Aubrey Plaza | Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

hello hello hello welcome to armchair expert I'm Dak Shepard I'm miniature Mouse in Michigan woo Maxima Michigan for miniature Mouse we're sitting on a couch in Monica's hotel room wobby wobs in a much more comfortable chair than us Aubrey Plaza is our guest today you know her from Parks and Recreation Child's Play Dirty Grandpa and currently Legion final season of Legion on FX returning June 24th child's play in theaters on June 21st um I adore Aubrey she's made us laugh a katrillion times she did she's a special lady and uh a really funny talk show uh guest I do encourage people to go down a rabbit hole of just watching her on late night talk shows she's had a really interesting life she really has yes so please enjoy Aubrey Plaza [Music] [Music] you know what's great what you already started with a chip on your shoulder I always have my I guess that's kind of if I attack first then Aubrey thank you so much for coming in you were here half hour late and I'm sure that couldn't have possibly help I'm sorry I'm sorry we were on time but you were a half hour early M and so that certainly could have helped with the chip God I hate being early I like to be a good 10 minutes late oh 10 minutes L okay now we on this show talk a lot about people with misophonia what's a misophonia yes it like misia honia yes but it's a it's a genetic no it's a couple photographs boy you really you really have your guard up look at this panicking I kind of like it you do yeah it's kind of interesting well I was watching a bunch of clips of Aubrey before we came here and you guys have a similar thing and that you're both funny and cute but you're [ __ ] brats like you're both brats that's pretty much I just don't want to do anything tells me yes and and and then Monica will go a step further she will yell at her parents at full volume at like 31 in storm up to her room and shut it goes to my mommy or my daddy that's true that is true anyways people have misophonia they get I don't know what do they get nauseous they get very angry they get irrationally angry when they hear people chewing food before this I would have said that's horseshit you're just an intolerant person but on 23 and me if you go get 23 and me it'll tell you if you have the genetic marker for misoon it's a real genetic thing so I've become much more 23 maybe I should look yes see if you have misop well I know you don't cuz you were just chewing into the microphone and it didn't bother you I have an ASMR kind of thing where I kind of like sounds like that you do like ASMR will you watch those YouTube videos mhm do you have a favorite I like ASMR darling she does a a lot of like oh rubbing her fabric like like she'll try on different like clothes she'll be like this one is like really soft oh wow feels like this and do you experience the Euphoria people talk about that love ASMR it's not like a euphoric reaction for me it's more just like a transy like cuz I have like a thing I do with my hair where I've done this before but like I make a loop and then I make this sound oh but I do it in my ear like all day long it's like a selfit thing but it's like I like little sounds like that well tell me if you like this first of all can you please close your eyes for one second this is what I think it sounds like when people walk through a forest okay I guess do you know what it was no e it's my beard I don't like that sick it's similar to your hair thing it's quite similar it's pretty much the same do you think because you're generating that noise you like it and then when I generate it it's sick mhm that's what you think's going on no I like it okay I just don't want you to know I like it I don't know if I've ever had anyone here that appeared appeared I'm saying appeared in quotes to not want to be here as much I do I'm so happy to be here what are you talking about okay tell your face I like it a lot you're from Delaware most people that I meet when they find out I'm from Delaware say like well you're the first person I've ever met from Delaware and I'm like you know what I've heard that a lot yeah and you know what I wanted to tell you that and then I thought maybe she's heard that a lot yeah Mom is a lawyer mhm which in 1984 I think that's pretty cool is she a lawyer then when you were born no my parents are really young they had me when they were 20 and they both came from nothing so they both like you know hustled their way through the 80s and Well your dad's Puerto Rican yeah yeah he's Puerto Ric he's not he wasn't born in Puerto Rico oh his parents were but he was not so okay he was born in Philly so he grew up in Philly so he would fulfill my Philly stereotype more than my oh yeah yeah okay what what is that Philly's like uh let's get a cheese steak uh you know it's kind of tough it's almost New York it's like you know any I doing it I don't know yeah sure that's my family is that exactly what your dad sounds like uh yeah now he was from Philly was mom also no my mom is from Delaware she grew up in Delaware and then they met at Westchester University which is in p they both worked at Wawa my mom was a manager at Wawa what's Wawa oh my go you don't know about WWA no that's what children will call water sometimes like babies my Wawa yeah exactly I want my Wawa Wawa's like a gas station like mini kind of okay like a like a Circle K A 7eleven yeah it's like a 7-Eleven but but it's like a very sacred version of that um in the area where I grew up like people are really obsessed with WWA like coffee WWA iced tea WWA sandwiches um lot lots of things happen in the parking lot at Wawa I was just going to say in high school did you guys chill at the WWA parking lot oh yes oh yeah yeah and since I grew up there now there's super wahas really big kind of like wahas on crack that's just the little Thrills of Delaware yeah I gr up and Wilmington which is like the northernmost city in Delaware it's the only town that has a city city uhh and it's the biggest one it's not the capital but it's the biggest one most of the people live up there Delaware you can drive through the whole esap from top to bottom in 2 hours and like once you get out of Wilmington you start getting into like Rural Farms but it's all along the coast so it's like a very weird mix of chicken farms and the beach in all the beach towns where everyone gets like crazy like a spring Breaky type oh yeah okay with the Jersey Shore flavor it's not like the Jersey Shore it's like a different vibe it's a little more closer to like Maryland like Ocean City city all the kids go down to the beach like every summer and oh yeah just dewy it that's what people said oh just Dey it I like that and what kind of high school student were you you were like class president M so you were outgoing I presume right you have to be outgoing to be the class president yeah I went to an all girls catholic school and I was very busy all the time very into a lot of clubs intrinsically motivated or you were College Bound and wanted extra ccal things on your resume I think it was a little bit of both I guess I was in the um 4 program you were yeah so I you had cattle or or chickens no that's the thing about 4 is that people project this agricultural agenda on you know um but I I grew up outside of the city so we focus on community service I started that club when I was 8 years old so from very early on I was always like very busy doing stuff that's almost like a kind of like joining girl scouts or something yeah it's like Girl Scouts but Girl Scouts like suck and Girl Scouts are the enemy I'm uh I think a missing thrope at heart my wife has opened my eyes to a lot of things and I now am way more available to help with things but certainly not in high school I could have given a [ __ ] about helping anybody so I'm just curious you were naturally drawn to helping people or you were drawn to someone being proud of you for having done that I was just thrown in very early into a very intense Club where my 4 Leader was really really hard on us oh okay so it was just like what I did we would have these project books that we would have to finish every year that were really insane like by the time I graduated high school I racked up thousands and thousands of hours of community service it was just like part of my and did you enjoy it yeah yeah I still do I went back to Delaware two weeks ago and did a community service project with the local forage Club really so I think you're maybe just nice I also grew up kind of like in a very very Catholic kind of environment my school that I went to the motto is which means to serve in Latin that was just my upbringing you serve you help and do you think in retrospect are you grateful you went to an all girl school I imagine there's pros and cons to that I mean I liked it it's not for everyone like my middle sister did not go to ursul and she decided to go to co-ed school oh so you could have chosen I could have chosen to go to the co-ed School in Delaware there's a lot of private schools cuz the public school system is kind of a wreck there and so there's like a ton of private schools and different options and stuff I went to ursin since fourth grade and so like after Middle School it was like you decide if you want to stay or if you want to leave and I liked it so I stayed but Natalie didn't stay yeah and then my other sister stayed right and they were cool with that bernardet and Dave oh yeah and bernardet was a lawyer she had you at 20 and she became a lawyer she's a pretty impressive human being yeah both of my parents came from like nothing that my dad grew up in like a pretty bad neighborhood in Philly and they you know they didn't have any money and when I was born you know we lived in like a one-bedroom apartment in that area and you know my dad kind of Wolf of Wall Street style like got into like the stock market and stuff he like didn't even graduate college he became a Trader and I mean that as a stock Trader not like a stock he works for Mary Lynch with a t d oh he worked for maril Lynch he works for Mary Lynch still I think that that mentality was like burned into my brain you know what's so weird is once you said Philly I was like Bradley Cooper's from Philly Cooper yeah yeah yeah and his dad worked for maril Lynch as well me and Bradley have so much I know I'm just sitting here thinking you guys have so much in common but he became successful at that yeah he he he my dad yeah oh yeah he's crushing it he's a real go-getter he is he's a charmer okay he's a hustler my mom has eight brothers and sisters oh my goodness when she was 8 years old her mom my grandmother had like a mental breakdown and her dad died and the five of them that were under 18 went to an orphanage in Newcastle Delaware and it was a very bad orphanage it was run by these corrupt nuns that were very abusive and it was a bad situation and my mom's third grade teacher fell in love with my mom and wanted to adopt my mom and take her out of the orphanage but my mom had four brothers and sisters with her and was like I can't leave my brothers and sisters so this woman Dorothy she adopted all five of them no way yes and then her and her husband had their own four biological kids oh my gosh so then they were nine again and D was pregnant with her last biological kid when my mom was pregnant with me CU my mom was so young and so I was like raised by my parents obviously but like also byma my foster grandparents so I was kind of like thrown into this other kind of foster situation and my aunt bridg your technically my aunt but I'm a month older than her but we grew up kind of like sisters and I was kind of grew up in that household a lot they were the ones that put me in the 4 program like it wasn't like my parents that did that it was like I got you you know cuz they were working and so my foster grandparents raised me a lot so I was kind of like thrown in with all these like super Irish Catholic kids I went to competitive Irish dancing lessons as a kid but you know I'm Irish jig or the real River Dance River Dance competitive River Dance and you did it oh yeah did you enjoy that um sure no I don't know I mean I wasn't very good I was it was a very strange kind of thing you know cuz I'd be like doing River Dance and then I would go to like my dad's family and there'd be like Sal dancing in the kitchen you know those are very different kinds of dancing River Dance you're not supposed to move your arms it's a very like awkward you just move your legs and then and then I would go to these competitions they're called feses and I would wear like the traditional thing and there'd be like leprechauns and you know like scary uhhuh okay so good so Monica was nervous that the leprechaun is a bit dicey for Irish people is that what it was no we were talking about approp cultural appropriation on Cinco de Mayo which I didn't really understand I was like are we appropriating on St Patrick's Day and I said no that's not appropriation cuz it's about leprechauns you said which I don't know I think everyone's still pretending they're Irish that day everyone's pretending to have the Luck of the Irish I don't know when you would bounce back and forth between the Irish side and then dad's Puerto Rican Family were you drawn to one more than the other I would say the Puerto Ricans were definitely more I don't know I'm very much like classic older child very split down the middle mom dad but I would say like I feel very connected to the Puerto Rican side but I'm very Irish too I mean there's just a lot of alcohol on both sides a lot of like now back to the all girls high school were you bummed out there was no guys there I actually liked not having guys there because it's just like a distraction you know but I think looking back on it now it probably did color my interactions because guys to me were like thinking about one thing you know cuz like there was one class in the morning that you could take where we would swap with our brothers school it was like AP English everyone wanted to get into that class cuz there was like guys in the class I never