# 465 Childhood Trouble, Is Nikki In A Cult? & Lake Living... It Up! | The Nikki Glaser Podcast

the Nikki Glazer podcast nckaz here's Nikki hello here I am welcome to the show it's Nikki Glazer podcast coming at you um from St Louis Missouri I'm here in studio with my sister who is kind enough to join us last minute I was just like hello just saw you at the parents house yeah thanks for inviting me yeah and then I was driving home and I was like do you do the podcast and you were like sure and I was like yes hell yeah um so I'm GL so glad you're here thanks for being here uh Brian frangie is here what up Bry that's right your sister from another mister that's what we call you and then uh NOA is here as well hi Noah hey guys um everyone have a good weekend you know what I went to Trader Joe's and I had an interesting interaction with the cashier where she said I said how are you and she said great and I said you're great oh and she said yeah I think so and I was like wow that's amazing and she said how are you how's your weekend going and I said honestly it's it's just like fine like I'm doing chores you know it's like um I feel like I'm on my deathbed I'm not going to like remember this weekend yeah yeah what are those what answer and and she was like oh that's that's a good point that's a good point I said what about you and she said yeah I don't think I'll remember this weekend either and then I said okay so it's not great so it's not so great well I mean so yeah I mean I just uh it's just interesting that you asked me that because I feel like I I've gone off down like a spiral of oh right like you've already been through this of like what your weekend was and it was one of the ones that won't be remembered but I I think no I think you're so right I just the more I look back on you know pictures that'll pop up on my photo feed of like this was a year ago or whatever or just memories in general like big things can happen and I still don't really remember a lot of them and it's just even big things like even big stuff I can kind of be like oh what like I don't remember the details of it or you know oh there was one we ran into a girl Lauren and I were at dinner with our parents and the kids uh like a week ago or so oh yeah and this girl um that we went to school with that Lauren was friends with and um when when we were little she was there with her kids at this same playground slpl to eat and Lauren said to me later on that this girl said to you she said oh I saw your sister and um she was like yeah I remember your sister smeared [ __ ] all over my face I was like literal [ __ ] on your face yeah when they were when we were young she said the mall there was your birthday part like a birthday party and um and I smeared [ __ ] all over your face but if you hear that must have been like a bath and body works like it totally was not [ __ ] actual [ __ ] definitely wasn't but I had to clarify I was like that is just so unar did you say [ __ ] did was it I said I lit I said was it literal [ __ ] I asked her and she said no it was like something else okay and so that girl remembered that because that probably really embarrassed something I did really embarrassed her whereas from my point of view like I don't remember that like if I were to really embarrass someone or like devastate someone's life in that way that they remember it for that long I I it would have it would have landed on me I would still remember it but to me it was probably just we were smearing icing on each other's faces or something and I just probably went a little too hard cuz I could be a little too aggressive sometimes just because I would get excited but I don't think I was ever like I want to make this girl feel bad and I probably did something that was embarrassing to her at the time and it to her that was a moment she'll never forget like we all those moments of like where we tripped and fell or we someone smeared [ __ ] on our face and to them it was like totally nothing cuz I don't even remember this party I don't remember her I don't remember anything about this but I do know that one time I snapped a girl swimsuit and she remember that girl that was our friends with Kelsey and Jamie and Lindsay and she went to the water park with us one day and the cousin yes and J and Jamie and Kelsey's parents drove us so our parents weren't there and we were playing in the back seat and she had I guess the week before slid down a tree like fell off a tree or something and got really scraped up on her back and I like didn't remember that when we were all snapping each other's swimsuits and I snapped hers and it like broke open her scabs and she started bleeding everywhere and I got in so much trouble it was probably she probably doesn't even remember it but to me I got in trouble so it's like I I even tell that story being like am I going to getp shame around yeah like I can't I get a little bit I'm like already like closing up on myself like a little like a crustacean um even talking about it but to but no one else in the car even remembers that incident and to me it was like the biggest thing so memory is all just subjective how did your parents like not punish but how do they reprimand you like when you say that you got in trouble how did you get in trouble I got in trouble from their parents like like like her aunt who was my neighbor's Mom I just remember her being like why would you do that you know like that kind of thing of just not getting in trouble but just getting yelled at and I just didn't get yelled at that much unless it was by my mom and by my mom I just sorry it just didn't matter to me when my mom yelled at me she yelled no offense mom you're definitely listening but she would yell a lot so it just one ear out the other if you do it too much your kids don't care or respect you because I never I never got was scared of mom were you I think one time when we scared she could be pretty cutting with her words I was scared when she when we spilled the nail polish on the carpet cuz I knew that was like that that wasn't able to clean up we were so scared we were terrified like I don't even we wer scared of physical har like we were just messing around painting our nails and we used to share a bedroom as a kid and I put the nail polish on top of your head and she swiped it away and it went all over the comforter the carpet was on disne comforters forever I still remember the the it was like a magenta right yeah it was it was over this like bookcase my mom had just painted like a really creative like she'd spent all this time painting this like cool bookcase or not bookcase but like dress or drawer or was it the bunk bed that she painted yeah bunk beds yeah it was all over the bunk beds too it was all over and I mean devastating and I remember that was the only time I was very scared of mom but otherwise we weren't like punished as kids I don't I I feel like we were good kids I was really good I just didn't and that's why Mom and Dad can't understand why my kids are so badly behav right right well why were we good I don't know compared to your kids and your kids aren't like bad but they don't listen they they don't listen they have their moments where they're just like do whatever they want yeah and they literally yeah they and then yeah Mom and Dad were just trying to school me