like yeah yeah it's part of my life have diarrhea every day be a man do it do it with bloody nose okay have a bloody nose every day be a man yeah yeah it's good that's good maybe one other update no what cuz I don't know if I can do it right now I'd been workshopping my Bill Clinton this week oh and that it actually met your stringent guidelines it actually did your approval I was surprised at how good it was yeah I was talking to Monica about coming off the campaign Trail it was hard out there I see are you from the south too you know I'm from Arkansas how you doing what's your name Monica oh are you a student no I'm 34 you are yeah well you don't look a day over 14 oh thank you I know a lot of 14y olds okay no well cuz I do L you so today it was a six but it was it got to an eight yesterday it did it did it did yeah this was still good but you're right last night was a little better yeah because we were watching um the impeachment show yeah yeah um played by Clive Owen oh man that's really kind of inspired casting it really is Ryan Murphy does such a good job with casting people who can really transform oh Paulson in the that Sarah Paulson is unreal she is if her name's not in the credits there's no no [ __ ] way anyone knows that's her yeah no way you'd never get it it's not even when I'm like looking at her I'm not even thinking like who does she look like right she not even triggering anything she looks like Linda trip yeah oh my God it's crazy the only giveaway a little bit if I close my eyes I her voice to me is very specific yeah you've been doing a lot of like eye eye closing yeah just shutting down different senses to see if you can pick her up plugging your nose and watching yeah putting mittens on and watching maybe that's what the bloody nose is all about is plugging your nose too often yeah see if you can hear Sarah Paul see her better when you can't smell anywh who this was a a fun couple days and we're on our way to our live show armchair and dangerous very excited me too oh it's been like almost two years I know really I mean oh so naive they had no idea of the super spreader event they were hosting oh my God wait I'm nervous now I'm seeing like huge concerts people are going to huge concerts yeah and I'm not reading any outbreak of super spreader events yeah but most of those are outdoor no I'm seeing a lot of um oh indoor couple hundred thousand people in like a living room oh that seems crazy well I feel good about the the protocol and we'll see yeah we'll we'll find out oh they were so optimistic and naive should I go through some facts yeah let's let's hear some of them did you toot no oh I smell a little bit of a fart really yeah but I don't mind at all it's not me okay great and it's not me oh my God what if there's a monster in the back seat that popped up oh my God that's actually you never think about that for the person for the asent hiding in the back seat to kidnap you never think about that no no I never thought about what if farts oh you follow me I think he has good control over his Airways or else he wouldn't be a villain you don't pick when you get gas you can't like train your way out of having gas I guess you don't eat that day maybe they know that we would just blame it on the road like what I'm about to do which is like yeah I guess it just smells out there right but if you were driving by yourself in the car you smelled a really distinct fart that would [ __ ] you up you would know to look in your back seat after seeing that episode of Veronica Mars where I no spoilers I guess but like but a big big spoiler big spoiler season finale very scary person is in the back seat of her car at night and I've never forgotten that and I'm always terrified and I always check okay can I just play out the scenario though a little bit yeah about the fart yeah okay I'm driving in my car oh God did I fart no I didn't fart who [ __ ] farted and I turn around I look I go a oh my God and there's a guy back there and then he goes oh my God I'm so sorry and then I would go for farting or for being in my back seat okay and he go [ __ ] I guess both oh oh this is nice this kind of made him nice yeah well he felt vulnerable cuz there's no one else to blame it on in the car it's clearly him then are you going to ask him what he ate what' you eat [ __ ] I don't know you ever do that you forget what you ate for lunch like it was I guess it was unmemorable that's what I can tell you about my lunch it was completely unmemorable and I'd be like oh you should start using Yelp or maybe it was anxiety about the kidnapping he was about to do could be yeah a little IBS yeah then I then one of I was like do I need to stop do you need to find a bathroom oh I extended an olive BR that's really nice and then then he quit being an assassin this is all a worthwhile trip down hypothetical Lane did you find your facts no well cuz I got distracted because an update date I'm in touch Now with an mon Sor oh my gosh yes arm cherries thank you so much for your hard work and you're sleuthing because we have found Anne Monsour yes last episode we talked about how the arm cherries came through but they really really came through because I am now I'm in an email correspondence with her and I'm so excited to be connected with someone so awesome and yeah that really worked out and the painting we need an explanation of how the painting's back I I know how it's back so the painting is back at Nicki kho oh and I have put it on hold I'm buying it I'm not in town obviously but I'm I'm I told them that I'm buying it so this is what happened I'm pretty sure a designer which I did know a designer came and bought all these an interior designer right and then just probably decorated someone's house yes did an install and then I think think people go through and they go oh I like that I'll keep that ditch that or I only have so much money I'm only going to pick this how much is that painting now this has led me down a road because I am buying it I'm so excited although an in her email said she's working on other Rose abstracts once with specifically me in mind oh my gosh now you're basically commissioning one I know but that's fine I'm going to buy the original I'm going to take a a partner painting that's made for yes and during this process I found another painting I like from a different artist also at Nikki kho this one is more expensive yeah and I'm buying that too so now I'm a art can I tell you something conosur Monsour connoisseur you're a connoisseur of Monsour for sure can I offer one tiny like just check in with yourself okay I don't want you to turn your previous compulsion toward W buying panga to Art like you're making good money but you can't just start buying art every month it's too expensive okay so like have fun dip your toe in the water can I buy this round three you just basically said you're buying three you're buying the one you always wanted the companion piece