got into that class but you know I would walk in the hallway and look through the window grab a little peek there they are yeah and like you know so I'm definitely like probably [ __ ] up by them well Z I had one experience where I went with a friend who went to this school St Mary's which was all boys Catholic School my friend J rob he took me as a guest one day and what I was immediately uh struck by was that the dude did not comb their hair they they hadn't showered dudes farted in class openly animals totally and without trying to be attractive to women there was like nothing like uh bridling their behavior yeah which at one time was kind of cool and then at another time like this is a good Yin and Yang because look at these [ __ ] slobs [ __ ] their pants in class and hitting each other brother school that I went to I think they had a little more class Maybe Mar was a little more like you know if you were a Sally's guy you were you were held up to a you know a kind of standard uhuh and it was called the Sally guy well sanum is the name of the school but we would call him like Sally do you know Neil Casey at all he's a comedian writer he's out here but he was my best friend growing up and he went to Sally and we grew up together I would witness in my public high school that like girls that were super funny would sometimes store that in their locker when they were around like whatever guy they wanted to be around as they downplayed that they were smart or they downplayed all these weird things so in that respect like obviously I have two daughters and I think about like the value of either scenario and one aspect feels like it seems like you'd be more readily to be yourself if I had girls I would totally consider signing them to an all girl school like yeah cuz I went to NYU for college and I went to film school which at the time was very male-dominated as well and then I did comedy which is very male dominated I was always in these like very male-dominated environments after I graduated and I always noticed in class none of these girls are like raising their hand they're not and I was always the outspoken one just giving my opinions when I was immediately labeled as this like [ __ ] that you know saying what I thought about these guys shitty short films that they were making or something but I was just saying my opinion I didn't care but I did feel like wow I wonder if I gone to like a different school if I would be like them where I just not saying what I thought were you into comedy in high school in a way that you actually thought oh I might want to do comedy as an adult yeah you did I was always watching Saturday Night Live and then I would watch kids in the hall and like sketch comedy Mr show things like that and then I figured out like oh these people came from improv background then I got really into like the operate Citizens Brigade show and so I started taking improv classes in high school you did the first improv class I ever took was in high school was in Philly but it was like short form Improv Comedy Sports those more like games and stuff really quick how close is Del to Philadelphia oh was like 20 minutes oh it is yeah where I grew up I was 25 minutes like South of Philly so I was right on the border and then so you were what like an hour and a half from New York City by train 2 hours drive oh wow in your mind Monica where is Delaware I I am really good at geography I'd have to say and I'm to be honest it's like nestled right you know under Jersey and Pennsylvania how far from Maryland hour oh my goodness this is so centrally located everyone should live great location it is secret yeah secret yeah how far from the Poconos if you wanted to go west I don't know like the two hours maybe oh my goodness everything you'd want to do is within 2 hours wow mhm this is really something I'm really interested in Delaware now okay so you obviously would go to New York City and you would go to Philly you would do these things and you were like yes I want to be here and I want to do comedy and you took improv were you the only gal in high school taking improv at Comedy Sports or yes I was yeah I mean my graduating class was 42 girls so okay was it adults taking those classes yeah it was yeah was it weird yeah my mind just goes to some of those first level classes that people are taking and it's like the guy at the office maybe who has a whoopy cushion and he's like I'm built for this and then I imagine now that guy with like a 15-year-old girl and I'm nervous cuz it's impro you see where I'm going uh-huh yeah was any of that happening yeah boy it was a lot of like I have a really bad memory but I do kind of remember there was a lot of like Librarians who were trying to like find their voice and like there was like people there for different reasons I remember that going like wow some of these adults like aren't actually even into comedy they're like doing this as some kind of therapy yeah yeah as a way some out of their shell or something right yeah and then like they had an improv group called The Rubber Chickens at University of Delaware once Neil went to college and I was still in high school like I would go down there and like watch those improv shows and then like very aware of that stuff early on so me going to New York was definitely yes I wanted to go to film school but I was like I wanted UCB now like there's something cool about knowing what you're into as you're defining who you are as an adult yeah feeling like you have a real purpose yeah I mean I'm so lucky that I had that that's the thing I think I feel sorry is for people they don't even know what they love yeah did you have boyfriends in high school mhm you did yeah I mean not like that many did you guys have a prom we would have to invite people to our prom and then Sally would invite this to their prom and then oh so you probably you probably hit up a couple proms multiple proms do you thrive in that scenario I um I always was like doing weird [ __ ] at proms I had a thing where I would dress up like Mary wool stonecraft who's Mary woolstone craft she's like the first feminist ever from England she was like started feminism I would have like weird obsessions with weird historical figures and then I would dress like them you know I was always doing like kind of performance Arty things like humiliating myself public was like a theme growing up for me and like proms I would treat as kind of jokes for my junior prom I did a lot of Community Theater also that had nothing to do with my school I met this Swedish exchange student there and I was like wouldn't it be so funny to take the Swedish guy to prom who can't speak English and so I did that but then I actually ended up falling in love with him and hated him who learned to speak which language did you learn Swedish or did he learn English both oh a little mix of both a little both oh no he was like very good at English by the time prom rolled around oh okay was he 7 feet tall and Viking looking he wasn't 7 feet tall but he was stunningly gorgeous and he didn't know how hot he was because he was Swedish and I was definitely like why is he into me I am not up to this level at all I had a very similar experience where I went to a Halloween party we had a German exchange students at our school school and one of the German exchange students was like this 6ot tall goddess and all the guys in my school were obsessed with that girl and I didn't even think hey I don't speak German and we were at this Halloween party and this gal found me in the [ __ ] laundry room and got me up against the walls there making out with me and I was just blown away by the whole experience and I thought oh for whatever reason how she's looks not not being perceived the same way it is in my high school yeah no I mean Johan was like he had no idea no idea isn't that wonderful and such a great sense of humor I really click with the Scandinavian humor very dry very dark Twisted uhhuh how long were you in Yan on a thing for like that entire year kind of really and he eventually went back to Sweden yeah I have a whole yeah you have a whole what nothing what I know he's dead no He's Alive okay no he's alive it's a Never Ending Story with the Johan it is it's not over well sure it's over he's married and has two kids now but once we found each other he hated Delaware too he was so bored and you know I had a car and once we hooked up it was just like oh yeah like this is my summer us driving into the woods and doing stuff in the woods yeah yeah oral sex in the woods oh great summer that's wonderful great summer yeah I learned a lot I learned a lot my understanding that the sweds are I heard this on Dan Savage's podcast Savage love the swed allow teens to cohabitate yes they do they do well cuz I the next summer I visited him in Sweden at what age was 17 I think were your Catholic parents not a little worried about all this I don't know why they let me go but they did the first thing I remember going there his parents were like and you will sleep with you on and I was like uhhuh yes I will and you will have oral sex with you H yeah you sleep you I was like okay sounds good but my parents didn't know that please don't listen to this were you like a unicorn to them his dad Leonard I just remember being in the house I would like look down the hall and Leonard would be staring at me down the hall the fantasy I've created is you're kind of like one of the Adams family members that showed up in Sweden yeah like their Viking son brought back yeah it was like the dark Puerto Rican jungle like like yeah this is so exciting for everyone involved and they can drink right could you could you like drink beer and stuff I mean I don't remember anything that happened that trip I was so drunk and I just remember barfing multiple times like all the time I hope it didn't impede the oral sex that that that kept up right but I want to hear more about the Saga the whole Love Story yeah yeah me too the brief version is the Saga is just the Saga in my mind because we never technically broke up it wasn't like a relationship where it was like okay and now we break up because we want to break up it was more just we just can't be together we're kids and program's over but that's tricky cuz there's there's no closure closure so 10 years later I had this idea when I was on Hiatus parks and wck I was like maybe there's like a movie there you know it's like that thing where it's like the one that got away like what would happened maybe Johan and I should still be together you know and I had just ended a relationship and I was in an in between state so I was like you know [ __ ] it I'm going to go to Sweden and like see what's going on over there yeah and I did you did oh yeah and he was already with the woman he now is married to he had just moved in with a woman that he is now married to this was a while ago I don't know Johan I would be very stressed out if I were Johan mhm and you showed up it was funny because I I made an itinerary for myself and I was like I'm going to go there and just write this is going to be my own like Eat Pray Love kind of thing and I was like whether he's there or not I'm going at that time there wasn't Instagram or I don't think there was Facebook but he wasn't really active on social media or anything but he did have an account and I did send him a message and say hey I'm going to be passing through your homet on a work trip um if you're there I'd love to see you but if not no worries I didn't hear from him until 2 days before I flew to gothamberg which is where he lived and I didn't know that he was even there until 2 days before I went there and he had looked at the message and said like oh my God I am still here I can't believe it I would love to see you let's go to dinner and I was like oh my God like the movie is happening in real life yes and so I went to gothamberg yeah and then I saw him well the [ __ ] up thing was that we didn't have that much communication it was like very like brief text messages like I will meet you at this time at this hotel but whatever I had no idea what to expect and then I came down into the lobby and he was standing there with a girl and I was like please be a sister please be a sister um cuz I remember he had a sister and he's like this is my girlfriend and I was like what a standup guy and she was like what are you doing here in Sweden and I was like nothing nothing at all but yeah he he really went through it had a real existential yes I'd be so flattered that you're still thinking about me that's really something he's at a point where he's about to move in with a gal he probably has his own anxiety about that oh yeah oh this is so but he might have been thinking about her this whole time too that's what I think I think that too and also can I add this element you'll hate this element but I'm going to add it anyways you're an actress on a TV show at that point yes yes now okay so I have a similar story so I met Jenny Hazelton in Killington Vermont met in 11th grade and she went back to England I went back to Detroit we wrote letters and everything and then she fell in love with a rugby player and then I went and hung out with her and the rugby player and she chose so right this guy was such a beautiful stud but if she became a star and then just showed up in my hometown that would throw me for a goddamn Loop yeah at that point I was on Parks and Rec but it no one was watching it our ratings were [ __ ] and in America maybe I was like famous but I was like globally you what was funny is after I saw him on that trip I took a train to Stockholm and I went and saw damy Po's brother who lives Stockholm and at the time he was writing his TV show that he was going to shoot and he wrote me into his show oh based on that trip and so then I flew back to Sweden like two more times to be on a Swedish television show oh my goodness the new girlfriend must have thought that you were orchestrating a fullon two war that show I play myself and I place myself who is stalking someone in Sweden oh yes so it became this really [ __ ] up thing where I was like well