the other a couple days like you got what are you going to do you have to get these kids in line I was like he's a 2-year-old like he's not I don't know it's frustrating yeah I mean they they yeah they have I don't think their way worked that well we all turned out fine whatever they're going to be fine but I don't know what to do like I wouldn't know what to do either because you kind of do the opposite of what your parents do and then they walk all over you my mom said you got to spank them you just got to do it and I was like Mom I didn't century and having your kids be frightened of you and Abus spanking doesn't work it either makes now you're emotionally spanked them exact yeah well but even thatting everyone no one likes you when you act like well mom and dad used to spank us but I didn't respect it because it wasn't hard enough it didn't really hurt so I wasn't scared of it I would just kind of be like embarrassed for them that's why I would say didn't hurt every time they yeah you would go didn't hurt didn't hurt and dad would always make fun of that and it's like but they didn't hurt us so it was like so I honestly was kind of like you're [ __ ] like put some wow put some shoulder into it like I was like it should hurt more than this and this doesn't it always seemed like why would why would you do that to your kids I guess when I back when I was acting out I just wanted attention I just wanted someone to care about what was going on with me like I'm like cuz I was never bad to be bad and that is all my children's behavior is attention seeking that's all it is yeah but so what do you do how are you feeling like do you just like start to care about the stuff that they're showing you and stuff because you already do I can't picture a mom who cares more than you like what more do they want they just want constant attention I don't know I mean I we try we try timeouts They Don't Really Work I try to be just the calm parent talk things through and just take away like if they're throwing a ball let's take away the ball you know just take away that the weapon yeah whatever they're using that they they're using in properly or just I even do try to like if you do this you don't get dessert tonight if you keep doing this then consequences yeah were no TV the punished did it work for you guys to be good what did your parents do well this reminds me of a scene from the greatest movie of all time Goodwill Hunting where Matt Damon gets abused as a child and he says my dad used to come home drunk and he would take out a switch a belt and a wrench and he'd say pick one and then Matt Damon would and then Robin Williams was like I'd pick the switch with that one son and then Matt D was like I picked the wrench every time and Robin was like why and Matt D was like because [ __ ] him that's why oh I've almost referenced every single Goodwill Hunting scene on this podcast I think you have except uh how about app such well I'll never reference famous scene yeah um yeah what did you did you guys get uh beat with things hands things hands but like and also yeah like with my family it was just kind of like terrorizing us making us scared which theion of that as an adult is like terrible yeah not good like they would threaten stuff that you like if it if it did if you did that this is what would happen it was just like a lot of yelling and you know just like loud noises and oh my God loud no Noah sent this video the other day of a little baby like a one and a half-year-old I'd say maybe one and it's playing on This Woman's lap probably it's Mom and it's like putting blocks inside a thing and it's just like you know pouring different things into things and then like a person comes in the room and just starts arguing with the woman like kind of just like talking like this and I'm not doing like that like kind of just that tone not even directed the child right was it yeah no it they were sitting across the table so the child was sitting at one side of the table just playing with blocks like Nikki said and then um I believe it was the mom uh comes in and then someone comes in and they start having a confrontation in front of the child yes and the child baby shuts down just completely shuts down doesn't want to play with the blocks anymore even when they're done arguing the baby's just kind of like staring into just space so sad and it's not even directed at the baby like the baby's just witnessing this like loud abrasive talk and I was just like this explains so much that's some trauma right there you know cuz you like you think about your own childhood and you're like well I didn't get beat and I didn't get I didn't watch my dad beat my mom and my dad didn't beat me and my parents didn't like it wasn't there was no sexual abuse there was no physical abuse but there was lots of yelling around my there still is there still we just heard it this morning the grand kids get a get an earful for sure yeah it's just hard not to fall into that because even I do this morning like I went over there to drop off my dog while I took a pilates class like near their house and I just like fell into talking like that little Zippy like that like Naggy uh raised voice which I can sometimes bring into the house like it cannot be going on and then I bring it in because it's just like what I know and it's not like their fault it's what they grew up with too a for show oh because more so than we did yeah exactly so it's like it's just almost um but like what do they expect I expect everyone to just be perfect people and perfect parents constantly I mean I feel like Society has been functioning pretty well with a bunch of like angry and uh it's getting pretty bad Brian I don't know if you looked around or done a show that highlights uh haven't you just recently showrun a show that highlights the polarization of our country and how angry some people are and out of tou well certainly but I feel like it's unavoidable like people aren't perfect and I feel like babies the quicker they get used to imperfect people the better yeah yeah there's a there's definitely an argument for like what are they going to do when they first get yelled at by an adult if every time they ever have any kind of conflict it's like now how does that make you feel well we don't like to do that like they're gonna [ __ ] you know this is I'm not the I'm the millionth person to say this in probably a week on a podcast but it's like they they definitely I remember the first time you get yelled at by like a different person or it's it's jarring but you survive it and you like your kids are now going to Catholic school and you were kind of excited Lauren because you were like oh they're going to get some like some real discipline just from like from not from their parents just I think different expectations than um have you noticed a shift even just like with one week of school is there any uh they come home singing religious songs oh that's nice does Jesus love them yes he does for the Bible tells them so oh that's good yeah they my little sister went to Cath like school and she didn't become a big Catholic no no one does most most people don't special came out oh Chad Daniels his special he was like I don't think there's a bigger contingency of people than a the group of people that used to be Catholic and are like oh [ __ ] no