Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe Dedicated a Segment for Bickering on Their Podcast A Touch More

-We're back with Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe. You guys, I'm so happy to have you here. I'm so happy. You have your own podcast. This started on Instagram Live during the pandemic. -Yes. -And whose idea was it first to start recording you guys having conversations? -I think that might have been yours, yeah. -I was like, "They want to hear from us, right? I know what the people need in a global pandemic. These guys." -"People are really sad. I think I should go talk to them." -I think we should talk to them. -I don't want them to talk to me. I want them to listen to me talking. -With a lot of lemonade. -Yeah, yeah, lot of lemonade. -And how do you -- Was it natural right away? Are you learning about the best way to talk to one another when people are going to hear it later? -Yeah, we're actually -- I think we're better right now in the live setting. So it was IG Live, then turned into some live events. We did them at the Women's Final Four, All-Star game for WNBA, that kind of thing. And now that we're doing the podcast in studio where you can actually take your time, we're like, "How do you do this?" -Yeah. -It's very -- It's so much different. -It's funny, right? It goes back to what you were saying about attention. Like, if you can plan the special day, then you get in your head. But as athletes, you probably are, like, a lot looser when it's just about instinct in the moment. -Totally. Yeah, I find the, like, performance of the live, I was like, "Oh, this feels natural." I'm like doing jumping jacks before and like getting ready. And then we're in the studio and I'm like, "Well, what do we do now?" -What do you mean you can do it over? You can do it over? -She's like, "It's the next thing on the outline." I was like, "Oh, that's right. Got it. And moving on." Yeah, my segues are bad. -Oh, you're bad at segues? -Mine are decent, but I feel like I'm saying, "And here's a good segue." You're not supposed to do that. So I got to work on that. -We're learning. -Don't tell them what you're doing. -Yeah. We're learning. -It's like a basketball player who goes, "Dribble, dribble, dribble." You don't have to say it. -Yeah. -You guys are very open about your opinions on things and your relationship. You guys bicker. That's an actual segment. Bicker of the week. -Bicker of the week. -And do you find that that's healthy when you are done bickering? Do you feel like either of you has come to the other one's point of view? [ Laughter ] -I don't know about that. -Yeah. Is that the point? -No, I guess -- I mean, obviously your outlook on what bickering is is different than mine. -Yeah. We do a little bit of both, but it's kind of -- you know, there's some things you've been in a relationship with someone for a long time that, like, they're not going to change and it drives you nuts and, like, you just got to let it go and there's some stuff I need her to just let go. I'm not ever changing this thing so that -- But then, you know, some bickers happen. -Yeah. -Bickers happen. -Do you feel like you have -- because there's sometimes I'll say to my wife, like, "Why can't you just let stuff go?" And she's like, "Do you know how many things I've let go?" -Yeah. [ Laughter ] -She's like, "I literally have already let go nine things today. I'm sorry I had to mention the [bleep] 10th one." -Yes. That's it. -Gotcha. -Exactly. -So do you feel like you're -- Who's more forgiving? -Ohhh. -Me. -But I already forgave nine things. -Yeah. Maybe. -Yeah. Probably you. Yeah. -But you guys, so you also have -- you have people call in and "Are you a Megan or a Sue?" Explain this segment of the show. -It's just like the various ways in which we do things, like how early do you get to the airport? What's your packing style? What are you like getting dressed, going to dinner? Are you a reservations person? Just all these, like, little, kind of like, relationship idiosyncrasies. -I will say certainly, having heard your take on packing, I will say that you, Sue, are an Alexi, my wife, and I'm very much a you, Megan. I do not plan ahead for the entire trip when I pack. -It's tough when you get there. -I can't even understand it. -No, look -- Yeah. -It's so stressful. -Yeah. You'll be, like, showered, chilling in the robe, like, relaxed, because your outfit's already picked out, and I'm like, "Aaah! There's nothing in here!" The bag was 80 pounds. "There's nothing in here!" And you're, like, getting dressed. -Yeah. When my wife lets me pack, it's like three pairs of underwear and a wrench. -Yeah. [ Laughter ] -Figure it out. -Good. -All right, so I have one. So then basically, though, I can give you a thing and you'll tell me whose side you're on? If you're a Seth or