if they didn't know I was an actress then they know now because that show got the highest ratings in Sweden ever or something wow it was like the most oh my goodness this man you may have ruined his whole life ah he's fine he has kids now though he has two kids that'll help are they are they cool and sweeten with a little Hanky Panky on the side you know you know what's funny is like I think that that is actually something that is like projected on to them culturally in my experience I find them the women anyway a little little more conservative and maybe it's just me but I always felt like their thing about American girls were like we were like [ __ ] or something and like I always thought like oh but like Swedish girls are probably like having thre Sims and all this stuff but like actually I think I was looked at as the [ __ ] one cuz Americans are writing stories about Swedish people being promiscuous I think there's that but I also think there's more sexual presentation here which doesn't actually translate to more sex so like every girl's wearing mini skirts in high school that doesn't mean they're [ __ ] but if you're Swedish it certainly has the appearance of being hypersexualized even if it's not I guess the Swedish girls that I was around always felt to me like they were a little bit more actually conserved and more buttoned up or something right what they are for sure is super Progressive in Sweden yeah and I guess I just I associate relaxed stance on monogamy with progress right which is probably just my own they also really like look down on weed oh they do yeah oh weed is bad like shameful kind of oh which is interesting it is I I only went to Sweden once and it was about 18 years ago 20 years ago they had just enacted a bunch of legislation to try to curb alcohol consumption so like vodka became very expensive like the taxes on vodka were outrageous that in and of itself was like I have this idea of what this place is but obviously if the government's having to do this it's not Utopia the way I'm imagining it [Music] no stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare [Music] I'm not even going to dance around this any longer I'm going to come right at it what have you seen the prestige what's that about magic yeah the movie about magicians Christopher Nolan movie with Batman Christian Bell Christian Bell the message of the movie was to be a perfect magician you have to live the act so the very best magicians and Christian Bell was the best at this he lived his stage Persona through his whole life and I've always had this feeling about you I came to know you on Parks you're super funny incredibly incredibly funny seen you on a bazillion talk shows you're a great talk show guest I've met you at restaurants and I thought is she the character she is on TV and on talk shows it's hard for me to navigate I want to know is there a side to you that is open and vulnerable or look you're you're getting so mad at me I am not okay or is like this story about yoan is so sweet I'm trying to imagine you being vulnerable enough to have taken that whole ride I'm the most vulnerable I'm a puddle you are I don't know what you're talking about you know what your comedy voice triple cancer like I can't cry enough okay I'm so romantic are you oh my God I just don't show my cards I don't even know how to do that on talk shows I don't even know what people are talking about literally every time I do a talk show backstage I'm like this time I'm going to be normal just happy and I just blow it every time I'm not like trying to like do anything you got nervous when I said you're a great talk show guest you're objectively you're a great talk show guest you don't get to come back to Conan 20 times if you're not great you don't go to Letterman in particular you don't go several times unless you're great I always feel like with Letterman I feel like he just wanted to talk about my medical problems because he was so obsessed interested in it as well and then with Conan it's like I think in my mind I'm like well maybe early on I was just like so weird that people are just like waiting for me to say something weird or something so then it's like this weird process that like feeds on itself cuz I'm like I'm not doing on purpose I don't know what people want from me and then I'm like well you got to give them what they want sure but what is it and then I don't even know the thing that I respect about you I admire the confidence in bravery to be subtle and patient and let the thing build to when it's supposed to explode I don't think I personally could handle that much downtime I just don't give me so much credit because honestly I just feel like up here I am on the hamster wheel spr it's just that I I don't know what it is I have like mini um well you're going to say it but that would have brought up your medical condition were you going to say mini strokes no I don't know I'm like silence is power I don't know what it is there's so unnatural those situations but like I have the same Instinct too I'm like I got to be funny like I come from a comedy background so I'm like if I'm not funny I'm failing and then I watch people like Tom Hanks and those people and I'm just like they're so relaxed and comfortable they don't give a [ __ ] about being funny they're just themselves why can't I be like that that's what I think about before I go on those shows right like I genuinely am like can I just relax and just be normal like why I have to be funny all the time but I always feel bad about myself after oh you do yes always oh my God you're so good at no well again you're just going to have to defer to the facts they keep inviting you back so it's not like you're not in on the joke and they're having you repeatedly to laugh at you like they're not let's get her on here again that's how I feel though I feel like every time is a setup I feel like every time an opportunity for them to just wait for me to go off the rails you know but I will not drink and you know just keep my eye on the prize now yes no one's going to get me right but like I understand that you're not an egomaniac but also I want you to acknowledge your skill set which is you're very consistently pulling the rabbit out of the Hat even after that moment of awkwardness you say the perfect thing but I don't think it always works out for me sometimes I feel like it's awkward yeah but don't you think that's kind of your special brand of Comedy I don't know I don't know what it is well it's working and you are able to do it on command all right you get hired to do [ __ ] and then you deliver well we'll see how Chucky goes okay okay so now when you started doing improv did you have a similar comedic Persona is you have now no you didn't no I was not known at ucbs the sarcastic ey rolly eye roller no I was just doing characters like everybody else right well your breakout role is Parks and rack were you're very much that the thing that solidified that first was a web series called the genie Tate Show which is this web series that Maggie Cary did with Liz Kowski I met Maggie Cary in an improv class and she was like I'm doing this web series I need someone that can play a teenager I was like 22 or something maybe not even so she cast me as this sulky teenager yeah and the whole premise was that Jeanie Tate was a soccer mom that was running a talk show from her minivan while she was doing errands and she would have real celebrities on she had Bill hater on as a guest she had rashita Jones on she would like pick my character up from rehab and I'd be like I hate you Mom and like Rashida Jones would be like who's that and I'd be like [ __ ] you like what ever that was the first time that I ever played a character like that and then yeah Parks really quick what's the order of funny people in Parks I got funny people first but Parks ended up airing before funny people was released in theaters the first movie I ever did was called mystery team which was Donald Glover and his sketch group that was called Derek comedy I was the female lead in that independent feature film every comedian in that movie it's bizarre it's like uh this generation's of Wet Hot American Summer totally and while I was shooting that I got the audition for funny people so Donald helped me me with my self tape he literally was like playing Seth's character and doing my lines and that's how I got a chemistry read with Seth Rogan then I flew out to LA to do a chemistry read are you nervous as [ __ ] at that or yes well basically I sent in the self tape cuz I didn't even have an agent or anything but then I heard like oh Jud really liked your tape but he needs to see you do standup because the character is a stand-up comedian and they're going to be shooting standup shows and like it needs to be a person that's doing standup and I was like oh great yeah I'll send in my stand-up tape but I was not a stand-up comedian so I pretended to do standup I wrote like five minutes of standup and had someone film me at Donald Glover's Open Mic standup show in Queens and then I sent that tape in like the first time I ever did standup just sent that tape in and then based on that I got the chemistry read oh my gosh and then I came out to LA for one week and while I was out here for that and yes I was so nervous like Beyond nervous I hadn't really ever been to LA and then Allison Jones was casting that and because she knew I was there for that she was like hey do you mind if I send you on a couple other meetings while you're here and I was like no I don't care like whatever you want yeah so then she sent me to meet Mike Sher and Greg Daniels on just like a general meeting because they hadn't even written the pilot for Parks yet uhuh and then she sent me to audition for Edgar Wright for Scott Pilgrim versus the world this is not possible it is possible it's not possible and I got all three of them that doesn't happen to any human being I know did it not feel insane well no cuz I didn't know how important these meetings were like when I went to see Mike sh and Greg Daniel all I cared about at the time was like oh my God I'm on the side of the office and I would see like Mindy Kaling walk by or something and I'd be like oh my God and I was like wearing jean shorts like I was like a tourist do you think maybe that was to your advantage of course yeah you were a pagee right at NBC yeah I was an intern at SNL before I was a pagee for a season I was an intern in the design Department I worked for the set designer I was the only intern in my department because on SNL there's four set designers uhhuh and um they have one intern okay and they're all insane these set designers they had been there since the first show since 1975 these older dudes that are like grumpy and whatever we were in like our bubble they gave me a camera and they're like you have to go like during dress rehearsal and take photos of all the sets like doent all this [ __ ] I was like a ninja you know like lurking in the shadows so I would watch everyone but I didn't interact with any of the cat I would have been so excited to have access to that stage I had stared at my whole life it was the best time in my life well it must have been oh yeah and I would get to go to the parties you know the After parties because they thought that I was an employee they didn't realize I was an intern because I looked official walking around with the camera kind of sure so I would go to like the After parties and yeah I was a black and then I was a page the after that after I graduated college I had like one page friend her name was Meg Ryan and she was in Sleepless in Seattle she was I just always like saying her full name because her name was Meg Ryan but she she was like a weird kind of witchy freak like me uhhuh and we were both like the weird Outcast cuz most of the pages were former sorority presidents right that's kind of weird I would think all the SNL pages and intrance would be so comedy like no maybe the I just mean in the page program in general in general the page yeah when you're a page if you're like really good you get assignments and like the SNL assignment is like the coveted one I didn't even get an assignment if you don't get assignments you're just giving tours every hour oh of Rockefeller yes so that's what I was doing giving tours I loved it it was like a performance it was like you know waiting tables which I did also a lot it's like every new table is a new opportunity for performance right I treated it like that now um can I go back to Donald Glover for one second yeah because I think it's Monica and I's biggest shared obsession is probably we want to get him on so badly he's our number one I just think he's the coolest I think Atlanta is such a great show like maddeningly great I'm jealous when I watch it and then I watch this is America and I'm like oh you're also sexy as [ __ ] you've got like the Swagger of Lenny kravits oh cool you can rap really well the song's great it's directed perfectly it what a message all of it youngest writer on 30 Rock you know all the accolades and seemingly not a piece of [ __ ] I love him when you were with him did you like did you have a sense that that capacity existed with him or did you just seem like an enthusiastic young kid into comedy like all of us you're not Sur he's a mega star you know we were in class at film school together I didn't know that did you ever kiss him together yeah oh my God it's so wonderful are you guys the same age yeah we are my God in case people didn't hear yes she kissed it oh I would love to kiss him see it in the movie screen on the movie screen okay okay I'll leave it at that I would had a crush on him did you have a crush on him yeah yeah he's very charismatic yeah no we've always chemistry other yeah totally totally like I'm not ruling out you in 10 years popping over to whatever City he's living in I just feel like there might be an undercurrent of that I really like him I like him so much I like him too I have a question cuz I think some slow or like aggressively does he make you like does he just pause for one second before it happens so