now like that is the biggest group of people that there is in this country the weird thing is is that the PE like the parents that send their kids to the school none of them are religious at all and they they kind of have that same mentality like but there's just not a lot of choices where we live in the city and to get yeah it's a private school and everyone lives around in the same neighborhood like my kids could walk to school which is so great and I wish I would have learned a little bit of religion I was thinking about it I'm like it you be a good person there's some there's lesson learning the Golden Rule and you know asop has got that covered too we could just stick to his fabl and there's no doctrine that you need to follow and you're going to burn they don't teach when do they learn about hell when do kids learn about hell I think now immediately really you got to instill that into their their is going to have his first communion this year and he's not even baptized so we have to get all three of our kids baptized what can't you just lie and say he was or do you have to have paperwork well then you'll go to hell get by lightning go straight to hell if you don't believe in any of it to Li about your child's baptism that's like I just we have we have to do it he's going to be like the only kid that doesn't let's take him to the Y today dunk him in the water in the shallow end and have an old man say some Mumble some [ __ ] over his head yeah and have his mom and dad next to him kind of crying or whatever they do at what do people do it's there's nothing Lamer than seeing people getting baptized in like millionaires pools like full grown adults you got to do it in a lake it's so sad old I mean I guess it's like a great experience to like give your life over to something I I do feel that way when I became a Swifty I feel like it was like this is it's exciting to embark on a new thing that's going to be you that you're going to like throw yourself into fully love completely and when you just like it really is like a religion except W you are like a Jesus person and I was actually listening to Sam Harris today and he was talking about cults and he was talking about how you know the cult of trump and stuff and how like if you disagree with him at all you're kicked out like you either love everything he does or you're kicked out and I was like that [ __ ] sucks you should be able to disagree with anyone that you politically align with and still be able to like them and vote for them and and have their constituents like you as well but with Trump it's like if you got to be on board if you say anything bad about them you're out I was like that sounds a lot like being a Swifty cuz you're not allowed to ever ever within the Swifty Community say have any criticism tailor and I obviously have criticism Taylor because I have criticism of [ __ ] everyone there is and you should because no one's infallible but I will not ever speak of it because I because also come after you and it's not important because she does not have political sweat I mean she could but she does I don't need to voice my criticism of anything that she does because it's only putting negativity out there I'm not I'm doing it because I'm scared because of the cult of Swifty but I'm also doing it because it's not it's I'm tired of people commenting on things negatively when they don't really when even though that's something I enjoy doing so much and I will miss um as I get more and more famous you just can't do it instead you just ask your parents their opinions about things and then you force that's my new thing is I have my sister on and I go what do you think about and show that we watch together and I know she feels the same way I do and then she says it and there's nothing on the line for me so look for more of that in the podcast because I can't really share my own opinion anymore um actually I absolutely will but um I like Bobby altof do you know who that is uhuh you definitely know who that is she does like interviews and she kind of like talks like this and she's just like she's really pretty and she's like a young girl and she just like interviews like different rappers what was that she doesn't emote in her interview yeah she's a podcast so explain your shoes and she does it in bed you know she like so she's just captivating to watch her name is Bobby alof I'll send you her stuff she's you will be obsessed but people all they write under her [ __ ] is like you've ruined your face you filled up your face too much cuz she got a little bit I don't even know if she got filler she got Botox and her face looks better and people are just so [ __ ] jealous cuz they can't afford to do what she does so they have to be like you ruined your face or guys like want to [ __ ] her and they're frustrated that they can't you ruined your face and yesterday she was just like you're such a loser if you write stuff like that look at your life what are you doing with your life I I don't like if you want to do what I do cuz you're jealous clearly go do it the internet's free to put stuff out on Do Your Own Thing leave me alone and I'm like and Chris was listening to it being kind of like they're not all losers it doesn't take that much to write you ruined your face like they could have really full lives and I was like a good point good point in between picking up their kids from after school and volleyball team they're like oh yeah you're ruined your was like yeah you're right they could be like trading on the stock floor and just being like you ruined your F like they could have really they could be earning lots of money and feeling great about themselves but what I do think is that you're a sad person if you write anonymously a a mean thing to put online that isn't like a reviewing art and like if you're just commenting on someone's face to be mean I've wanted to do it before and you know where you do it you do it in your DMs with your best friend you send you send Bobby El's face you go she ruined her face to your friend and by the way Bobby alof did not ruin her face she looks [ __ ] better than ever and I'm obsessed with her and anyone who says she ruined her face you're just jealous because her face looks good and you wish you could look yours could look like that but you're scared to go to the doctor and get stuff in your face because you're a [ __ ] just ask your sister what she thinks of Bobby alta's face oh yeah I would I should yeah show me a pick okay I'll show you a pick next up when we get back we're back um Bobby took down the post where she was calling people out so I I don't want to it's that's the clip where you can really see her face and um but she was like you got another one I can I mean I'll send it yeah yeah I there was a show I was going to ask you about but now everyone will know I don't like that show if I ask you about it even though I've asked all my friends about the show to be like am I the only one who's not into it cuz it feels like it God now I got to know what it is and and I I'm not the only one I think everyone's masquerading and acting like like the show huh the crown no no I can't say I let me just say if you are a true listener I will drop hints throughout the course of these episodes to okay and I won't I'll figure it out like not today because it's too obvious