an Alexi? Okay, this is a little unfair, because I feel like I'm picking one that's maybe making me look a little better. -Okay. -So that happen. -So when I watch TV in bed, I will put in ear pods. My wife will just watch on her iPhone full volume. So, like, I'm in bed, like, trying to do anything, listening to a show that I haven't watched and don't know what's going on. And it's real loud. Have I editorialized too much or is this -- -I think we get it. No, by all means. -Well, Sue has been rewatching "Game of Thrones" at night. -Can't recommend it enough. -You know what a [bleep] hellscape that is. Audio -- Audioly? Auditorily and visually. And I'm like -- -But what are you -- -She was trying to get into it. -I also haven't seen it. -Okay, gotcha. -But I'm kind of trying to get it into it. But then we're watching it at night and I'm like... -Yeah. -But then I'm kind of into it. -There's been a lot of conversation about, like, what kind of show you can watch at night. Like, it kind of can't be stressful, it can't be violent. -But then sometimes I'll be, like, falling asleep and then sex will come on. And I'm like, "What's going on over here?" And then I'm always like, "Is it gay?" -I'll be like -- -"It's not?" [ Laughter ] I'm over it. -Literally. -Literally. -I'm like, "It's 'Game of Thrones.'" -Yeah. -So "Game of Thrones," not only is it not gay sex, it's like brother-sister sex. -Yeah. -Yeah. -We found something worse than straight sex. [ Laughter ] -Wow. -You're like, "There's something worse?" Yeah. -Yeah. -All right. Here's another one. So wait I'm -- So you guys are -- -We didn't answer. -Wait, but what's your -- -Kind of in the middle. -In the middle? -Yeah. So Megan -- But Megan has, like, a hearing thing. -I'm sensitive to -- -She's got "sensitive hearing." -Okay. -I'm like, "What?" -What's that? -I feel like -- Can I say... -She has diagnosed herself. -...That I'm glad Sue did that. Because I would like to start doing that, too, because I feel like there's a lot of sensitivities in my house as well. [ Laughter ] -I'm like simultaneously a wrecking ball and also, like, very sensitive to light, very sensitive to things that are loud, very sensitive to certain things at certain times. -Yeah. -What can I do? -But then I'm like -- Yeah. -But it's all self-diagnosed. -You're like sensitive -- -She was lactose intolerant for the first year of our relationship. -And then she, like, got on a real milk kick? -Debunked. Debunked. -You're like, "I actually think this milk's pretty good." -Yeah. -I love this -- Here's one. All right. Well, the best is I really -- I'm very heavy footed and so, Alexi -- and again, people have mentioned it before. My wife is not the first one to make this observation. But then the best thing happened, because our third is a little girl, and she's like the light of my wife's life, and she has exactly the same feet as me. And, like, just this little girl clomping through, because then I'm like, "Yeah, covering fire, baby." -Whoo! Coming through. -So Alexi would say that I, when I go to the bathroom at night, we have one floorboard that creaks. And her argument is, it's crazy that I haven't learned which one it is. You're saying she would creak it every time? -That is 100% what Megan would do. -Every time. -Go out of your way to creak it or just forget every time where the creak is? -Literally forget every time. -I literally forget every time. -It's crazy. -Every time she would. -Yeah. -So let's say, you know, one of us will have early mornings, right? So when it's my early morning, let's say the alarm's going off at 5:30, I'll, like, tiptoe. I'll go in the closet. I'll use the flashlight on my phone. You know, I'm keeping it chill. This one doesn't wake up obviously. When it's her turn, when it's your wake up, go ahead. Give them a -- -Oh, everybody's up. -Give them a taste. -We're up. We're up. The door accidentally slammed. The light accidentally went on. -And your alarm's just really loud gay sex. [ Laughter ] -Yeah, basically. Exactly. I was like, "We're up, babe. We're up." -"Here we go!" -Whoo! Got a morning call. Yeah. No, you're like -- I don't even understand how quiet. You wake up at like 5:28 before the alarm. How does that -- you like know to -- -I'm working on that in therapy. -Yeah. Sometimes I wake up and I'm like... -Let yourself go to 5:30, Sue. You deserve it. -Yeah. -You have a lot of accomplishment. You deserve going till the alarm. What a joy it is to talk to you both. The podcast is a joy to listen to you both, but having you here in person is just the best. Thank you so much for being here. -Thank you. -Thank you. -Megan Rapinoe, Sue Bird, new episodes of "A Touch More" available Wednesdays wherever you get your podcasts. We'll be right back with more "Late Night."

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