that you're dying brother I don't know okay no your internship how did you get that you just applied because I know people are like you know it was like a really crazy story where I literally faxed my resume to like the number of the design Department never heard anything then the Friday of their season premiere show I was in my apartment in the East Village doing nothing and I got a phone call from SNL and from the like coordinator from the design department and she was like hi we got your resume we just fired our intern and we really were looking for someone are you available to come in an interview and I was like yes and she was like can you come now and I was like yes so I got on the train and went up to 30 Rock and in a matter of like an hour I was standing on Studio 8 and Ben Ben Affleck was hosting season premiere and I was like staring at Ben AFF going like how the [ __ ] did I get here and She interviewed me walked me around it was like a scene out of movie and then she was like well thank you so much for coming and I was like thank you so much and then I left the 30 Rock building and while I walked out of the building she called me again and went so you're hired would you come back now and I was like what yes I will and then that was it and then you spent the night with Ben a and then I spent the night with Ben Affleck and then I was there the whole season 2004 2005 season I believe it was the last season that Tina was the head writer wow golden a what a life it was crazy I never went to class I don't know how I graduated college I I just stopped going to colle I just was there all the time it was now you went to film School were you on a director path were you on an actor yeah I was on a directing like writing path do you wanted to be a performer no yes but when I was in high school I had an acting coach in Philly who who was like don't study acting in college study something else and I've always been really obsessed with movies I had like a Judy Garland Obsession growing up so like I would kind of go back and forth from like comedies and then I would watch Judy Garland movies my taste was like all over the place but I worked at a video store called classic video once I got the job there that's when I was exposed to independent film I remember I started to see Independent films and go like oh this is like like a whole thing yeah like a vidiots type that it had that kind of collection it it was smaller and the porn section was actually the larger section and what were those interactions with those guys like they were so ashamed probably right girls um oh sorry yeah there were women man I I it was interesting that was like the part of the job that was like scary because I would have to go put the you know put in the room or the men are women but the fun thing was that I could look up in my system all porn movies that people in my community were were renting it was like when people buy condoms and they buy like gum and like it would buy like other movies and then just like throw another one in there yeah but I can't imagine anything making me more uncomfortable than being like my age is an a you know an adult male with a family going to grab a adult film and then having a teenage female check me out you love it you would love it no I would be I would be so you like it you like it so much you want to go back in time and rent a porno from me that's an interesting power Dynamic that you can take this person who normally has the power in society a white male you're a teen female and they're doing this activity that is intrinsically embarrassing and then the power shifts it does a 180 I guess the covers to those DVDs were blank so it wasn't like they're sliding a thing that was like yeah like you know but I knew what it was so it was like no I was just as embarrassed as they were you didn't sense the power shift no cuz it was creepy now I as a young man would pop my head in there there was a curtain in my town video store I mean it's very shaming I mean there the fact that you've got to enter this yeah yeah and I would oh I remember what it smelled like too I just remember that no no sorry smell like of course not it's not a it's not a coin operated no it was just was like a carpet smell anyway I would pop in there and then I'd be in there which was fantastic I would like glance at all the covers and then I'd have a panic about exiting I'm like oh someone going to be standing right there it was a whole thing you know yeah like a big part of my psychological there's a lot going on yeah kids don't have to do that anymore or people right right they they don't have to worry about that no it's like for hems it's just all in the privacy of your own computer yeah okay last question on and out I promise did you think you ever observed someone coming in for a porno saw you it was like [ __ ] this I'm just multiple times multiple times like a family member friend of a family yeah not people that I knew but some people are just chicken out I could tell yes 100% I could tell well what you see it in the as you pointed out it's very similar to buying condoms I'll see kids crossing that area like four times confused and I'm like I just buy this [ __ ] kid some rubbers or something you know I never minded doing that but I got a bang out of like your thing about going to the prom with the [ __ ] Swedish guy you like causing I did now we would call it an interruptor is that the term say that yeah so I would like to be an interruptor i an interruptor yeah for people to be like going hm I've not had this experience and now now I'm going to see something new I think maybe that was my ultimate goal is like yes you're going to see someone break out of their pattern and have to deal with this really bizarre situation yes like my exgirlfriend and I in high school Carrie we'd go into a 7-Eleven and we would get in screaming matches in 7 and then she would storm out and I'd yell at her and like what we were really saying is that we were like involved in an abusive relationship yeah I did that all the time you did oh my God yes yes really gotten along yeah why did we want to do that because you just feel alive it's like you're like cloak we're all going to die what are we doing here we're animals we're humans like what is this normal about this yes like why are we pretending this is normal there was that for me and then there was also to I I was very obsessed with which of all these rules do I actually have to follow that was a big preoccupation of mine because when you're 12 you're like oh you do this this and then and then as you start getting older and you kind of start breaking some of these rules and you're like oh maybe I'm not going to do it this way maybe I'm not going to go to college maybe I'm not going to I was just playing with what rules are real and so I liked going and raising a Ruckus to find out like was that the limit I mean I still think about things like in that way and sometimes I have to remind myself hey break out of break some rules you know pay attention a little bit yeah can I tell you something really gross I used to do with Kristen we'd be on a walk and if I had gas mhm I'd walk ahead of her like 30 ft and as I would cross someone walking I would fart as loud as I could so that she could observe their reaction that's romantic that's so sweet she loved it I loved it I'll even argue the person who heard the fart loved it because they didn't smell it they were moving and I was moving but it's funny when you hear a human being fart loud everyone gets nervous it's a high pressure situation mhm you know I don't know I think it's like a sweet thing that you want to make her laugh but I'm not really into farting no well most people aren't again which is why it's so funny to watch someone else's reaction having heard a very loud public fart Nick Offerman and Chris Pratt would fart so loud and so much when we were shooting parks and R and it would make me and Amy so angry really yeah cuz we both feel the same way where we were always like we don't think it's funny right right right but like it was funny but maybe because I didn't grow up with like guys in my class or like a thing and so but they man they would just do that all the time yeah so yeah speaking of like a Donald Glover you were on parks with Chris Pratt and then he became this massive massive massive movie star I know crazy is that I can't believe it yeah how do I say this I wouldn't have predicted it not cuz I don't think he's hyper talented I just would have thought oh he's too nice to be like I just felt like maybe you got to be a dick to be a mega movie star in some way there's like a levels you know don't you feel like the ones that are really really mega mega are actually like nice sometimes there's like another like level below that where it's like you're Mega famous but you're like a dick if you're like hang or Clooney or something you're you're like in another level because it's like actually that's the thing yes and be nice you can be very benevolent at all times and it's like people are drawn to that I I just think if you're an [ __ ] you can only get so far if you're like an actor you're on a show movie or whatever you're affecting people's lives like your energy all got to be groovy man like those things are spiritual experiences at least in my opinion it's like to treat it sacred it's like we're all doing this together yes I felt compelled to go back to the fart thing for a second we need to do only only I wanted to clarify one thing I actually could never ever do what Chris and um Nick Nick did like fart I could never fart at my work I would be so embarrassed I want everyone at work to think I'm cute and and and attractive but Str like that didn't start until like you know season six what like it wasn't like right away they're like blasting us okay but like I just want to be clear that like I I can do that in front of a complete stranger walking down the street that I hope I'll never see again I understand Monica and I have been friends for 5 and a half years now and I just the other day farted for the first time in front of her and I only cuz I I was almost certain it was going to be a cute sound one and odorless he says he can tell before they happen whether they're odorless or not I can a pretty good sense of it special quality you think having kids makes you like more open to like farting I was always obsessed with poop and farts and all that I understand okay sorry I'll get off of it now I didn't mean to do all that I just wanted to clarify that I would not fart at work so you're safe to work with me if you ever want to moving on okay so you had a stroke the girlfriend I was just talking about that we would have fights at 7-Eleven she had a stroke too how old was she she was probably 38 and she was like kind of getting ready and she was getting more and more confused and it was there was like a long period of being confused before she even put together I think she called someone who who could recognize something was going on but oh God what a [ __ ] anxiety well what happened to me was like a little bit more obvious that there was something wrong because I was living in Queens I was in atoria I was going over to my friends apartment to like have lunch with them or something and I had barely gotten in the door talking about how i' had taken my younger sister to a Hillary Duff concert the night before uhuh that's sweet of you I remember talking about Hillary Duff and in mids sentence I like looked down and my right side of my body was paralyzed but I didn't realize that my brain was like telling me the signal of like that is not your arm it is not attached to you if you're paralyzed it's not like a numbing sensation I would imagine it to feel numb but it just it does anything your brain is just not Computing that that's your arm yeah so I was like whose arm is that and all of a sudden my arm looked very long and like alien like to me where I was just like what is that and I started like hitting myself I remember that and then like all of a sudden I kind of like blacked out for like a second and like the sound got like weird and then when I was like conscious again I couldn't speak because the blood clot was in my language Center in my left temporal lobe and so I had expressive aasia which is where I forgot language but I could understand it I just couldn't like like respond so then my friends thought I was doing a bit because I was always doing bits and they were like sure you're very funny like stop it I remember putting my hands to my throat and going like uh I'm making like a weird sound you're right this is the worst thing that can happen to a comedian cuz everyone's assuming as we just said we're interrupts so like oh here we go she going to [ __ ] interrupt this lunch party yeah that was like the most terrifying part is just people didn't know something was wrong with me and then they kept going should we call an ambulance and I was conscious like that's the weird thing about having a stroke is like you know it's happening you're watching it go down which is like the weird trippy part of it so like I knew what was happening but at the same time I was like I can't talk I don't know why and they were like should we call an ambulance and I was shaking my head yes and then the PA Medics got there and they're asking me all these questions and of course I can't answer any questions and they think I'm what drugs are you on what drugs are you% they thought I was on drugs and I was lying what did I take what did I take and how long before you regained your ability to talk I was saying certain words I would say the wrong words they would ask me what's the last thing you ate I knew the answer was yogurt but I couldn't say it so it would take me a long time and then like maybe half an hour later I'd be like yogurt oh my gosh and by that time they were like why do you want yogurt why are you saying y you know and so like at the time I was dating someone that was like 5 years older than me and it was like relatively new relationship and he came to the hospital to see me in I was 20 and the doctor