but I really like people I really like and people who admire uh made make this show and also show is like it's not bad and if I made this show i' be really upset at someone who is nitpicking it the way I'm nitpicking it is it a comedy and to be honest with you I'm that's a great question Brian one of maybe the best questions that you could possibly ask definitely point you to what it is I'm not sure if it is or not now no I I'm not even like it's it's well into a uh let's say possibly fourth season and I'm not even through the second season you're just kid it away for no I didn't no I didn't I'm texting you the answer I'm texting I did a fake number just now um and I'm well I'm not even halfway through what is out there for people to consume so I'm not we never talked and I've been on the phone like on my phone watching it here's my problem I need two times the speed thanks I need 1.5 and you can't do that on a TV you can only do it on apps and I'm sorry to people who make TV and and movies things are changing I I just consume faster and I want things to happen faster but I will there are a lot of things I like about the show and I should have started with that but now I I your phone okay let me check my phone and see if you got it right you go Nikki no no no no oh no no damn I was so sure Ted lasso is what Brian guessed and I will say I love Ted lasso and I I actually didn't finish the third season because I was savoring it too much and now I wait because I just it was like a treat that I would let myself have every now and again and um and then I don't think I ever finished it because I just treated it out too much and then by the time I went to go back I was like I got to watch more episodes like there's so much TV I have to watch but well it's coming back it's going to have a fourth season what wait I kind of heard that yeah well yes it's like the major players are coming back the major players yeah oh so it'll be Roy it'll be um they're still they're still feeling out key ke key oh key you do a good impersonation of key do I key are used to for watching enough [ __ ] do good key but she's so good is it so good God Spot on the only one that they were like confirmed not coming back was uh Jamie tart oh we can do without him yeah he's he's great but like the show can go on without would Ted be back I got to assume he's like the EP how could he not be well I was just think I was honestly thinking when I heard that they were just going to take like everyone who like they were going to take all the Supporting Cast and make make a new show and probably bring on as many people as possible but it would be called something different but it would still be in that world and maybe they'd buy the rights to it and pay off whoever I could see key having a spin-off I would I would love that spin-off and did she end I don't even know if she ended up with Roy or Jamie they were both coming at her I think the third season that's the last I don't think I finished the third season yeah what the [ __ ] is wrong with us cuz it was good it's really good I'm not gonna be able to accept key in that role after seeing her in Fargo oh God she was so good in Fargo I hope she was Emmy for that I voted so hard for her for that I loved her because at first I was like I don't know if I can believe key in this role and then she was just really incredible oh my God that was so good is was this your first year voting in the emms or yeah yeah guess what I didn't get to vote for myself oh why not Chris and I both were voting and we're like where's my category and we were like what the [ __ ] and um and so I wrote my publicist I'm like I can't vote for myself voting's closing in a couple days and she was like I'm looking into this this is crazy and she had just gotten a text from uh I think Alex Edelman who also said I can't vote for myself and I go well that's weird because I can vote for Alex Edelman or no no I couldn't vote for Alex so I was like I could vote for the Tom Brady roast and I was in that so I'm like if it's about being in the thing why can you vote for it if you they make it so if you're nominated you can't vote for yourself which I think is so dumb because I remember in third grade I was running for class president and I remember asking Mrs picket can I vote for myself and she said do you think the president of the United States does not vote for himself yeah and I go oh my God you're right why shouldn't I be able to vote for myself vot for himself why couldn't you can't and neither could Chris because he's a producer on it they like really got in there and so you can't vote yeah so I can't vote on I can't vote for you either because I'm not asked to vote at all oh really I don't even know how I got in I just I want about the process what is it what happens you have to agree that you've seen at least one of the things in each category that you vote on so it'll be like outstanding dramatic series and then it'll take you to a screen that goes do you have you they'll give you all the nominees have you seen at least one of these and then you say yes and you lie and then you vote for your friend no that's not what I did I had I had to say I had to say no to some things cuz I hadn't seen it but I'd seen one thing in most huh so you just one day you wake up and you get a random em I just got an email I mean I'm sure there was a a process behind it that I could have looked into and been like oh you know maybe me presenting at the creative arts zies last year got me in I don't I don't really know but I got to vote this year or maybe me being nominated this year got me in I will say I'm devastated that I wasn't nominated for best um reality show host the CW just doesn't they don't um they'll be gone soon what nominate elect people they don't put forth their people why because it's $900 a submission I was like I would have paid it I literally would have I could have been nominated for I could have been nominated twice it would have been awesome and I should have been I'd worked hard on that show and it I just feel like it would have happened because but $900 they were just like and it you know it's a a but if they do me they have to do everyone within the CW and that's thousands and thousands of dollars that they probably don't have just pick like hey we're just picking why couldn't they have asked me like hey we can't afford to do do you want to submit give us $900 I would have done it in a heartbeat yeah yeah and so Jeff propes will win again um or whoever but um yeah that's coming swimming in EM he's drowning in them yeah um I'm trying to think of the a TV so Chris vot also weekend yeah Chris voted this weekend how many times has he voted is this his first time too I think no he's been nominated he has an Emmy so I don't know oh for what I think wait a minute he has an Emmy for I think storytellers that he did with like Adele I wow I could be wrong I didn't know this yeah Emy Award winner Chris Cony yeah it's it's I don't even know where it is I think it's at Curran's um his brother's cabin because they were using it he gave it to curan to for like a [ __ ] magnet like just to have in his apartment to have like a girls come over and be like it's a real Emmy you know like just for fun cuz he was like I'm not using this and so it was it current forever and I think it's probably