and then a new one I here I have a different fear uh oh if you're spending that much money on Art we should talk to Ethan and see like what's a good investment certainly you like ones that are also good Investments I don't know if I do I don't know well you don't know cuz you've not gone look you'd want a chagal or you'd want a mandre a mandre I even know what that is yes I do and I I don't want a a fine artist art piece no what you want is the next bosia you want to find some well that seems crazy that you walked into one store and they had two you your mind I'm in the simulation okay okay I like cars and there's there's some I certainly want but I I at least run it through the thing of like oh this is going to depreciate terribly if I buy this other one it's either going to stay neutral or this one might go up there's so many cars out there I can find one that checks both boxes I'm only imploring you to check both boxes I don't have that I don't the hunt I really don't have a future I'm not like what it's going to happen like even with the house yeah you don't think about that it'll be worth more no I mean I I hope it is cuz I'm putting a lot of money in but I don't think about that what I think is like I'm going to be in that house for the rest of my life I'm going to stare at that painting for the rest of my life you know things like I'm not trying to resell sounds like a healthy way to you know I don't know if it is or not but I like do you smell it again a little bit maybe it's in your nose oh God I hope not maybe a far TR oh Jesus oh my gosh we're about to pass University of Utah oh you not UT though when I say UT that's University of Texas or no Tennessee no I think Texas awes I think I think Tennessee oh W anyway I just um I I appreciate everyone and I'm into art now and just to wrap this up everyone just to uh summarize I'm an art collector and I don't care if they're worth more or less because I have convictions okay let's get into facts Alicia okay I bet Alicia has some good art she seems I don't think so she well I do but I think it's like a friend painted it she got it at a like a a farmers market in stock Lea no she seems very Bohemian to me really yeah I think of her very Swedish very like minimalistic very good taste yeah like ball house Scandinavian design oh modern minimalist that's not that's not boho I'm talking b ball house in Berlin B first you said boho you said no I said baj house no first when you said she gets it at farmers markets and stuff oh I said she was very Bohemian yeah that's what that means boho I think oh I've never heard that thanks for teaching that to me I'm pretty sure that's cool do you think Soho is Boho no Soho is south of H I know but do you think the area is Boho Bohemian yes okay so Soo is Boho okay Alicia the screenwriter who wrote exmachina he wrote the novel the beach and did he write other novels yes oh I don't know what happened here I don't see my answers but I do remember looking it up and he has lots of Books Okay final box office of exmachina curious because it was pulled from theaters in Europe because it was underperforming right so domestic was 25 million great chips numbers and that's 69% of its worldwide oh International was 11 million okay so 36 mil yeah worldwide 36 million isn't that funny cuz I think that's around what chips made and I just think of chips as such a disaster I think of X mchina as this like Triumph yeah well you should start thinking of chips as a Triumph okay did you ever do ballet I did yeah tell us I've told it on here a few times which is my mother was advised because it was very evident I was going to be too tall and someone told her like you know he's I think maybe a doctor said you know he's going to be huge B is a great way for a guy to become really coordinated and manage this big lanky body of his my mom said okay so she put me in ballet how old are you seven six this is so mixed messages because you said you could never ever ever have done theater in high school absolutely not then you did ballet but when you're six and seven that's not a thing we haven't gotten into like clicks and jocks and okay so I did it I have no memory of whether I enjoyed it or not at all so I don't know if this is heartbreaking story but regardless I had a recital my mom invited my father oh my father watched it and he said that's that's that that's the end of that so yeah Michigan rears its ugly head there um oh my God I bet you were really good at it and he was worried that you were too good I can't imagine I was all that good at it I was a big clumsy well you I told you it looked like people felt bad for me like when we would have in kindergarten we had this little play and I was was a pig I was in the back I had a you know that was your first role yeah construction paper had Pig yeah and I was in the back like I was not a lead did you have lines I I was supposed to sing in the chorus and I sang so loud my mom says like all the parents were whispering and they were embarrassed for me and they thought like oh my God that guy's supposed to be in third grade like I look like I was supposed to be in third grade I look like a big big dumb dump like just couldn't get out of kindergarten it was in the back yelling it was something about um making the you like you know stirring the pot and making the stew and some something about straw it was oh was it three little pigs it was not Three Little Pigs it was just some kind of musical set at a farm my first role ever was in Taming of the Shrew in fifth grade oh really yeah uh they did it we did three Shakespearean plays well really Romeo and Juliet then they added a couple scenes from timming of the Shrew and a couple scenes from Hamlet okay and I auditioned and I got a part everyone got a part great and my part was the hab aasher oh I love that wording of the Shrew and I said here is the Hat your worship ordered oh that that was your one line they might have been thinking looking at you oh my God they let a baby in this baby must be so smart well then why would they the old hat lady cuz it's so funny to see babies play was a comedy it was like oh wow I know comedy I didn't know that at the time I would have really leaned into some yeah where's my rattle that been so cute if the baby forgot was like I need a nap while I'm sewing what if I just took it what if I just in the middle I just started improvising this whole baby act and then got drowsy and took a little baby nap and I show back up in Romeo and Juliet as a call back is a runner a sleepy baby anyway I OB audition for Juliet okay obviously didn't get it this guy got Juliet oh actually yeah that's a ding ding ding he has a Roy he literally two people just walk by one of them is wearing a Shakespearean tunic yeah okay well this was fun we're at our hotel now okay I love you and we're going to do a live show going to do a live show thanks for listening to this road trip guys yes bye bye [Music]