was asking me how old I was and the only number I could remember to say was 16 and I kep going 16 and my boyfriend at the time was going like are you 16 I don't understand are you 16 and I was like 16 and he was like Aubrey like what is happening like you're you know like it was there were funny things that happened but yeah I was like so [ __ ] up there's nothing scarier than your brain being broken I know I'm scared every day cuz having a stroke is like being hit by like a bus there was no warning signs you know it wasn't like well I might get a stroke because of this happened out of nowhere in a stroke is just you have a clot somewhere in your body and it makes its way up your bloodstream right and then it ends up clogging a part of your brain I know why can't they test for that well I think people have clots all the time but they're they don't migrate normally right yeah I don't know they they cannot figure out and like I am still on the kind of investigative journey of trying to figure out what's wrong with me because I still last week went to a new Doctor Who did like some kind of weird Eastern test on me with these gel screen things and he told me like you have blockages in your ventricles in your heart that's why you couldn't get strokes and I'm like excuse me I'm going to go get like my heart tested now because this guy told me but it's like I've been through this for years where it's like I've been tested for everything I don't know like look at me I'm fine yeah but but can you ever regain just Fearless confidence of being alive right once that's happened you must always fear that it could happen unexpectedly right I think that there's a underlying sense of I have like unresolved trauma at all times which is like also something I've been working on recently but I think also it has made me maybe like in a unconscious way kind of feel well you know I could die at any moment so like let's just not sweat the small stuff sometimes I try to like that makes me sound a little more enlightened than I actually am [Music] stay tuned for more armchair expert if you [Music] dare so pre-stroke at 20 did it did it alter your personality like introducing that level of uncertainty about your own health so manzuk do you know Jason manukas so he has this crazy [ __ ] egg allergy right like lifethreatening egg allergy kissed a girl who drank a [ __ ] drink that had some egg in it right and I'm like what and you went to Europe like he went to Europe to study music for two years I'm like my I if I had that kind of allergy I feel like I'd be afraid to leave my house where I don't know if there's eggs and [ __ ] and he was like yeah yeah I'm like a hypochondriac as a result of it but it's legit yeah attractive that that quality God I love it so much it really is I'm just like God people that are just all wound up uhhuh yeah did you have like actors that you L guys like Monica's are Ben and Matt that that's are forever long time yeah did you have like guys when you were in high school that you wanted to grow up and marry no I was always like attracted to like the dad the dad okay okay the older guy like Mike sers like Bill Pullman and Casper oh wow that's kind of hot like that too I was like Devon saw no anyway let's get back to the egg thing no I really okay okay okay so there's so many layers to trauma right so it's the event itself and then just on top of it it it really shapes your worldview which is like oh good noted this is an option as I move through life for the rest of my life I think and that I think is the most profound aspect of it but again it I don't feel like I'm any more enlightened like I said earlier than anyone else but like I do think that it must inform me in some way but and it also I think just makes me have many more like issues that I have like just like anxiety you know I never like before that I never had like panic attacks and like after that I like legitimately had PTSD on medication like I'd be in the subway and feel something weird like a tingling sensation in my finger and I'd be like I'm dead oh I i' I've convinced myself I'm having a stroke at least a dozen times and I've never actually had one so if you added in that I really had had one even while you were describing it I was like oh is that what happened to me at the beach that time in Santa Barbara did I thought I got sung by a jellyfish but maybe it was a stroke no I thought I almost had a stroke on Jay Leno I think the first or second time I ever did Jay Leno I'm pretty sure I had a mini stroke like during the interview yes I got really confused MH and like I think people thought I was kidding where sure I feel like you need a bracelet and a button where you can go like this shit's for real nothing funny bracelet I forget to do this but like I do sometimes have to do a thing where I'm like and just so everyone knows like in the hair makeup trailer like I have a stroke history if I'm acting confused or something take me to the hospital it'd be like if you had seizures if you had epilepsy you'd like need to tell people ahead of time and like you know doctors are basically like since I was 20 they were like you have to be really careful about dehydrating oh okay like you cannot be dehydrated and like you have to take really good care of yourself you have to treat your body like an old person and like my reaction to like any rules and stuff like that is just doesn't go down well right so like that's a constant thing for me where I'm like you're like rebelling against your own health 100% I'm like well [ __ ] it if you had to say how often you'll think about it is it is it once a week once a day once an hour once a month maybe once a week I don't think about it every day anymore I used to but I don't yeah but that one was the the most severe situation you had but then you had one a couple years ago as well yeah I had a mini stroke when I was on Parks and I was like and that happened on set I was like in rehearsal uhhuh and I was holding my sides and I looked down and I couldn't read the sides and I got really confused and then panicky and then it was like am I having a pan panic attack or stroke I don't know and then I went to the hospital and I had like a mini Tia which is like a tiny little stroke but it was in a vein in the back of my neck so it wasn't arterial but it was like a tiny little one uhhuh no idea why but also it's crazy because if you hadn't had that stroke history they probably wouldn't have even checked they would have just said you had a panic attack yes like that's what's CU I always feel like stuff's happening but then it's just panic attack like maybe it is but maybe it's not I don't know right but the annoying thing about like strokes and like that stuff is like they can't do anything about it that was going to be my anecdote to that thought which is it doesn't even matter cuz you can't prepare for it think your way out of it that's true but at least you know you're right about the feelings in your body and you can do prevent it you know like technically like I should be like on baby aspirin every day I'm like maybe I'm not so good about that and maybe I should be right I'd like to see you on that baby let's get you on that bab I don't know sometimes I don't want to yeah that's right girl just want to see what happens yeah okay so one thing I was curious about because you kind of just alluded to it which is you you started by playing that high schooler the character you played on Parks and wreck did you come in with it or is it something you and Sh develop together did he go like oh I want the person to be this way and then like how did that from what I remember and Mike sure could tell the story differently but from what I remember he kind of like Loosely pitched me the P the premise of the pilot again it hadn't been written yet he knew what Amy's character was he knew where it was taking place and he said something along lines of like and we think she's going to have like an assistant that's going to be a dsy assistant or whatever and at the time I had just come off of like doing [ __ ] for like college credit and all that stuff and I pitched to him like well maybe it should be like an intern or someone that's actually really smart and really good at their job but doesn't give a [ __ ] about anything that that is happening and hates everyone and doesn't care but just has to do it for college credit I remember having that conversation and then I just remember Greg Daniels coming in and like all of a sudden we started talking about like the meaning of life and that's what I remember is like Daniels and I were like talking about like well what does make you happy and I was like I don't know like we we just got into like a whole other conversation and then Mike was just like sitting at the desk like watching the two of us and then that was it and then someone called me and they were like so you're in this show you didn't even have to audition no they wrote the original characters was named Aubrey I have the pilot script where the character's name is Aubrey and then when everything started to go in production they changed it to April and then because I was an unknown actor the network did make me go in and go on tape but I essentially was auditioning to play myself right because it was written for me so it was a very easy audition it didn't although that could almost be more nerve-wracking to me cuz I'm like oh geez I have this watch me go lose this when when Parks ended cuz I feel I was on Parenthood for 6 years virtually the exact same time you were on parks for 6 years and when it ended I kind of thought well probably never be on a show like that's this lovely to go to this many nice people that I am so happy to say the words on like I I had a real awareness probably as good as it's going to get what was your thought when that ended well I feel like one of the reasons why that show was such a great experience was because for some reason I think we're all always so aware of how good we had it like just because we had such a good time he just had a blast so everyone was so funny like that's the thing I was so [ __ ] spoiled now I'm like every job I get I'm like where's the funny person because it was just anywhere you looked you're [ __ ] laugh you know what I mean and so I was one of the best cast of all time for so we just were so spoiled but like like Amy and Nick especially we're so we're such good leaders and we're such good like Mommy and daddies that it would always remind us like Offerman I think is wise Beyond his years in so many ways but like you know it was my first show it was all I knew so like I didn't know and like after a couple Seasons like of course like I'd start complaining about stupid [ __ ] or whatever and you'd be like you should remember that this is the best it's ever going to be and I'd be like shut up you know but then I would be like all right fine you're right it was like we work kids that had the best parenting yeah for me like the challenge there was always just like it's so easy on television to just go on autopilot you know and like I think that that was also the other thing about it I was so happy to play that character and let it evolve but the minute we would go on hiatus I was like I got to I have to do like another character I have to do a movie I have to like freak out right were you afraid that that was the only thing you were ever going to get hired to play course like not in a like way that I'm not grateful for I'm so grateful sure for this opportunity but yes I was like this isn't all I can do because that show was the first thing that AED before people but also people and Scott Pilgrim it was like they were all in the same zone of like sarcastic like female comedian whatever at that time but like for me it was more like funny people I'm not saying this like officially in any way but like I knew that the character I was playing was based off of Janine Garo like I just knew and Janine G was the first standup comedian I ever saw live I saw it when I was a teenager in Allen I was obsessed her still am I love her but I was doing a thing I wasn't just like going like here I am this is like I'm just so weird or whatever like it was purposeful but isn't the ego the trickiest thing in the world though because I have had all those same thoughts obsessions overarching like fear that I'm not going to navigate it right or set myself up for the next thing correctly all the things right I'm now at a vantage point where I'm like who gives a [ __ ] but man I was like you know just riddled with fear that I'd be doing it wrong or well now I got to do something dramatic I got to do it really quick because I've done four comedies in a row and if I don't do and I'll never get to do it like all that pressure to be doing it perfectly well what's the end game it's like when you really think about it you're like what am I gunning for here like okay maybe there was a time at which it was like you know am I going to have some like breakout thing where it's like all a sudden I'm on the cover of Vogue magazine I guess that's the thing that is in the back of Minds as like actors or something but like I'm with you at a certain point you're just like like what is the [ __ ] goal here and then when I really think about the people that I really respect and love it's always the people that are flying under the radar and doing whatever the [ __ ] they want to do and doing their own [ __ ] well I I think it's very much human nature to go like oh get employed great oh okay so you just you can't not go well what's next part of it's eego part of it's just like you're supposed to be making forward Pro but it's hard not to get in that trap 100% I hosted the independent Spirit Awards this year and I had so many moments like in the days leading up to that show where I was like what the [ __ ] am I doing this for why did I do this why am I putting myself through this by the way I had a blast and I loved it so much but it was so stressful and the moments before going on stage and it's like and we're live and nine eight seven I literally was like had an out of- Body