like in storage somewhere I don't even know but um hopefully he'll he'll have another one that we can we'll have two we could put on the mantle here um what are you guys are you and Matt watching anything good no not really actually what are the kids watching anything good just kidding that's all we watch I I swear like we don't even get to watch TV that sucks I know what do you do with your free time just go on your phone um oh I just watched the um what's the Scott Scott Peterson oh yeah well we disc that okay we discuss that I watch he's inocent right oh completely 100% why is anyone debating it isn't it hilarious his family is just in such denial it's sad it's so sad so sad that is it sucks so much that he didn't just divorce her like I know he's such a [ __ ] [ __ ] have to kill her yeah and his dumb mouth never his mouth is the only thing that moves on his stupid face everyone's like Nikki there's new Scott Peterson interviews on Amazon I'm like I have no interest in watching that marionette talk and his his he just is sad on the top and just mumbles on the bottom he's awful to watch He's awful to look at he's such a lying miserable piece of [ __ ] I the the idea I just can't even I can't even believe that that he's thank God for Amber yeah I I had a gripe with it but I shared with on the podcast before I think they could have gotten a confession out of him if she would have just acted horny for what he did yeah can you imagine if she would have just been like Scott I know you did it and I just like I want to help you like not go to jail forever will you just tell me like where you put her body I'll go look for it like if she would have just been like it's so hot yes and he would have been like okay well I I dumped it here and like if she would have even slown shown the slightest bit of wetness over the fact that he killed his wife he would have been like I did it yeah I really think so he was so stupid but thank God for stupid I mean thank cuz he got caught but like um yeah I'm I'm really my mom watched worst roommate ever last night she goes she textt me worst roommate ever oh my God freaking out watch and I go I haven't seen it and she goes wait who Lauren must have recommended it is it good uh the first the first two episodes yeah really good okay yeah really good just each one is a different story that's the that's the way it is with Netflix stuff like the first two episodes you're like I get it all and then the third one well it's such gruesome and there's a lot of violence I mean it's there's murder involved there's you know but it's every story every episode is a different you know a different situation soad I should be on that show what was your roommate situation well in college I had yeah you had a really weird one though in New York oh god I've had a lot of terrible roommates now you bring it up but in college I lived with a a child molester oh my God I didn't know was a child molester how did this happen did he get busted yeah well I think I might have told this before but he uh he was a friend of of one of my other roommates and we had like a opening so he came in I didn't like know who this guy and um he was really weird the whole time he was this like scrawny mustachioed man which is like now that I'm thinking that's kind of fits the bill and he would be drunk all the time and he would do weird things like if my girlfriend at the time would go to the bathroom he'd like stand outside the bathroom and then like drunkenly knock on the door to be like are you in there are you naked in there like can you and have to go out and be like can you not bother my girlfriend while she's in the bathroom um so he was a weird guy the whole time and then one day while he was at class the police just came to the front door and they said um is this guy there um he's wanted for child molestation Jesus oh my God yeah and I said well no he's in class and they're like can you get him to come back and then me and my roommates plotted to get him to come back by calling him and saying that we were all going to Applebees and he had to come back right away because we were trying to get half-priced apps oh my God yeah and then he came back um this is the line I always say he likes half aged ass not half priced apps but okay he came back expecting spinach artichoke dip and instead he got the opposite he got arrested for child molestation oh my god um he he came back to the house and it was literally like the TV the cops hit around the corner like behind a bush and then he walked up to the front lawn and they ran out and tackled him whoa wait so were you working with the cops like sharing the like text or like his computer or something like that they would know yeah did they did you get details of how they caught him yeah well that's that's like even that's like really sad they they caught him because the kid uh who got old enough to start talking about it um good yeah uh that kid it was like um his cousin or something and it wasn't like it was like a um he probably was drunk and like he did some questionable things in in the guys of potty training let's just put it that way oh dear God yeah yeah um oh God this and uh then the kids started talking about it oh my God actually this is so horrible I don't even want to like talk about we don't have to get into it but weit what I want to know is were you guys like [ __ ] we got to find a new roommate was there like a part of you that was like [ __ ] because that is when yeah you got to cover his he's got to cover actually don't know what we did after it was pretty close to the end of semester so I think we were like I think we felt like we could handle it and also I just assume that he would continue paying his rent I actually don't know what happened after that in terms of rent that's a good question I don't remember but yeah he got taken away and cuffs so I never saw him ever again ever so you were in college during this time yes this was College and then my um the the guy who knew him went to his court case and was like following the court case and the guy never went to jail he was released on parole and then um several years later he was spotted in Indianapolis and he had become a goth so that's the end of his Arc I mean becoming a goth is I if if they if pedophiles have to run free I hope they become Goths because kids are not like drawn to Goths and and they and you wouldn't employ a goth at a place where kids are like being i instead of knocking on doors pedophiles just have to dress up like Goths that's your punishment you're never going to let your kid and you're one of those we'll hate you that is interesting like it would it would keep people it wouldn't make it would if you got like tattoo faed gothess mhm it would make it so you wouldn't get employed anywhere that you could work with kids it would be like a permanent like keep kids away kind of thing yeah like Scarlet Letter all right that's interesting um this weekend tonal shift um I got to um go see that boy from Instagram Kellen uh perform era tour and it was so awesome it was oh yeah well you didn't just get to go see him you performed with him you were like his backup dancer yeah which I didn't know was going to be part of it so I was in Battle Creek Michigan for Friday and Saturday shout out to every bestie who came it was a soldout shows it was so fun to be at um it's so fun to just do two nights in a row and not have to travel and like we were like at this casino with me and Ari and Sean and uh Anya and Emily my social media girl shout out Emily I know you're listening and um and then Emily and I stayed for Sunday and went drove two hours to go see Kellen and how this all came about which I didn't really remember how I I even found out about this little boy was that the the there's a girl named Melissa who's neighbors with Kellen and she's friends with his dad and he lives with you know he spends part time with his dad and part time with his mom but his dad's house used to be next to Alyssa and Alyssa became friends with the dad and everyone and she loves this little boy and it's like it's like her aunt his aunt you know and Alyssa and Paul her husband Paul saw me on Jimmy Kimmel talking to Cale about my love of Taylor Swift Paul was like Alyssa you got to see this cuz Alyssa is a big Swifty and Alysa decided to tag me in the video of Kellen that she first put up and so that's how I saw it and was like oh my God this kid's amazing and then he kind of goes viral within the Swifty community and um and then yeah and then I I told this the other day but she was like hey you're going to be in Michigan I wish we could come see you but you know Kellen has a show that night and I was like what do you mean he has a show that night and she goes oh well he's doing the ays con he's like doing a show in his backyard on Saturday and I said man I would go see it but I have a show and she goes like well he'll move it to Sunday if you want and I was like okay and so Sunday I just stuck around extended the trip um everyone on the tour went home except me and Emily and Emily and I drove got driven by the casino 2 hours to this Lake this house on a lake which is a be oh my God this guy's neighborhood is so cute he a little boy he's nine he just turned nine Kellen and his sister Emory who is 13 I think and she was like a stage manager and the dad is like the sweet guy I love I think named Chad I want to maybe didn't hear that correctly but I remember it was Chad and then Alyssa and Paul and then his grandmother was also there it was just us seven and we got there and we hung out they had a fruit tray and a veggie tray for me they had like skinny pop and all like they had my riter it was so sweet and then I gave Kellen some presents that I got at Target I bought him like a um a Taylor Swift uh torture poet's outfit like this like white dress with a black choker and black gloves and he loved it and he was like I already have an outfit planed for that and I was like it's totally fine you don't have to wear you don't have to like any of this I made it very clear I never liked I don't like giving gifts to kids because I always felt like as a kid I had to act like I liked everything and I always felt kind of embarrassed for the adult that was giving me stuff when I got stuff that I hated and so I even do it with your kids Lauren whenever I give gifts I'm like you it is so okay if you don't like this I don't care you can always be honest with me like it's not going to hurt my feelings like don't pretend you like something like just never be I don't want kids to ever have to be fake to appease adults um unless you spank them and then follow the rules but um so he was really sweet he loved it he was so cute and then the show we were just like okay let's like mosy onto the backyard and we sat down and he played Lady Gaga intro music which is like the song that plays before eras there was a countdown and then he comes out and does all every single era almost I think he skipped no he didn't skip midnights he it started getting late because it was taking a while and his outfit changes and he had to hydrate because it was really hot out it was like in the 90s and he's wearing these like elaborate costumes and he's giving it his all and dancing and everything so we they cut the short set list a little bit short and which that was what I was really impressed by cuz I was like I thought oh my God he's planned this thing for weeks like he has every song memorized he has all the movements memorized if we have to cut this short like we're going to have a tantrum on our hands cuz I've witnessed that but he was just like his dad's like hey buddy you know I think we're going to have to cut down some of reputation he goes okay let's um we'll do delicate we'll skip well we can skip that some uh look what I made you do like he was just so amenable to the skips and he had like a he was totally fine with everything he would like and then I was projecting a lot of myself onto it like oh my God like if I had put this all together as a kid and I messed up at all I would be like stop stop it we have to start over like if everything didn't go right but he was there was one part it's so cute I don't know if we'll put it in the Vlog cuz it's like I don't want to ever embarrass him I just only want to celebrate the great things he did but at one point he like sneezed in the middle of like don't blame me Lord May and he goes like and just I six inches of snot just drips out of his nose and he's still singing with it like swinging and then he just wipes it and wipes it on his like skirt dress thing and this keeps the show going he was such a professional he nailed all the notes he had all the looks and he he had practiced certain dance mov so he would kind of like look he kept raising his hand when he would need assistance and that just meant us like running up and and then he'd be like so you guys are just trying to break free during this and we were like we don't even know what that means like you just give us different dance moves he's like and then you guys twirl and then you're going to do this okay and I was like I don't know what that dance move is and he'd be like no actually it's it's it's more like this and he would just nail it and show it and I'm like this would me weeks to learn Kellen and he's telling us like on the Fly and me and Alyssa were like his backup dancers that he asked to like come in every so often he was just like so cool and sweet and like wanted us involved and it didn't have to be perfect it like taught me how kids can be just so magical and lovely and uh just me as a kid could never have done what he did CU I was too scared of what people thought I was too scared of not being perfect even now I'm like wow like I got to let go of some of my perfectionism because I was even trying like starting to project it like where I was like why don't we do that part again Kellen like you can really like you miss that but he would just keep going and just pick up where he left off and there was no like I'm so dumb why did I mess that up which I see in your kids they do that a lot of like I'm stupid and like so I was worried that it was going to happen but he was just like so easygoing go with the flow so sweet and his sister was 13 and so appreciative of like him and like helpful and doing the costume changes and the music cues cuz he would he would do all the music like the tour so it doesn't go exactly with the tracks in the song so it would be like you have to do the first verse and then you have to cut to the bridge like you can't like and so there was a lot of different like Cuts being made and his dad was like okay buddy