Experience where I was like Aubrey you need to relax you need to stop putting yourself through this like you're going to die but then I realized like man I just love to torture myself just we're all going to die so you end up on Legion though yeah I'd say Fargo is my favorite show beginning to end those three seasons Noah Holly is clearly some kind of mad genius well I went in and met with him in the casting director and I thought before the pilot was made before the pilot was made and I thought I was meeting there was a lead girl the Sid Barrett part and then the lead guy and I thought I was going to meet on the lead Girl part right and then after that initial meeting it was like I thought am I going an audition is that the next step then I met with him again he want to have coffee with me and then I met with him again and then at that coffee meeting he was like what do you think about the part of Lenny Busker which in the pilot was written as like a middle-aged man so of course I read the pilot thinking of that part like I'm what part are you talking about the middle-aged drug addict in the mental institution he's like yes and I'm like oh so that's the part you think I'd be good at okay kind of cool of him though right to to to be that flexible with something you created cuz generally like when I write stuff I get fixed on something yeah I've never switched a role like oh maybe that should be swaps genders yeah it's a very n thing to do yeah it's probably smart but yeah he was you know also at the time I had just gotten knee surgery so I was like on crutches I looked like probably like I drug drug problem cuz I did and so I looked insane probably yeah so then he pitched me that idea and I was like I don't know if I want to do that and then he was like but the character becomes the villain of the show theact The Character turns into this psychic mutant villain called The Shadow King and I was like sign me up now you've got my attention I was an hour late to that meeting also by the way I was an hour late to Noah to a Noah holic coffee because I had like gotten in an Uber and I was going to BR I was a mess and he still hired do you know how much he likes you that he if someone was an hour late to a meeting with me to talk about working together that'd be a pretty big red flag you believe that I was horrified i' never been later to a meeting in my life and it was like this is not the one I should be late to I'm pretty sure of that now I'm embarrassed to say I haven't watched the show but people [ __ ] love Legion but I was like Supernatural I'm a little nervous about there's a superhero aspect yeah but that's really not I mean it's in the background so if you like like drugs I [ __ ] love drugs you're going to love it oh great it's a trip man you know it's a real experience it's not linear it's like a psychological kind of trip right you know and like Noah at the originally when we talked about it was always like it's a three season show it's not the kind of show that was ever intended to like go on and on and on it's got a beginning a middle and an end right and man does it end oh really a big spectacular oh yeah oh wow wow how do you feel about drugs do you like drugs yes you do oh good I love them you know I had to quit but I yeah but I boy did I enjoy him yeah have you read Michael pollen's book yeah yeah well not really like the whole thing I haven't read any of it but I heard him on Tim Ferris podcast and I feel like I know what it's about and I did a tremendous amount of mushrooms in my day oh yeah I'm really into those aren't they fantastic I've been trying to convince Monica to do it you would actually the micro do SC yeah you might help her because I think you have some level of anxiety right yeah and you're comfortable with it right yeah I think like I wasn't for a long time I was always scared of things like that but I do think if you create an environment where you know and you do it at a comfort level that you're at for me it's like once you feel what it feels like you're like ow the problem for me is I feel what it feels like and I'm like I wanted more more more all all more so that's my journey we seem then anything I'm enjoying in life anything refuse to let it end yeah how about drinking how how are you with drinking yeah I can't um you don't drink I don't not right now okay not by Total Choice okay great more by ultimatum okay great great so Jeff who you've been with for what eight years now um yeah yeah you guys have done two movies together three three he's done three movies I've been all of his movies but Josh I was a very small partner life after breth was his first movie then Joshy then little hours so I've found when talking to people who are couples and do the same job it's generally one or the other like Kristen and I love to work together in fact we get along better when we're working together than in any other situation wow how was it for you guys I would say not quite that exper but you keep doing it so must be yeah no no you know our Dynamic was different on every movie like life after birath was different because it was his first movie and there was a script you know with actual dialogue and the last two movies he did there was no script you know really yes both those both of those movies were fully improvised wow um of course he had written like very elaborate like treatment and stuff but like most people don't know that that they there was no script so it's just a different working kind of dynamic than it's inherently more collaborative yes he has this kind of like Alman kind of approach where it's like he wants to create an environment that is spontaneous just by Nature because no one really does know what they're going to say but also he'll kind of tell you what to say sure and it has to have been influenced a bit by the fact that he and David O Russell work together yes because I went and saw Bradley while he was shooting Silver linion Playbook o what was that like oh my God first let me say that David is one of my very favorite directors of all time I worship him okay I'm on set for 40 minutes watching him direct and I'm like I personally couldn't be in one of these movies as much as I love give me an example what he does so you're Robert dairo and you're acting and you have lines he's like ah no no sneeze no no no say no no Get Up Stand Up St like you're rolling he's behind the monitors and he's just screaming non-stop now stand up now walk across the room now grab that book grab a book grab a book and it's like it's so in your grill which I don't do well when people are in my grill but he's he's committed to that thing and there's no better performances than David O Russell movies like there's just not a bad performance so it's like there's so clearly a Justified method to it and I respect the hell out of it but my own insecurities would have a very hard time in that environment do you have a preferred method of being talked to I love being directed like yes but I'm sick like I don't it's like I get myself into situations that are kind of like you know kind of tor abusive and I'm kind of like yeah like hurt me you know like I have that like tendency where I'm just like I'll I'll do anything I just I'll prove to you I'll just do yeah so I'm all over the place okay I just want to be pushed around shed up against the wall sure sure shamed humiliated humiliated embarrassed it's the only time I feel alive when I'm humiliated you should join like one of these SNM Clips we just learned about it it's so fascinating yeah there's like whole communities where everyone's sort of on board what we didn't know is that the dominatrix the Dom in the relationship is actually following a script they're actually the submissive one weirdly because the submissive one makes all the rules I I know about yeah we did not it was so fascinating I spent some time with a dominatrix who crucifies wealthy businessmen in her garage and it's the same Dynamic where the guy that's paying to be crucified is usually you know some oil tycoon or whatever and like they're in charge of the scenario but so it's like the Dom is following their kind of rules you know so it is an interesting BDSM I think bdsmm do you care about money what does that mean I grew up without money I'm very obsessed with money and I got to have a nest EG so I feel safe and all no I have to remind myself to like buy new clothes okay that's I think that's the healthy approach it could be but you know it's there's a fine line but money doesn't make you horny No in fact success scares me you know that like rejection and failure feels more kind of comfortable do you know that you and Adam have this kind of in common P who's Adam oh P yeah yes yeah he's got my number he's one of my favorite people we've talked to here and I just was so fascinated with his like perverse I know Euphoria with bombing I know he's sick I feel the same way yes I want to see you guys like publicly humiliate yourself in some capacity yeah no we will We Will We Will we've talked about many versions of that um so Legion when does that come out June 24th June 24th okay I think June 24th so Child's Play the original Chucky remake comes out what when June 21st June 21 June's a very very for me my birthday month right you're going to can do it 35 you're going to turn 35 be5 yeah it's exciting um well listen I was not blowing smoke up your ass I'd love seeing you on talk shows I think you're so funny on Parks and we're going to consume Legion yeah we are okay I'm really grateful and excited that you came in and talked to us it just feel like the independent Spirit awards were like you didn't want to come but on your way home you like that wasn't terrible yeah and then I think like why what's my purpose and what is all the point of all this I just give and I give and I give and I get nothing in return right and I like it that way good well Aubrey Plaza thank you so much for coming and I look forward to talking to you again and now my favorite part of the show The fact check with my soulmate Monica padman should we talk about it your show premiered last night well yes it did well premiered four nights ago oops we need a term for our fake timeline like real time fake time okay ftrt yeah or broadcast time or what got really confusing was wobby W's birthday which in real life was yesterday but in airtime was 5 days ago and when we recorded it was 3 days in the future yeah oo we're really playing with time in a beautiful way it's almost like Inception I love Inception yeah the way they're bouncing back and forth between the future the past and the prey yeah also I just want to say we're in a hotel room in Birmingham Michigan yeah we're on vacation this is the scene of Justin Long's abduction this is where he was stay no in this room in your room I could feel some kinky Vibes yeah this is where he limped back to this is a nice area well he didn't start here he started elsewhere well like he went out to a bar well I can't even remember I don't know if he even said where the bar was but I'm guessing more towards Ferndale Royal Oak where it's a little more lively okay yeah more colorful yes exactly and not in a race way no okay okay okay so we're here in the Great Lake State yeah Monica this is your first time to Michigan it was light out when you landed yesterday yeah it was it was raining though it was oh when your seasonal effectiven I had a little bit of my sad but I didn't because we were on vacation well also wobby wob do you get this like when it's rainy and it's warm out to me that's a 10 of like Euphoria of and Nostalgia cuz it's only when it rains in California it's freezing yeah that's true but in the midwest or I don't know probably Lots in the yeah it rains yet it's still warm out summer rains are good oh summer rain makes me feel good it's actually Summer Breeze yeah I know actually knew that one you did yeah I did seals and crofs is the original writer yeah but eisy brothers did a whatever you call it um a redo cover a cover yeah and I like redo yeah they did a redo and it's so funky and delicious ooh I kind of want to open up the blinds okay yeah yeah I can do that I have plenty of cable here oh I agree so you can get a nice little I love look at downtown Birmingham now this is the ritzy area of Michigan do you know this I could tell I mean it's fancy over here well we're right on the border of Bloomfield Hills which you've heard me talk about before that's where all the rich rich people rich this where you would live if you lived here the old old money in Detroit originally was gross point because it's it borders Detroit it's almost worth a drive down there okay the most Stark transition from City to Crazy Beautiful suburbs it it's insane uh one corner there are burnt out buildings and then the next corner there's like 13,000 ft 100y old Mansions it's the most dark transition I've ever seen in the country wow mhm it it is like a mere 100 feet between the lowest income and the highest income o yeah it could be the cover of a broken ladder wow my favorite book about income God you know these names so well I really don't know Keith pay so listen yesterday I was at New York airport for six and one half hours waiting on my delayed flight I know rough and so I listened to Dr Alex and it really brightened my day she was so wonderful so wonderful yeah I know loved her me too I'll likely marri her I would love to okay because she was explaining her tantric approach to sexuality it sounded nice it did and also scary when she talked about all that staring into one another's eyes I was like that's intense yeah actually I just had this Revelation the other day I was in a meeting with somebody and I realized I'm very bad at looking at people's face oh really yeah which I didn't think was a problem of mine but I was having to tell myself just look at her oh right right right so really quick Monica took some general meetings around town with people it's the most potentially awkward hour of small chat and so you had a little apprehension about going but they turned out well yeah they turned out well and one was at the peacock Network oh okay NBC yeah and I was waiting and there's all these posters up oh friends yes one of them was friends and I feel like I'm at this point a little bit Jaded by everything like I'm on that lot constantly that's where they shoot the good place so I'm there a lot well on your 100th time driving into a place although I don't want to hijack your story but I will say my favorite thing about working at Parenthood for six years was I actually every time I drove through the gates Universal in my I was like Hollywood yeah it just felt so historically was like I drive to work at a studio lot every day I I I really never lost the gratitude for that's so nice I wonder if the reason it's faded out a little bit for me is cuz I'm not going to your trailer to be a star of a show 100% yeah that be it's still very it's so cool anyway I was sitting I was waiting there there was all these posters of all these NBC shows and there was a friends one and I did have a moment of oh my God this is so so cool it is was Courtney Cox roughly your age when she got friends probably maybe oh my God you could still be on friends that's what I said in my meeting you did yeah I said I still want I still want that still the goal uh-huh yeah who are we talking about today Aubrey Plaza oh Aubrey pla so you were explaining to her misophonia mhm and then she said misila oh that's that thing I love on 60 Minutes right but no one really knew what it was okay and you don't love it because it is a type of cancer okay okay well I don't love it I just these I collect these names from 60 Minutes commercials cuz they're all for old people right Minun [ __ ] pneumonia whatever the hell that one is nun n there's like a specific pneumonia Nal cockal pneumonia oh that sounds they're always selling some product Rel the numac Minon okay it's actually mesothelioma a type of cancer that develops from a thin layer of tissue that covers many of the internal organs known as the mesothelium oh the most common area affected is the lining of the lungs and chest wall less commonly the lining of the abdomen the sack surrounding the heart or the sack surrounding the testes okay that's just just the sack they didn't need to say the testes they could have just said or the sack well maybe they wanted to say the testies yeah perhaps no there's a sack around the heart they had to they had to say yes I have a friend who has extreme inflammation of that sack yeah so they're either going to have to cut that sack and remove it oh which they're trying to avoid cuz they have to break open his chest so at any rate yes I know someone with a inflamed sack around the heart yikes not testicle sack see this is why you have to differentiate you can't just say sack well no if he had just said sack I'd go oh wow your scrotum is inflamed but there's multiple sacks there are but in my opinion the OS the original sack is the scrotum that's such a male point oh listen if you heard a guy go ah my [ __ ] sack itches where do you where are you going to immediately you're going to his ball bag clearly if they can feel it sack is just a colloquial term oh yeah I think Oh you mean it's not MediCal although you just read testicle sack okay the sack surrounding the test so not even the scrotum correct yeah there's a layer in between the scrotum and the test testm I wish we called it testm oh okay yeah Testa we can call it that testa and test okay there's so many medical issues it's crazy like Aubrey's stroke yeah I mean just when you started explaining that the sack around the lungs could be cancerous I was like oh that's what's going on with my lungs that's why I cough nonstop and clear my remember when you thought you were not very high on the hypochondria scale well I think you're the exact same as me you do yeah all right I think we're both eights I would I conc to the fact that I'm probably not the best person to evaluate how high I am on the Spectrum but I will just say I have a chronic lung condition that I've had absolutely where I've airlifted and I had inhalers so you know it is consistent in lifelong yeah that's absolutely true and things are happening when I have issues I'm not just waking up and saying I am going to have a heart attack today but but don't don't get angry at me okay but you peed the bed once so if I had coughed once and I told you that I had misoa you'd be like come on guy cough for a few years and then tell me if you peed the bed every night since uh February then I'd start being like yeah you have a condition first of all coughing is not the same as is involuntarily peeing when you're 31 I'd argue it's almost identical it's it's an ex it's expressing some foreign material some refuse some flatsome and jets coughing is normal well look they're both involuntary yeah but I I coughed five minutes ago and I don't have any problems with L miso I don't think I do I feel I feel pretty confident about my lungs I'm just telling you coughing is normal for for people who have no issues yes but but coughing every day most of the day your whole life is abnormal I'm not saying you're not hearing me I'm not saying that your thing is fine I'm saying you can't equate things that happen normally like sneezing and coughing to a a random event that does not happen hold on do you not think nocturnal p is common not for me not for you but for America I don't think it's common for adults to do that I don't it's not like normal nocturnal P yes nocturnal p is not normal it's not normal and there were other things associated with it what if that you went to the doctor sure I had a stroke okay well hold on what if you went to the doctor and he said he came in with your chart and he had done all your lab work and everything and he said uh okay Miss padman I have diagnosed that the nocturnal P was acute and not a chronic nocturnal p and he just kept saying nocturnal P would you get I guess horny is the the word um no okay no I don't think I would no oh sorry not to jump too far back in the timeline but um we did get several comments on the Instagram feed # Dophin asparagus okay I think they just wanted to be fun and funny I appreciate that uhuh I shouldn't say that look maybe it's true yeah my mouth is shedding oh I'd feel bad for you but do you see the [ __ ] sty in my eye I mean my li My Face is falling off I don't see it actually okay it's huge it's right here it's driving me bonkers listen I was in New York for 4 days doing every talk show they'd let me on hosting the Today Show and all the while Skin's just molting a sty in my eye yeah nocturnal P it was a real beating I understand I'm sorry I'm just complaining you know what life's great I know and I just want you to know something okay I want you to hear something okay just because you have some stuff happening and you do I'm not taking that away it doesn't mean you shouldn't feel bad for my life ing you're absolutely right you're right that was narcissistic and self-centered okay I just wanted to call it out I heard your lip peeled in my mind I was like I'd kill for a little lip peel right now versus full dermis reject us but listen that was it was was not sympathetic or caring I'm really sorry your lips peeling I don't really care it's just happening currently so I can feel it right I think it might be my toothpaste oh a whitening toothpaste you're one of the only people I know that probably wouldn't benefit from a whitening toothpaste your teeth are so white thank you yeah if they get any whiter they might be translucent o I kind of like that that'd be gross if you smiled and all we saw is the tongue in your tongue resting in the back of your mouth in your uula banging around back there but it's chicken or the egg you know it's like maybe they're white because of my toothpaste yeah true we don't know oh also fat clarification Okay ym magazine was not young Miss oh it was young and modern that was pointed out to me on social media got it okay cool okay so first of all you said that Aubrey and I are similar and that we're both brats mhm and that is not factual oh okay she's she's not I'm not I can't speak for her I don't know what her life is like I'm only talking about your childhood household you're a brat yeah I am a brat there that I can admit to but not in other areas of life do you think so well not like your childhood home no okay so but what other ways am I a brat I'd like to know so I could work on it I just think a a sign for me that you truly love me and Mom is that you feel comfortable being a brat sometimes to us like when I need an example are you sure it's not just me matching your brattin or her brattin no like there's been a few times you've I don't want to say it would be too strong to say you stormed out of the house after Katan but you've definitely like made a real quick departure sure I have done that but where it kind of resembled you going to your room a little bit and I did get suspicious you had your ear to the window on the back side of the house okay yes or no yeah oh okay but I don't do that just cuz I lost no I don't that's that would be Brady if I lost the game and was like H I'm upset about this and then I stormed off right I storm out because you've done something horrible to me mhm yeah yeah and I guess how are we defining brat I just think sticking around and airing your complaint talking it out would be one approach and then storming off would be another approach I would just label storming off is is kind of the defining characteristic of brattin isn't it okay also some times talking to you in that state is not an option right make you more upset yeah or we're in a fight so what are we going to do just keep fighting and fighting there's no point I might as well leave and then we'll discuss it tomorrow that's probably a great strategy I guess I should say it next time I'm leaving now and we can finish this conversation tomorrow uh maybe I'll start that okay if it happens again which it will it will it it will it might happen on this trip yeah okay so 4 clubs she said people project an agricultural motive on it uhuh often like that's where people's brains go when they hear 4 that's where your brain went absolutely it's still going there despite what she said oh really yeah okay so the reason that is is because the organization is administered by the National Institute of food and agriculture of the United States Department of Agriculture it's a pretty big check in the except yes and no because she's right it's a Youth Organization whose mission is engaging youth to reach their fullest potential while advancing the field of Youth Development on a farm no oh it doesn't say on a farm no its name is in reference to the occurrence of the initial letter H4 times in the organization's original motto head heart hands and health so it is all-encompassing they just happen to be the on that's how you measure a horse's height in hands so that hands May mean Mor's height okay so one element one element is but sounds like there's some stereotypes happening and she doesn't like it yeah you know there are certain stereotypes I feel bad about and then this one I just don't feel that bad about that if you're in 4 and people are mistakenly confusing you with an agricultural organization yeah boohoo little bit okay all right I don't want to minimize anyone's plight that's true but I also agree it's not a big deal okay okay like we imagine we were in 4 and I'm like a these [ __ ] everyone thinks we're [ __ ] over here plucking chickens [ __ ] planting seed yeah [ __ ] people want to feel like that I mean it's a victimhood well I'm just coming to this real time and I've never thought about this this is a new thought oh my God we should have a sound effect we should everyone recognizes the power of story that our brains are so hardwired for story because it's how we passed on cult culture and information long before writing oral tradition oral tradition and so Joseph Campbell there's all these people who have studied story and the power of myth right so because our brains innately work in the shape of story if there is an adversary which is these people confusing them with agriculturist or horticulturist it's how your brain works okay so now there's an adversary I'm the hero of my story you know there's Odds Against Me obstacles now I have something to pass on like it has to almost end up in the Box in shape of a story for you to even repeat it you just go like I'm in 4 and everyone totally understands what 4 is that's not a story right the story is I'm in 4 and these evil people are confusing us agriculturist yes and so now now there's a story I think that's a good theory I think that's a very nice new ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding new Theory what's more impressive my scientific break break through about snapping your fingers or this fingers should I unveil it or should I try to patent it first I don't think you can patent that so you can Discovery okay so I was trying to teach my six-year-old how to snap her fingers and she was doing it yet it was not making a noise she like Daddy why isn't it working and I'm like and I'm staring at it thinking why isn't it working because her fingertips are clicking yeah they're doing the right thing so I start doing it over and over again I really start monitoring what's going on and what I discover which I think is a really huge advancement for science is the sound is coming from your middle finger hitting the palm of your hand it's not coming from the friction between the thumb and middle finger and the way you can test this is put some tissue y or a thin layer of fabric sure on the palm of your hand snap your fingers and it will no longer make the noise or I can even put my finger in between there and it stops making the noise and I unveiled this Discovery at the Hansen's house and there was about 12 of us y everyone was equally excited as I was when I made the discovery yes everyone was pretty amazed and then we got really excited to ask Laura Moses who knows most things she's very very smart she's smart and she does lots of crosswords so she's learned and I'll say unlike me she doesn't go way out on a limb like I'll take a