you want to his dad was so worried about him hydrating because it seriously was so hot he was like okay so um you going to wear this dress for it or you going to wear this one like thank God for Dad's like kellen's Dad because kellen's spirit in with another like in a child that has a different kind of father or mother or like thank God for the fa family and the people around Kellen because he is a beautiful boy who is just so more himself than even I am after 40 Years of trying to be myself and he is just and so is his his his sister Emory um they're just such beautiful kids that are like so loved and like allowed to be themselves um in this just like just sweet supportive way that is just it's everything that's good with it made me like so proud to be an American a it was just like this like Michigan on the lake performing Boats were coming by like what is going on like me and Kellen are just singing All Too Well and people are coming by and paddle boards like what's happening and it was just so sweet and Emory was starting middle school today or sorry Monday and she was like I'm starting middle school and she kind of knew the gravity of that statement she was like well I'm starting Middle School tomorrow and I go okay and I'm like packing up my bag it's like the end of the night and I'm like um I'll tell you I'll tell her what I said after a we came back from break okay we're back so Em's like I'm going to middle school tomorrow and I'm like I don't I didn't even know like what I wanted to say but I just like had to say something to her because it's obviously like so scary and I go listen you're a smart girl I'm sure you've heard about how tough it can be she's like yeah and I'm like it is tough it's going to be tough kids are mean it sucks sometimes but please remember no matter what happen you're going to have the best time but you're also going to have some really bad times just as life but just please and she didn't ask for this by the way I'm just like listen to me I'm like holding her shoulders like you got to listen to me what's Adam Sandler in um what is it happy what's the Billy Madison where he like he he holds the kid's face and it's like going like that's what I'm doing to this girl like it's going to be hard I was like but none of it matters I promise you the thing that seems like it's going to devastate your life and follow you around for the rest of your life like something that maybe some kid latches on to and makes fun of you for and the whole school knows about it it means nothing I promise you no matter what none of it means anything and then I was like well that's just disparaging the whole experience that's just like invalid dating Middle School is just it means nothing you know cuz sometimes I tell Mom Mom will be worried about what she's wearing and I go no one's looking at you Mom it's not about like and I don't mean to say that to be mean to her but I'm just saying like ease up on yourself like no one's paying attention to this much detail of your shoes plus the socks and she goes that is so rude and I'm like no I'm not saying like no one sees you but she's taking it that way because you do feel less seen as an older woman but I just mean like face I think for the kids though it's hard to imagine in the future so much because they're living so presently I was thinking like would this have landed on me like obviously I'm trying to say what I wanted someone to say to me back then but I don't even know what I would have wanted to hear like if I don't know what she perceives me at does she even look at me as aspirational is she even like I hope I turn out like this girl like I'm putting all that on that like she's probably looks up to me she doesn't care I mean she was like will you move here like it was kind of cute she was like you should move here cuz I was like Chris and I should get a house up here it's beautiful God Michigan's gorgeous I was like I want to live here like why not like what is holding me in Lou family um you should have pulled her up to you and said like listen you have to know this about Middle School your friend Jen is a [ __ ] and she will betray you and that would have been I think more effective wisdom what do you think what it like what do you even say to these kids because I don't know that be sure of yourself like be confident like that's the biggest thing if you don't care what people think about you how do youart I know you can't I think it's just hard know like you are an amazing person you're a good person you have so much to offer me that I think that is good but that takes a lot longer than just like here's 20 seconds of me giving you a pitch like I was trying to think of the elevator pitch for like making it through middle school and to me it's about I just always thought things would follow me forever I really did like I just thought there was no way what trauma did you have in you know like people finding out I peed my wet my bed people finding out that I picked my nose in sixth grade and that girl saw it and she told everyone people finding out that my backpack is from Goodwill or like whatever the [ __ ] it was like or me wearing ugly shoes one day and one kid saying something and then everyone like kind of knowing that I have ugly shoes like literal [ __ ] like that would be like I'll never outgrow this and I don't know if anyone telling me that I would that it doesn't matter would have actually landed but what didn't help which I think is said a lot is that high school is the best years of your life or childhood like I wish I could go back to middle school was the best that [ __ ] with you because you go oh well then if this isn't good what's the point of any of it and then I'm I'm then you know I just I just want to prevent kids from ever hurting themselves because that is something that like I just feel like when you have such an underdeveloped brain and things seem so catastrophic and be that there are kids that do that and you hear stories of that it's like when I was in Middle School I didn't hear about kids doing that and I think if I would have it would have been like maybe a thing I would have been like maybe I'll try that so I just like I'm trying to like this girl is really strong and she did have a strong sense of self and I'm actually not worried about her but she's going to be okay because of the home that she lives in sounds like her parents are very encouraging and nonjudgmental the kids and I think that's rich I don't think that's what kids need but they're definitely fine I mean if she's got a cabin on a lake she's going to have plenty of friends it's not a cabin it's just a house but it that's what I liked about it like that's what I like about Michigan is that these people don't seem insanely Rich which I I I think I'm kind of disgusted by they just seem like they're doing great and yet the lake is nice like it's not like I feel like there's lake living I'm sorry to like when Chris talks about getting a lake house in Missouri I'm just like where people just like dump you know Red Bull into like they'll just like we fill it up with you know Red Bull because there's a drought like who cares they're like [ __ ] catfish and they're like coming all over different like I just feel like I don't know if Missouri doesn't really respect I just feel like lake living it's just