stab at something I have no business taking a stab she's pretty reserved in her knowledge yeah she's not a blow hard like me so we got really excited to stump her get Laur out here we'll ask her how the noise is being made and she sits on we go Laura what's making the noise when you snap your fingers and she goes um I think your finger hitting your palm we're like oh [ __ ] you everyone else was so impressed I know I was so proud of her I was so happy you were yeah yeah I was I'm sorry I'm sorry I got happy about that that's okay you get really happy when I'm and I I understand I do understand it is my job well to get happy about it well cuz I like facts I like to have facts to check so I guess that's a lie I do get happy when I lose or I'm wrong not when you okay not when you lose at life that's a horrible thing for me but if you lose at a game every once in a while it's real fun it's not real fun but I get it by the way and I admitted quickly the reason we were excited to make Laura be wrong is that she's right so often and so I recognized that it would be really fun because I always think I'm right it's it's extra fun to see me hoisted by my own patard yeah I think it's just not healthy for someone to be right or win every time what do you think Einstein's frequency of being wrong was just in real life so we were just listening to Sam Harris podcast there's a great episode with organizational psychologist organizational psychologist professor at Wharton School his name is Adam and I can't remember his last name and he was talking about basically prolific Geniuses in history yes Edison in particular yeah and and also Mozart he was talking about creative people and he was saying it wasn't that they were particularly genius it was that they created so so much that they yeah they succeeded through quantity not quality that it's not like they had four ideas in their life one was the light bulb one was AC electricity and the other it's like no he had about 20,000 terrible ideas and that yeah that was really encouraging so was just like be prolific it's inspiring yeah it doesn't require you to be a mad genius exactly so Einstein I'm sure was the exact same you probably [ __ ] the beg quite often I'm sure he did that was Adam Grant episode 158 understanding humans in the wild oh yeah really great episode and you and I had the exact same reaction to it well two things one we were both like God we miss listening to this podcast we've been so busy we haven't been able to listen to it it inspires so much thought I know it's really fun and gives us so much to talk about and then you and I also had the same thought which is at the beginning he describes being friends with a celebrity and everyone around the celebrity says that he's a genius and the person actually believes it and I became very convinced he's talking about me yeah he he yeah he was saying there's a celebrity he knows who's basically surrounded by Yes Men God just the just human narcissism because you thought that he was talking about you and I also was like I wonder if he's talking about Dax but no cuz that's not right and then that would mean he'd be calling me a yes man you make a you find way every makes it about themselves God we're the worst are the worse oh man e um yeah I'm still 50% convinced he was talking about me I don't think so I I've thought about emailing him just no no no you don't need to do that okay I'm going to do it soon we're done with do it don't do it it'd be a great excuse just to say hi to him well and maybe he'll tell me who the person is if it isn't me and that'd be juicy gossip for us I am curious yeah River Dance oh right so she did which she called River dance but actually River Dance was performed for the first time in 1994 Eurovision song contest it was updated Irish dance it was like classic Irish dance but they like Made It Funky oo regular Irish dance which is what she did and she did those competitions and stuff we were like where does that come from why are they so rigid so turns out when it was all starting local venues were small and dances were often demonstrated on tabletops or tops of barrels so so they had to keep their arms at their side rigid and lack of lateral movement they had to just be like up and down okay they were restricted mhm by their dance floor okay well that makes sense yeah okay she said when she interned at SNL that was in 2004 okay 2004 2005 season she thought that was Tina fe's last season as head Rider but actually it was the penultimate 2005 2006 you know I hate when people say penultimate you do why because it sounds so pretentious to me just say second to last I like using the correct word when it's sufficient when it eliminates many other words but penultimate oh same amount of syllables actually yeah yeah penultimate second to last maybe it's one more I don't know second to last no same I don't know why it triggers me it's so weird cuz you have such a high vocabulary and you use it uhhuh that but then you just like pick certain words that are high I must have was probably originates from the the first time I heard it like in what context I I have to imagine I was watching golf which I never watch but I have a chip on my shoulder about golf in general you know it just feels so waspy and [ __ ] whatever I have so many friends who love golf so much as do my brother loves it I get it I I'm not right but I but I have a chip on my shoulder and just the [ __ ] um country club culture and exclusion all I just it's not for me and so I do believe the first time I ever heard someone say it in public was on the penultimate hole oh stairs needs a three to birdie and a and I was like G penultimate the penultimate lap and oh that's another reason so you know I love Moto GP motorcycle racing and all the commentators are British and they'll go coming into the penultimate lap and so I think because it's coming from a British person I also am triggered by like a class oh class didn't know British people triggered you well I'm it's a mix of I love it but then I also think it's too classy for me oh wow Upper Crust don't you think they represent like the ultimate and Upper Crust is it Upper Crust or Upper Crest probably Upper Crest in fact as you say it it makes so much more sense it has to be Upper Crust crust it is no I don't think yeah Upper Crust is the highest social class or group oh oh can you just Google Upper Crust and see what happens do you mean Upper Crust W well unlike you I'm not super happy you are wrong I'm I'm happy to be wrong wish you were right surprised I'm happy to be wrong happy to learn that must be like high on the hog exactly it must stem from like when you got breed back in the [ __ ] 1700s or something the Upper Crust was more expensive yeah probably because it's newer if if you're in France and you go and you're getting bread and it's all stacked up the one on top would be the freshest one that does make sense we solved it doesn't seem like that's I like I don't want to hear that I like our answer you're right that was that was it they're wrong I don't remember if I left this in last episode or last week but there was a word that I couldn't remember there was a new vocabulary word and I remembered it's rashio sination oo is that someone with rosacea no a nation of people with rosacea no it's it's like basically being rational oh say it one more time ratiocination logical and rational I'm reading under the banner of Heaven oh right do you love isn't it good yeah it's so good I feel like oh I'm learning I'm reading so much and then I'm still on page 18 it's taking me so dense with info yeah yeah but it's such a great book because you're both getting the history of Mormonism yeah Mormons would disagree that that's the right history I'll acknowledge that and then a murder mystery it's intertwined beautifully with a murder mystery and all this dense history on Joseph Smith I really like it me too I like it so much that you know when I finished reading I jumped in the car and drove to Colorado City Arizona to see where they live was that like look I don't mind offending people in Colorado City Arizona cuz you guys are polygamist and you're trading daughters and it's [ __ ] disgusting and uh it's not really about multiple wives I don't care about that it's definitely about pedophilia so yes it felt like time traveling to a bizarre 18th century East Coast Town all the women are wearing the like habits or whatever you call it like a nun would wear what you know they're wearing headgear and these dresses we got followed the whole time it was Christ and I yeah we we they followed us the whole time we were there and then we went to their little restaurant and down and actually ate in there and everyone there was like what the [ __ ] are these worldly people doing in here how was the food I was hoping it would be like when you're in Southern Michigan and you go to Amish country and everything's really good like the butter is really yeah but no it's really you know cuz probably have you gotten to the point in the book where it talks about they're getting more welfare dollars than any place in America know anti-government yes they're getting like 9 to one for every penny they put in or something astronomical like that I know and they say it's the Lord's way of giving them what they need manipulating the government yes but so all the food just tasted like government issued [ __ ] mixed together it wasn't like a super wholesome delicious thing wow they had a what would we would call a a magazine rack but it was just all different books of you know Revelations that have been revealed to different people yeah cuz you're not allowed to like read books or newspapers or have TV but what it say says about Mormonism the reason it spread so fast at the time it spread was it was really the first kind of judeo-christian religion that said you may receive Revelations from God that you could be entrusted with those Revelations so it was it was a very empowering religion for people so interesting okay you said a few times that you and Aubrey were interrupts like that's what it was called like where you oh disruptors yeah disrupt yes yeah yeah so you so you already know what what do I know that it's disruptors oh and I we were saying interruptor oh really yeah well that was silly of us well it's similar yeah yeah disruptors like Google yeah we're like Google I'm also an interruptor I'm the double distinction of being an interruptor and a disruptor oh it's just cuz you're so excited to talk it truly is I know yeah it's one of my worst qualities but I will say I do like the think it's coming from a good place I'm just so excited yeah I know you are get in ornly excited to chat okay so you said when you and Kristen would take walks you would walk ahead and then you'd fart and that and then you were like everyone liked it you liked it she liked it and you thought the person probably liked it I really did but again because I would like it I know that's why I have to fact check that we do not know if those people liked it and I can say that if that happened to me yeah I would not like it well hold on let's just be really clear first of all we do have info because the Hansen and Kristen were watching the reaction to the person walking uhhuh and it was always like oh my God like a weird smile now let's just be clear are you sure you wouldn't like to hear that sound I of course I don't want to smell a stranger's fart at all I know yeah but that's not even on the table here it's just the noise you don't you wouldn't want to hear the noise no oh no because I would feel so uncomfortable mhm and I don't like feeling like that even though you would have just passed the person so it's not like you'd hear their trumpet and then have to look at them in the face and feel awkward you're it's right as we pass and you hear that's not going to elicit a smile in you I mean let's work backwards I know for sure if an older man was walking by you and as you pass him you heard I know you'd smile or laugh well I would but I'd also feel UNC comfortable okay and now two things would be happening then it's like a school teacher in a very Traditional School teaching Garb and she's very prim and proper and as she walks by you here it's funny cuz that person's like they're supposed to be keeping it all together yeah and one just got out and that's silly and funny I mean it is it is were they in a group or by themsel I didn't pray specifically on individuals if I had one in the chamber and they were coming up on me and I thought the timing would work out nicely it would happen so sometimes it was more than one person sometimes it was a couple girls walking that's ideal because then they look at each other and really laugh that's what I was going to say if I was with friends and that happened I would like it I like it yeah if I was Chandler LeBlanc Aniston I would love anything would make me smile if I was walking down the street with them but no if I was with friends I would really like it but if I was by myself would not like it cuz I would have no one to laugh with like when you trip and fall by yourself and you like have to laugh but no one's around and it's uncom I just don't like that feeling yeah that is one of our ballmark differences I love feeling that exact way and you're embarrassed and you feel silly and I just want that feeling to be gone as quickly as possible I want to fall down feel silly and then go to get up and feel some pitter patter on the back of my head turn around see a guy in a panty whacking is wanging on my head that's like the ideal experience scenario all right we can make that happen okay wobby wobs got to go because he's about to set up for our live show in downtown Detroit at the fox I'm a little nervous about the show you are cuz you know in general I don't like performing in front of people I know I know you want to impress them yes I want to do a good job yeah and you will I'm feel a little stressed out about it and I have a sty in my and I'm and a molting but not it's not as bad as the lip peel you have and I I'm going to prioritize that I love you I love you