like disturbing Wildlife plunging through this off-roading through these rocks and messing up all these like you don't realize when you're like off-roading through shallow creeks and driving through all this [ __ ] you're killing thousand of organisms literal thousands if not millions of species of animals because you're like I love nature disrupting their habitat yeah and being loud and Michigan just felt like people have like I'm sure there's that going on there too but I'm like I want to go to Michigan lakes where it seems even though Flint is notoriously dirty water like the water seems purer it doesn't seem like people are disrespecting nature I just am always like what if sorry to get political final thought if you love The if you love hunting and nature so much why do you want to vote for someone who doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of it if you love wildlife and buck hunting and being out and camping and off-roading and four-wheeling and all fishing which I think a lot of people enjoy why do you want to vote for someone who wants to ruin it all who doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of it why he doesn't believe in CL he doesn't believe in climbing change that's the difference they don't believe well that's actually a helpful thing that actually makes sense to me because if you love nature and you don't believe in climate change you think that it everything will be okay and I think that is that I just answer my own question they just think everything will be okay but just know that um if you enjoy Parks they they don't have any respect for those I will say the I've been to a great many national parks in our country and by far the most despicable Park I've been to because of the people was Hot Springs which is in Arkansas and it going there it was like there was like a motorcycle and loud car parade happening 247 down the main street of Hot Springs the people were disgusting and awful I could not bear to be there for longer than 5 minutes not everyone down there and everyone in Michigan is not like respectful and just like smelling the air and just only listening to like you know gongs chiming as they meditate by the lake like listen this is happens everywhere but there is we loudness in nature fireworks setting up fireworks around nature it's disgusting it really is something that we need to like look into and be like wow we need to wake up and not do fireworks anymore on Fourth of July because it makes animals abandon their babies they're freaked out they don't understand it we they get they don't know that you love America and that's why you're doing it like they they doesn't they're not like wow that's beautiful beavers aren't like look kids like it be they salute they and Trauma George Washington that's the only time you can get him to do that it's like there's nature is being totally destroyed but like you're right like I I I don't like going to Lauren just said Nal La house and I hope that you didn't think she said anything except that because when you were talking about when you were talking about Arkansas we we know some people from Arkansas and one time um they were we were kids and we were hanging out with these people that we our friends our family is friends with and like the kids were telling were they were just like teenagers like trying to be like kind of they were like pre-teens I but they were talking about they kept like we were nigal Laos and we were like what are you saying they're like we're going to say something nigal Lao and we were like we don't know what that is so we just kept calling them nigal ho because we didn't know we come to find out they were saying naked live hoes really fast so we just call them nigala ho now the the people that talking about like strippers going to see strippers they were 11 years old and these little boys were going n house and we were and we it still joke about it still 25 20 years later what the solution to fireworks is forthcoming and if you follow if you kept up with this current season of America's Got Talent which I oh drones that's right oh so you know about this drones are the future I have seen the drones it's a peaceful Firework and it's beautiful and you can get much better um visuals and shapes and words I think that people are going to say fireworks are lame drones are what's what's we saw that in Vegas remember we saw the drones in Vegas yeah yeah they I feel like they're already using them a lot but I can't wait for like it to be like embarrassing to use fireworks like I can't wait for that turn in culture where we realize oh my God this disrupts the environment and first of all dogs I think it's just education nobody is I mean people are slowly realizing yeah that it's affecting I that's not going to work making them slowly realize that it has negative effects on nature is not going to work it needs to be they're not that cool they're lame they're boring that's how you get them to St yeah well Chris sent me a bumper sticker of a a guy in his his car he saw it on Reddit and it said only gay cops pull me over or no only gay cops give me a ticket so it's it's it's only for like he gets pulled over and then that cop has to make a decision like the worst thing the cop I can imagine what like a the cop where this guy's from is like I'm not gay so like if he writes the ticket the guy he is saying he's gay based on the bumper sticker but he's also like can't give in the bumper sticker but like I think most cops would just go like fine I'll let him go oh my God metaphor for his life a report that in there's like this I saw this like you know Frontline episode type whatever Tik Tok where they were doing a news report about these these two black people in I think in the Deep South that have like a trump store that's like Pro Trump and they sell this thing called The White Privilege card mhm looks like an American Express card but it's like it's white and it just says white privilege card like I'm white since blah blah blah or whatever and the Reporter Goes who buys these and they go why people and then it goes into this whole thing of like people the people that were buying the car go yeah I give this and when they ask for my license I give them this and I get let out of tickets all the time yeah yeah I saw that too that was CNN segment I can't believe that would work so try it no I'm just kidding um I'm getting vanity license plate did I tell you guys this no I you told me um I'll talk about it on the um the the the pay wal episode because I don't want people KN what my license plate is unless you pay for it uh which we have coming up we're doing right after this we have a show for you tomorrow though don't worry if you don't pay extra you uh can and then you can get that special um unfiltered episode that we're doing if you want to become a big money Players Diamond M and plus no commercials which by the way I'm a big diamond diamond member so I don't listen to my own show but I listen to last cult Teresa and I am like for a while I was like I love that they have no ads how does this really popular podcast have no ads and I was like oh cuz I'm a diamond member and I'm zipping through no ads is amazing you guys so if you want to pay I think it's $5.99 a month $4.99 a month something like 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